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Mar 31, 2015 05:58:03   #
grandmadeb Loc: illinois, usa
 
good luck with your retirement. sorry to say it but we all work all our lives, to take care of our families. I was a RN, for many years. Recently spent 2 days in hospital, what a shock. the world is changing, and the younger generation is here to take care of us. People may not know quality because they have never seen quality. its a sad story, but true. Nothing we baby boomers can do, but step back and watch, maybe shake our heads. deb

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Mar 31, 2015 06:00:45   #
nancyab Loc: Enfield, CT, USA
 
Sorry to hear what "professional photography" has come down to. I was with FPG (Freelance Photographer's Guild) in NYC as a freelance photographer for about ten years. This was prior to digital at all. I worked with 35mm slides and B&W. I had my own darkroom and really enjoyed it. They went out of business in, I believe, the late 1980s - I received all my submissions back, which are waiting to get scanned into my computer. I would be interested to learn what you have for sale. My email address is: nancybutler15@msn.com. You will certainly have far more fun with photography doing it as a hobby rather than a frustrating business. Good luck with your retirement - it's a great way to go!

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Mar 31, 2015 06:01:29   #
Bobbee
 
I find that after couples get 'rapped' by all the other vendors they look to save on the photographer. It is what it is. Unless you are dealing with high end clients, this is very much expected. I had one wedding where the B&G were claiming poverty. Then at the wedding there was a video guy. Hummmm. Good luck on your retirement, enjoy your family.

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Mar 31, 2015 06:19:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
All some people think about is getting the lowest possible cost. Quality is their their goal. It's good you're in a position to retire.

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Mar 31, 2015 06:38:40   #
Impressionist
 
Have a friend who went to China and couldn't find Chinese Food. You have much experience with an increasingly uneducated clientele. It won't get easier but you have something important to teach.

Maybe putting a book or pamphlet together that teaches clients what to expect along with what is being paid for will help you feel better.

Making a living in the arts has never been easy. Degas had to paint fans. You are in good company.

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Mar 31, 2015 06:53:27   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Hi Dave! Good for you. Going back to the family is going to be great!!! When I was a young man I did weddings and anything else I could with a camera. But when Janny wanted kids I had to give it up. The small towns around us could not support a family and the Doctor bills. We lost 6 babies. But ended up with 2 wonderful boys. But I became a workaholic trying to get all the bills paid off. And stayed that way till both of my boy got through college 8 years ago. I got them through school without taking out loans. Some times I am sorry I missed so much of the kids playing and doing things with them. But they both know what and why I did it and are very thankful. In 2 years I will be retired and Janny and I are going to see the country. And my boys say they will meet us out on the road and join us when they can. This will be my second chance to get to know them!!! You are going to love retirement!!!! Enjoy those kids!!!!!!

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Mar 31, 2015 06:59:38   #
wolfd Loc: Vancouver, Canada
 
Have a nice retirement - you have earned it !!

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Mar 31, 2015 07:07:48   #
d2b2 Loc: Catonsville, Maryland, USA
 
dirty dave wrote:
Photography has changed so much in the last ten years, I just can't keep up or can afford the newest gadget that comes out each month. I was called about a wedding a week or so ago. I priced it at $1200.00 and was pretty muched laughed at. Local weddings are being done around $200.00 to $400.00 with beginners cameras and a weekend photography class. I have seen the writing on the wall. Also some of the photos from low end cameras and even cell phones. I must admit they are pretty decent, not the highest quality but decent. My video business is suffering the same. Smaller cheaper cameras have dominated the business. And again they are pretty decent. After talking it over with my wife I think it time to retire. It is time to make my own memories instead of photography and video taping everyone else memories. I have realized I have missed a lot of my own family memories by photographing everyone else. What a shame all that I have missed. But it was my job. I am now going through my inventory of cameras and video equipment to put on eBay. There are only two cameras I am going to keep and just shoot what I want. I will still sell copies to the four gallaries that buy from me. I am going to give my assistant of many years the business and just fade out and enjoy my family. (Ps. Any of my fellow Hoggers can pm me if you are interested in equipment that I will have left over) by the way I am not stopping shooting photos just not shooting for anyone else.
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I had a photography business back when Hitler was a corporal, but no longer. (Not that long ago, really; I am given to exaggeration...) With that background, I have kept my ear to the ground about the business - as a business - particularly since then, I have been in marketing and sales for a variety of industries. While I believe you are tragically correct, there are a number of photographers - particularly young ones - doing a remarkable job of promoting themselves to niche markets and finding tremendous success. One such photographer is the wife of my nephew, who is not formally trained, but a very good (not EXCELLENT) wedding photographer, herself.

In the past five years, her business has grown incredibly, and in particular, to an extremely upscale audience. And she has done it herself, because it is not like she was born to that "high society" class, where she naturally had friends in that income level from which to pull on a network of ready-made contacts. She is exceedingly busy and has been contracted to travel with the wedding party to places like the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Paris, Sydney, and more.

I am not arguing your point - the wedding business is terrible, for a number of businesses. I sell businesses for a living, and have regularly seen all varieties of businesses that cater to weddings suffer for a number of reasons. The wedding cake business is also fraught with amateurs that severely damage the volume Bakers used to enjoy. Florists are finding fewer takers, with amateurs and families doing their own arrangements. There are any number of instances where amateurs and "hobbyists" are doing cut-rate deals or favors for friends, as people try to get away from the mammoth and spiraling costs that have characterized weddings for years.

But the moral may be that there are niches. It is a matter of being more business and promotionally oriented, than just being a photographic artist. Please understand that I am not implying any negativity about you; it is simply that given the reduction of the overall market, the BUSINESS of photography has changed, radically. And the photographer that wants to remain in the market has to make radical changes, in order to survive.

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Mar 31, 2015 07:20:16   #
alamomike47 Loc: San Antonio, Texas
 
dirty dave wrote:
Photography has changed so much in the last ten years, I just can't keep up or can afford the newest gadget that comes out each month. I was called about a wedding a week or so ago. I priced it at $1200.00 and was pretty muched laughed at. Local weddings are being done around $200.00 to $400.00 with beginners cameras and a weekend photography class. I have seen the writing on the wall. Also some of the photos from low end cameras and even cell phones. I must admit they are pretty decent, not the highest quality but decent. My video business is suffering the same. Smaller cheaper cameras have dominated the business. And again they are pretty decent. After talking it over with my wife I think it time to retire. It is time to make my own memories instead of photography and video taping everyone else memories. I have realized I have missed a lot of my own family memories by photographing everyone else. What a shame all that I have missed. But it was my job. I am now going through my inventory of cameras and video equipment to put on eBay. There are only two cameras I am going to keep and just shoot what I want. I will still sell copies to the four gallaries that buy from me. I am going to give my assistant of many years the business and just fade out and enjoy my family. (Ps. Any of my fellow Hoggers can pm me if you are interested in equipment that I will have left over) by the way I am not stopping shooting photos just not shooting for anyone else.
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I believe its time to celebrate and have fun. Sounds like you have given much to provide for others. Many choose not to do this in life. Rather than dwell on the changing wedding market celebrate the fact it has shown you a path to a new chapter in your life. A learned man once told you will know when to retire because all the sudden it will hurt to put your pants in the morning. This happen to me nearly 4 years ago after a bout with myself over the changing market realizing it was time to retire. But today I so please it happened. Again celebrate the time you will have with your family and the joy you will have taking photo for yourself. My friend have fun with your family, photography, and life, wishing you the best.

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Mar 31, 2015 07:43:16   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I have been retired 15 years. I absolutely love it. I have been called back to active duty to make architectural images on a temporary basis and I am enjoying it. I was asked if I would shoot a wedding and I said, "Sure. My fee is $20,000." That ended the conversation. Enjoy your retirement and have no regrets.

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Mar 31, 2015 07:57:32   #
banjonut Loc: Southern Michigan
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Unfortunately there is a growing number of "professional" wedding photographers out there who visit Costco and get a cheap kit setup, and then stop off at Office Depot to get cards made and they become an Instant Pro!
The sickening part of it is that the quality of the images is usually garbage, as can often be expected based on the seriously discounted price.
In the past year I have had 2 customers come to me to get prints made of their "Pro" wedding photos because the Kiosk at Walmart will only print them a 2" x 3" in size. When examining the CD with their wedding pics I find over 1500 thumbnails of 640 x 480 images, and that's all the client got from their so called "Pro" photographer. I am currently under subpoena to testify in an upcoming civil suit against one of these faux pro photogs over these very images.
There is probably little the scammed client can do to recover anything more than the photographers fees, and then only if the judge is sympathetic, because the photog DID present the client with images of the wedding as they were contracted to do, its just that the images are way too small to print as they are only sized for Facebook posting and nothing else.
You get what you pay for.......if you are very lucky!
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Times keep a changing, and usually not for the benter. Glad I'm past the age where I want to be photographed.

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Mar 31, 2015 08:09:50   #
jputnick
 
Sad to see this happening. People should remember the adage "You get what you pay for." Enjoy your retirement. I would also be interested in seeing what you are parting with.

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Mar 31, 2015 08:10:59   #
Jcmarino
 
I had someone call me and ask me to shoot their wedding for 2-400.00. I told them I would shoot 1/2 hour for 400. They were in shock! They wanted 10 hours. LOL I told them to buy disposable cameras for each table and let everyone shoot. They said they did not want to spend that much money and then have to pay to develop the prints. Unfortunately we live in a world where marriage is not taken seriously by most folks. Photos of something that will not last with someone you never want to see again, just are not that important anymore.

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Mar 31, 2015 08:18:40   #
dave_roe Loc: Rome Italy
 
Go enjoy yourself and at a time when you can do so and have some fun.

I got to the point of hearing - you charge what? I have a friend that can do it for the cost of prints and they are cheap over at, (fill in big box store here).

On one of my close to the last assignment I was told by two of those in attendance it must be great to be able to charge a bunch of money for the same thing their point and shoot cameras do. They were also taking pictures to give as a gift and yes one was using an iPad. That helped make the move very simple.

Now I do only jobs by request and when I decide I have the time.

The first thing I did was post a sign that read - I am retired. As in the past I don't work for free; family and friends pay extra. Feel free to inquire if you have a need - I might just help out. Be advised my schedule is kind of full.

My schedule, I now get to shoot what I want, when I want and time is relative. It is really fun taking pictures for only one reason - I wanted too.

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Mar 31, 2015 08:21:44   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
Jcmarino wrote:
I had someone call me and ask me to shoot their wedding for 2-400.00. I told them I would shoot 1/2 hour for 400. They were in shock! They wanted 10 hours. LOL I told them to buy disposable cameras for each table and let everyone shoot. They said they did not want to spend that much money and then have to pay to develop the prints. Unfortunately we live in a world where marriage is not taken seriously by most folks. Photos of something that will not last with someone you never want to see again, just are not that important anymore.
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You make a very good point. The desire to have a 'wedding book' for the coffee table is something that is going out of favor. Today, social media dominates and for many that's the only way they 'show' photos of their wedding - other than to carry them as an album on their cell phones.

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