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Apr 16, 2015 05:47:38   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
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DavidPine wrote:
I shoot architectural real estate photography. I use a 14-24 f/2.8, a 24mm shift-tilt, a RRS Gimble tripod head. Lightroom, ViewPoint2 and Perfect Effects. I shoot HDR and panos. I don't use lighting in real estate photography because time doesn't allow for all the setups. I usually shoot manual, F/11 to F/22 and my longest exposure is 30". I make around 200 images per house to produce approximately 20-30 images. It takes me 1-1/2 to 2 hours to shoot and 2-4 hours to post process. I shoot RAW only. I never, never shoot hand held when shooting real estate. Whatever you do, you will probably produce superior images because most real estate agents use point and shoots hand held. It's not easy dealing with the lighting, exposure and distortion but I find it rewarding and challenging. Good luck.
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This is a beautiful picture.

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Apr 16, 2015 06:54:30   #
juanderfulpics Loc: central jersey
 
I'd go with the tokina 11-16 2.8, fast lens. I absolutely love mine

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Apr 16, 2015 06:55:05   #
juanderfulpics Loc: central jersey
 
I'd go with the tokina 11-16 2.8, fast lens. I absolutely love mine

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Apr 16, 2015 07:08:50   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Thank you.
WessoJPEG wrote:
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This is a beautiful picture.

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Apr 16, 2015 07:12:17   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I don't think I have made images wider that f/8-f/11. I'm usually in the range of F/11 to f/22.
Gene51 wrote:
It's not a low light lens, but if you are shooting real estate you are using a tripod indoors, aren't you? Within your budget, I am afraid you are not going to find a lens with an F2.8 or faster maximum opening at all focal lengths, even used.


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Apr 16, 2015 07:32:45   #
clinnon
 
DavidPine wrote:
I shoot architectural real estate photography. I use a 14-24 f/2.8, a 24mm shift-tilt, a RRS Gimble tripod head. Lightroom, ViewPoint2 and Perfect Effects. I shoot HDR and panos. I don't use lighting in real estate photography because time doesn't allow for all the setups. I usually shoot manual, F/11 to F/22 and my longest exposure is 30". I make around 200 images per house to produce approximately 20-30 images. It takes me 1-1/2 to 2 hours to shoot and 2-4 hours to post process. I shoot RAW only. I never, never shoot hand held when shooting real estate. Whatever you do, you will probably produce superior images because most real estate agents use point and shoots hand held. It's not easy dealing with the lighting, exposure and distortion but I find it rewarding and challenging. Good luck.
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David,
I always appreciate your input and good advice.

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Apr 16, 2015 07:40:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
saparoo wrote:
I really need advice on the best wide angle lens for real estate photography. For now, my budget is about $600. I shoot with a canon 60D. I'm looking at the canon 10-22mm f3.5-4.5. It has good reviews for landscape but can't find much on indoor/lowlight. Suggestions muchly appreciated.


All of the lenses mentioned so far will work. Personally, I'd look for a constant aperture zoom and go for something between 10 and 20 mm at f/2.8. Check reviews at dpreview.com.

The fixed aperture as you zoom is important when you shoot with the lens near wide open and want to balance (non-ETTL) flash with ambient light, as is often done in real estate work. If it varies, you risk flash underexposure when zoomed out.

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Apr 16, 2015 08:24:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
DavidPine wrote:
I don't think I have made images wider that f/8-f/11. I'm usually in the range of F/11 to f/22.

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Funny, when I used to do real estate (architectural, actually) photography, I used a 4x5 and rarely found myself using an aperture larger than F22, and was typically between F32 and F45. With my D800, the image quality drops off so quickly as you go to the smaller apertures, that I find myself only shooting at F11 when I have no other choice, and never at F16 or smaller. Even for the occasional real estate shots that I do. If I need a really wide view of something I will use a longer lens and do a pano/focus stack set, and the images will be really crisp with focus front to back an no hint of the softness I would see at F16.

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Apr 16, 2015 08:35:47   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
Tokina f 2.8, Good Tripod, 3 brackets, exposure fusion :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :D

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Apr 16, 2015 08:41:39   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Gene51 wrote:
Funny, when I used to do real estate (architectural, actually) photography, I used a 4x5 and rarely found myself using an aperture larger than F22, and was typically between F32 and F45. With my D800, the image quality drops off so quickly as you go to the smaller apertures, that I find myself only shooting at F11 when I have no other choice, and never at F16 or smaller. Even for the occasional real estate shots that I do. If I need a really wide view of something I will use a longer lens and do a pano/focus stack set, and the images will be really crisp with focus front to back an no hint of the softness I would see at F16.
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Interesting. Perhaps you could you post some examples showing the "indoor/lowlight" situations the OP asked about.

Love to see them.

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Apr 16, 2015 08:43:04   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Sorry, just realized you were addressing something else inthe thread and not the original post.

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Apr 16, 2015 08:46:29   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
saparoo wrote:
I really need advice on the best wide angle lens for real estate photography. For now, my budget is about $600. I shoot with a canon 60D. I'm looking at the canon 10-22mm f3.5-4.5. It has good reviews for landscape but can't find much on indoor/lowlight. Suggestions muchly appreciated.


This lens is very good. It will work just fine for interiors as well. I presume the realestate photography is for web postings. So a stop higher ISO will have no adverse effect. and most others in this range are about the same speed anyway.

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Apr 16, 2015 09:21:17   #
brapoza Loc: Dartmouth, MA
 
Yes the Tokina 11-16 is one of the best
saparoo wrote:
I really need advice on the best wide angle lens for real estate photography. For now, my budget is about $600. I shoot with a canon 60D. I'm looking at the canon 10-22mm f3.5-4.5. It has good reviews for landscape but can't find much on indoor/lowlight. Suggestions muchly appreciated.

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Apr 16, 2015 09:45:27   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Gene51 wrote:
Funny, when I used to do real estate (architectural, actually) photography, I used a 4x5 and rarely found myself using an aperture larger than F22, and was typically between F32 and F45. With my D800, the image quality drops off so quickly as you go to the smaller apertures, that I find myself only shooting at F11 when I have no other choice, and never at F16 or smaller. Even for the occasional real estate shots that I do. If I need a really wide view of something I will use a longer lens and do a pano/focus stack set, and the images will be really crisp with focus front to back an no hint of the softness I would see at F16.
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Around here in the Carolinas, there is little time allowed for real estate photography, unless you're photographing half million dollar properties (and up).

We sold our rather average house in Charlotte last year. The realtor sent her photographer out for about 40 minutes. Danielle did a phenomenal job in that time. The photos were good enough to put our house under contract on the same day it hit the Internet... and we had a second offer in the wings that same day.

She was very young, and just starting out, but she and her husband had worked out a formula for real estate work.

She hand-held her camera, an APS-C Canon (70D) with a Sigma 10-20 mm lens. Indoors, she worked with a mix of all the ambient light I could turn on, and a little bit of bounce flash off the ceiling. She typically gelled her flash with a strip of #85 filter to nearly match the 2700K table lamps, or a strip of .30CC green to match cool white fluorescents. White balance was dialed to 2700 or 4100, depending on the ambient source, although she worked in RAW. The Kelvin dial-up gave her a decent preview, from which her husband tweaked the images in Lightroom.

She didn't worry about depth of field. Focused at ten feet, that lens (at 10mm) is in focus from five feet to 4200 feet or so, at f/4!

Danielle told me she photographed as many as six houses a day. On a typical day, she would photograph four or five houses, with about 50 to 75 exposures at each. They would edit and typically deliver around 30 images of an average house, and the realtor would usually select 12 to 16 for the web. They put 28 on the Zillow page of our house.

My friend, Will Crockett, a Chicago photo educator and commercial photographer, has done much higher end work. He uses mirror-less cameras and makes videos. One of his jobs was to cover a 2.8 million dollar mansion, where he charged several thousand dollars to photograph and video the property. The result, a hybrid blend of stills, video, and narration, was what I would describe as real estate soft core porn... It's on the order of a Victoria's Secret commercial, but for a house.

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Apr 16, 2015 10:02:23   #
Oly Guy
 
This may have been overstated but with my nikon d3200-and a 10 30 lens at 3.5 Ap. will have a shadow from the lens in the shot until i set the lens to about 20mm then it is gone. Use of an off camera flash would of course eliminate that issue. Because of the fisheye effect of the lens it catches the barrel of the lens between 10 and 20mm-a diffuser might help however-or a hand held flash-or a cell phone flash app. held away from the camera some. Turn it on and shoot away-if it has enough power-or use a setting beyond 20mm on the camera lens.

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