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Apr 10, 2015 13:52:06   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
drk64 wrote:
DI Seller, I shared this link (video) awhile back and think this will help clarify some of your questions. I don't own a Sony (yet) but have been considering it. I shoot with Canon, 5D MKII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wM_5nROeaw


I have seen this video before. It's a great clip and very convincing. I happen to be an A-Mount fan. The video does NOT mention A-mount but, the A77M2 does everything the cameras he is taking about do.

I have a friend who is an excellent photographer. He has been talking to me about his plans to sell off his Nikon gear and buy an A6000. I had him over last night and demonstrated to him some of the features built into my A77M2. I also handed him my recently acquired A3000 with a legacy f/1.2 lens attached to it. I showed him how contrast peaking can be used to assist in manual focus. I think he was impressed.

I just e-mailed him the link you provided. This might push him to pull the trigger on his A6000 purchase. If it does not, nothing will!

It's the size and weight thing that impresses him. He does a lot of travel on airplanes. He also does underwater photography and there is an underwater housing made for the A6000 that is much smaller than the housing he is currently using on his Nikon. He was showing me how his Nikon has a serious problem with dust on the sensor. I was shocked! He says the Nikon he has is notorious for that dust problem. If I remember correctly he has the Nikon D80. (I'm not sure)

Edit######

I just found a link to my friends web page.
http://brook-ward.com/

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Apr 10, 2015 14:42:50   #
rod gamble
 
Thanks Dave. That was informative.

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Apr 10, 2015 17:49:06   #
copterpilot Loc: Over there
 
I made the switch from the d7100 to the Sony a7 about 8 months ago. I absolutely love the sony. My only complaints are with the battery life and the menus took some getting used to. There are more ways to customize the a7 series than I could count. I wish I had known the a7II was coming out, I would have got it. I just bought the Rokinon 14mm lens for my a7 and can't wait to get out and shoot with it some. Either way, I don't think you can go wrong. Just be patient with the Sony if you go that route.

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Apr 10, 2015 17:49:29   #
redrocktom Loc: Sedona
 
DI Seller wrote:
Have been shooting with a Nikon D60 for many years and am now looking to upgrade. I also have the 40mm 1.8 prime and 55-200mm lenses, but that is not an issue. Not being able to make the financial plunge into the D750, which I would love to have, I'm considering a D7100 or the new D7200. However, someone I work with constantly sings the praises of the Sony a7 series cameras. He loves using them for astrophotog. I tend to be more of a traditionalist, but like the reviews on the Sony mirror less concept and the demos in the store seems to be more appealing as time goes by. Love the light weight, first off. Although I don't care for the electronic image in the viewfinder, I do like seeing the immediate results when adjusting the shutter speed/aperture/ISO prior to taking the pic. I know the range of lenses is limited with the Sony. Where I work, I see customers slowly moving toward the a7 line, and some even abandoning there DSLR's, both Canon & Nikon.

Would appreciate some serious input, especially from those who have either used both or have found themselves in a similar situation. As always...many thanks for your input.
Have been shooting with a Nikon D60 for many years... (show quote)


I'm considering the a7II myself, along with the Oly E-M5II and the Samsung NX-1, all mirrorless. With the Sony it's a full frame so you are in to FF lenses which are bigger and heavier than the crop frames. Although Sony is only offering f4 zooms to try to keep the size/weight down. I'm leaning toward the smaller packages because I don't print large or do major crops, which along with shallow DoF are the key advantages of FF.

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Apr 10, 2015 19:22:28   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
DI Seller wrote:
Have been shooting with a Nikon D60 for many years and am now looking to upgrade. I also have the 40mm 1.8 prime and 55-200mm lenses, but that is not an issue. Not being able to make the financial plunge into the D750, which I would love to have, I'm considering a D7100 or the new D7200. However, someone I work with constantly sings the praises of the Sony a7 series cameras. He loves using them for astrophotog. I tend to be more of a traditionalist, but like the reviews on the Sony mirror less concept and the demos in the store seems to be more appealing as time goes by. Love the light weight, first off. Although I don't care for the electronic image in the viewfinder, I do like seeing the immediate results when adjusting the shutter speed/aperture/ISO prior to taking the pic. I know the range of lenses is limited with the Sony. Where I work, I see customers slowly moving toward the a7 line, and some even abandoning there DSLR's, both Canon & Nikon.

Would appreciate some serious input, especially from those who have either used both or have found themselves in a similar situation. As always...many thanks for your input.
Have been shooting with a Nikon D60 for many years... (show quote)


The part I do not understand is why you are thinking of Sony FF vs Nikon crop ?? AND, you do not really say what kind of photography is your main interest ?? .......

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Apr 10, 2015 22:34:25   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
imagemeister wrote:
The part I do not understand is why you are thinking of Sony FF vs Nikon crop ?? AND, you do not really say what kind of photography is your main interest ?? .......


And if he can't afford the d750 (and lenses) then how can he afford the a7 and proper lenses?

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Apr 11, 2015 03:01:14   #
rod gamble
 
I have to agree with your question. I wrote earlier about switching from Nikon to Sony. I was going to buy the A7ii but found its only real advantages to be the 5 way stabilization and the placement of the shutter button. I chose instead, the A7s. More expensive and lower MP count but much faster focus and firing speed. Also better picture quality unless you are making a print to cover a wall. With a 24-240 lens, it is reasonably small and fast but with extra batteries, sky filter, holster, monitor shield, insurance and tax the price tag was over $4,000.

If he is looking for a lower price, the Sony A6000 has a slightly smaller sensor (APS-C), but is close to the A7 in photo quality and speed.

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Apr 11, 2015 03:27:25   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
DI Seller wrote:
Have been shooting with a Nikon D60 for many years and am now looking to upgrade. I also have the 40mm 1.8 prime and 55-200mm lenses, but that is not an issue. Not being able to make the financial plunge into the D750, which I would love to have, I'm considering a D7100 or the new D7200. However, someone I work with constantly sings the praises of the Sony a7 series cameras. He loves using them for astrophotog. I tend to be more of a traditionalist, but like the reviews on the Sony mirror less concept and the demos in the store seems to be more appealing as time goes by. Love the light weight, first off. Although I don't care for the electronic image in the viewfinder, I do like seeing the immediate results when adjusting the shutter speed/aperture/ISO prior to taking the pic. I know the range of lenses is limited with the Sony. Where I work, I see customers slowly moving toward the a7 line, and some even abandoning there DSLR's, both Canon & Nikon.

Would appreciate some serious input, especially from those who have either used both or have found themselves in a similar situation. As always...many thanks for your input.
Have been shooting with a Nikon D60 for many years... (show quote)


I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many years. I purchased a Sony a6000 about 8 months ago to get used to it to take on a trip to Europe. Here are my comments for what they are worth.

I have owned two Sony camcorders before and this camera also take pretty good photographs and videos. If your only criteria is the image you will like Sony. I also like the EVF on the A6000.

However, the longevity of the product has not proven great. Both my camcorders needed repair much earlier than a previous Canon did. So far my Sony A6000 seems to be doing well. I was assured that Sony had improved.

What they have not improved is the Sony insistance on using non-standard accessories. The hot shoe on the A6000 is called the multi-interface shoe and it can use only Sony flash units that are built for that hotshoe. The hotshoe on other Sony products is also proprietary, but not standard even across the Sony line.

I occasionally like to take video. There are some subjects that need video (For example, my grand daughter's first steps.) Now good video demands decent audio which normally means a shock mounted shotgun mic. Every other brand uses a 3.5 mm jack to accommodate such a mic. Not Sony. The only mic that works is one of the three Sony proprietary mics; all way overpriced and not very good quality. I already have a quite good Rode mic for my Nikon. (And, if I want to get even fancier, I can hook up my Sennheisser mic--but not for a Sony).

At least Sony has given up on the memory stick--and Betamax.

This camera does a good job as long as you don't want any accessories. Mirrorless is also good.

I apologize for the overlong report, but I have really put this through the paces. Of course it is not an a7. And YMMV

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Apr 11, 2015 04:03:19   #
JonesGirl145 Loc: Greater Raleigh, NC
 
I am not an experienced photographer and went from carrying my D90 every day to to an a6000 just after it came out. It is light for every day use and has taken great pictures on many occasions.

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Apr 11, 2015 08:51:22   #
dparker708
 
I've got the Sony a6000 and Canon lenses. Will the Committee adapter fit my Sony?
BTW I disagree with the statement the dslrs take better photos than the mirrorless cameras. Here's one from my Sony.



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Apr 11, 2015 12:17:26   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many years. I purchased a Sony a6000 about 8 months ago to get used to it to take on a trip to Europe. Here are my comments for what they are worth.

I have owned two Sony camcorders before and this camera also take pretty good photographs and videos. If your only criteria is the image you will like Sony. I also like the EVF on the A6000.

However, the longevity of the product has not proven great. Both my camcorders needed repair much earlier than a previous Canon did. So far my Sony A6000 seems to be doing well. I was assured that Sony had improved.

What they have not improved is the Sony insistance on using non-standard accessories. The hot shoe on the A6000 is called the multi-interface shoe and it can use only Sony flash units that are built for that hotshoe. The hotshoe on other Sony products is also proprietary, but not standard even across the Sony line.

I occasionally like to take video. There are some subjects that need video (For example, my grand daughter's first steps.) Now good video demands decent audio which normally means a shock mounted shotgun mic. Every other brand uses a 3.5 mm jack to accommodate such a mic. Not Sony. The only mic that works is one of the three Sony proprietary mics; all way overpriced and not very good quality. I already have a quite good Rode mic for my Nikon. (And, if I want to get even fancier, I can hook up my Sennheisser mic--but not for a Sony).

At least Sony has given up on the memory stick--and Betamax.

This camera does a good job as long as you don't want any accessories. Mirrorless is also good.

I apologize for the overlong report, but I have really put this through the paces. Of course it is not an a7. And YMMV
I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many... (show quote)


We get it; you have a gripe with Sony. If others have the same problems they will post them.

We got your message, loud and clear. ;)

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Apr 12, 2015 14:10:16   #
copterpilot Loc: Over there
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many years. I purchased a Sony a6000 about 8 months ago to get used to it to take on a trip to Europe. Here are my comments for what they are worth.

I have owned two Sony camcorders before and this camera also take pretty good photographs and videos. If your only criteria is the image you will like Sony. I also like the EVF on the A6000.

However, the longevity of the product has not proven great. Both my camcorders needed repair much earlier than a previous Canon did. So far my Sony A6000 seems to be doing well. I was assured that Sony had improved.

What they have not improved is the Sony insistance on using non-standard accessories. The hot shoe on the A6000 is called the multi-interface shoe and it can use only Sony flash units that are built for that hotshoe. The hotshoe on other Sony products is also proprietary, but not standard even across the Sony line.

I occasionally like to take video. There are some subjects that need video (For example, my grand daughter's first steps.) Now good video demands decent audio which normally means a shock mounted shotgun mic. Every other brand uses a 3.5 mm jack to accommodate such a mic. Not Sony. The only mic that works is one of the three Sony proprietary mics; all way overpriced and not very good quality. I already have a quite good Rode mic for my Nikon. (And, if I want to get even fancier, I can hook up my Sennheisser mic--but not for a Sony).

At least Sony has given up on the memory stick--and Betamax.

This camera does a good job as long as you don't want any accessories. Mirrorless is also good.

I apologize for the overlong report, but I have really put this through the paces. Of course it is not an a7. And YMMV
I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many... (show quote)


I have a Sony a7 and use my Nikon sb700 and a yongnuo flash on my a7 all the time. My understanding is the a7 and a6000 have the same hot shoe. From what Ive read the hot shoe from Sony was made so that it would accompany any flash unit.
Not to argue against that point you made, I was just curious if you've had problems using other flash on yours?

Tim

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Apr 12, 2015 14:49:14   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many years. I purchased a Sony a6000 about 8 months ago to get used to it to take on a trip to Europe. Here are my comments for what they are worth.

I have owned two Sony camcorders before and this camera also take pretty good photographs and videos. If your only criteria is the image you will like Sony. I also like the EVF on the A6000.

However, the longevity of the product has not proven great. Both my camcorders needed repair much earlier than a previous Canon did. So far my Sony A6000 seems to be doing well. I was assured that Sony had improved.

What they have not improved is the Sony insistance on using non-standard accessories. The hot shoe on the A6000 is called the multi-interface shoe and it can use only Sony flash units that are built for that hotshoe. The hotshoe on other Sony products is also proprietary, but not standard even across the Sony line.

I occasionally like to take video. There are some subjects that need video (For example, my grand daughter's first steps.) Now good video demands decent audio which normally means a shock mounted shotgun mic. Every other brand uses a 3.5 mm jack to accommodate such a mic. Not Sony. The only mic that works is one of the three Sony proprietary mics; all way overpriced and not very good quality. I already have a quite good Rode mic for my Nikon. (And, if I want to get even fancier, I can hook up my Sennheisser mic--but not for a Sony).

At least Sony has given up on the memory stick--and Betamax.

This camera does a good job as long as you don't want any accessories. Mirrorless is also good.

I apologize for the overlong report, but I have really put this through the paces. Of course it is not an a7. And YMMV
I have been shooting Nikon DSLRs and SLRs for many... (show quote)




As an a6000 user, I have used three different brands of flashes manually on the 6000. I understand I must have a dedicated flash to get HSS which is important to me. There are adapters sold for the older proprietary mounts that can be purchased for around $10, but the a6000 is a model that does not require one. I knew about the proprietary mic for video before purchasing, but it was not an important feature for me. Wondering if an adapter would allow your mic's to be used?

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Apr 16, 2015 06:02:13   #
Dun1 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
I got a Sony A6000 a few months ago. I is a great camera, I shoot sports so 12 frames per second is a plus. If you are a Canon or Nikon user and have lenses you wish to use. You can buy adapters to convert you lenses to the Sony E mount. I started with a couple of less expensive ones, from what the research I have done the Metabones is the answer in being able to obtain the AF features of your lenses if you intend to use it with Canon,Nikon, or other mounts.
I will add the quality of the images are great, the color, the images seem to have less noise at higher ISOs compared to some Canon bodies I am using. They see to have a get noise here feature around 5,000.
I will also add that it certainly is less fatiguing to shoot with a A6000 the weight is great. I was able to reduce the size of my bag from the normal Think Tank Airport Security size bag, to a bag with lenses, filters, cards and batteries to approx 1/4 the size of the Airport security bag

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Apr 23, 2015 11:14:42   #
DI Seller Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
I certainly appreciate all the excellent input. Am still looking into it.

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