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May 5, 2015 15:25:37   #
Canoe50d
 
I am laughing as I type this because I can't believe what I am learning. I travel to the art store and find matting pre cut at 16x20 with a photo size of 11x14. A size I consider very standard seeing as they are sold all the time. I find out now, that my Canon Pixma Pro-100 can't print 11x14 ?? what am I missing. ? I've called Canon twice and they don't seem to see the issue of art stores selling 11x14 matts for printers that can't print the same size. I have Picasa, Canon Photo print and Adobe Elements and none of them can adjust to print the size I wish to. I can pick the paper size (I have 13x19). The best I can prints is 11x17 and that cuts off several inches of my photos. Can anyone help me. ??? thanks

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May 5, 2015 15:30:10   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
If you can print up to 13x19, then certainly you can print 11x14.

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May 5, 2015 15:35:09   #
TexasDon Loc: Texas
 
Canoe50d wrote:
I am laughing as I type this because I can't believe what I am learning. I travel to the art store and find matting pre cut at 16x20 with a photo size of 11x14. A size I consider very standard seeing as they are sold all the time. I find out now, that my Canon Pixma Pro-100 can't print 11x14 ?? what am I missing. ? I've called Canon twice and they don't seem to see the issue of art stores selling 11x14 matts for printers that can't print the same size. I have Picasa, Canon Photo print and Adobe Elements and none of them can adjust to print the size I wish to. I can pick the paper size (I have 13x19). The best I can prints is 11x17 and that cuts off several inches of my photos. Can anyone help me. ??? thanks
I am laughing as I type this because I can't belie... (show quote)


You need to crop and enlarge your image to 11x14 inches with a pixel density of 240 pixels per inch (or more). If you can't, or don't want to, crop the image area, then you will need a custom-cut mat.

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May 5, 2015 15:36:49   #
BebuLamar
 
No you can't and the problem isn't with your printer but with your picture. Post the picture and we tell you why.

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May 5, 2015 15:39:49   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Your camera's aspect ratio is likely 3:2 or 4:3. Neither of these allows the full image to "fit" an 11x14. As mentioned, you'll need to crop.

The same thing happens with 5x7 and 8x10. Neither of those very common mat (and frame) sizes is the aspect of 3:2 or 4:3.

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May 5, 2015 15:55:23   #
Canoe50d
 
one would think Dman but no I cannot

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May 5, 2015 15:57:18   #
Canoe50d
 
Then I have to ask if I can't print 11x14 why would every craft store sell matts that require a 11x14 photo ??

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May 5, 2015 16:00:41   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Canoe50d wrote:
Then I have to ask if I can't print 11x14 why would every craft store sell matts that require a 11x14 photo ??


The million dollar question :) Like I said, same happens with 5x7 and 8x10.

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May 5, 2015 16:01:42   #
TexasDon Loc: Texas
 
Canoe50d wrote:
one would think Dman but no I cannot


Do you understand how to crop an image? An 11 x 14 image will fit on a 13 x19 piece of photo paper. Maybe someone can walk you through the steps if you provide a little more information and/or upload the image file.

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May 5, 2015 16:02:28   #
Canoe50d
 
I have no idea what the aspect is (how would I find out). I can choose paper size 8.5x11 and that fits fine in a 8x10 matt.
Linda From Maine wrote:
Your camera's aspect ratio is likely 3:2 or 4:3. Neither of these allows the full image to "fit" an 11x14. As mentioned, you'll need to crop.

The same thing happens with 5x7 and 8x10. Neither of those very common mat (and frame) sizes is the aspect of 3:2 or 4:3.

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May 5, 2015 16:17:15   #
Canoe50d
 
TexasDon wrote:
Do you understand how to crop an image? An 11 x 14 image will fit on a 13 x19 piece of photo paper. Maybe someone can walk you through the steps if you provide a little more information and/or upload the image file.


using Elements I tried to resize to 11.25x114.25 thinking the .25 would be enough to tape on the back of the matt. I changed the pixels to 240 as suggested. I put in the paper that I have 19x13 and pressed print. it printed 11x17 and now I have to cut off part of my photo and that it what I was trying to get away from. new question, when re-cropping, how do I know what the finished size will be ??



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May 5, 2015 16:37:58   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
Canoe50d wrote:
I have no idea what the aspect is


Well there's the problem! It has to do with one of these. :)



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May 5, 2015 16:41:50   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
Canoe50d wrote:
using Elements I tried to resize to 11.25x114.25 thinking the .25 would be enough to tape on the back of the matt. I changed the pixels to 240 as suggested. I put in the paper that I have 19x13 and pressed print. it printed 11x17 and now I have to cut off part of my photo and that it what I was trying to get away from. new question, when re-cropping, how do I know what the finished size will be ??


This is a standard 3x2 aspect ratio. Sizes such as 5x7, 8x10, and 11x14 are not 3x2. Thus, you simply cannot print that size unless you crop. They sell mats in those sizes because they expect people to crop.

In Photoshop, you can choose the marquee selection tool and constrain aspect ratio to 14w x 11h. Then you can simply draw a box, move that box around until you have the crop you want, and crop. Thus an 11x14 crop of your image would look like this:



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May 5, 2015 16:42:48   #
TexasDon Loc: Texas
 
Using the crop tool in Photoshop Elements you should be able to insert the desired dimensions as 11 inches and 14 inches. You will need to use the crop tool and not "resize image". The image area to be lost will be darkened on the screen with this tool. Re-sizing alone does not work because if you set the horizontal dimension to 14 inches, the other will just resize to keep the same aspect ratio as the original.

I can see why you would not want to crop out the sides of your image. Another option is to add image area to the top and/or bottom to get to the desired 11 x 14 aspect ratio. This may be beyond your current Photoshop (and Photoshop Elements) skill level.

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May 5, 2015 16:43:51   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Canoe50d wrote:
Then I have to ask if I can't print 11x14 why would every craft store sell matts that require a 11x14 photo ??


Once upon a time the standard sizes were 8x10 11x14 etc. based on common camera film ratios (sorta). And cameras had many different ratios on the film formats (35mm, 120, 645, 4x5, 5x7, 8x10 etc). So everyone framed so they could crop to the "standard" sizes.

Today the vast majority of cameras are some variation of the (nearly) 35mm format, based on 36mm x 24mm (full frame) or 3x2 ratio (call it 2x3 if you want) the various crop sensors are usually just a % reduction of the FF or very close. Thus the ratio no longer fits the "standard" sizes that most frame and mat makers are set up to do.

You have to frame and/or crop to get prints to fit the old standard frames. Simplist way is to use printer paper just larger than the size you want (13x19 to get 11x14) set the image ratio to the size you want the image and set the printer to center the image on the paper. Then trim or just mask the extra paper. (Some people set to print in the corner, then cut off the extra paper and trim it into multiple small pieces for doing small prints.)

I have had to get used to this also. 8x10 paper was once the standard for small/medium enlargements, now it is hard to find, paper comes in 8.5x11 letter size so I set the printer to do an 8x10 image centered on the paper and mount it with the white margins hidden under the mat board.

Of course since many/most digital cameras can be set to different ratios you can do that. Just remember that you are then only using part of your sensor with fewer megapixels.

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