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Mar 25, 2015 17:39:33   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
Here's a RAW image of 1% of a single red hair on my favorite Irish lass. She really looks good here…nude…enjoy…
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Mar 25, 2015 17:46:40   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I'm not sure how to respond to your request but I'll try. I'm going to upload two images. One is the JPG provided by the camera. The second one is a JPG that was made from the RAW file and corrected and optimized to the limits of my skills. I hope this helps.
Um... those don't look like limited skills to me! If one doesn't immediately at least try RAW after seeing this, then they should maybe take up bowling. ;-)

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Mar 25, 2015 17:49:09   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
mikeroetex wrote:
... Or... if my PP skills stink, your jpeg OOC might look better than my jpeg, depending on your camera set up, leading you to believe that RAW was no better than jpeg.


If bob is still unwilling to acknowledge the inherent advantage a raw file has over a jpeg file in its potential for post-processing, this could be the reason he is even calling it into question.

So far, he has concurred that raw files are advantageous (i.e. for white balance adjustments) only once. While he has complimented some for their post processing skills, he has stopped short of conceding the point.

Couple that with the snide remarks to those who had the audacity to not follow his explicit instructions, and you have the classic passive aggressive... troll.

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Mar 25, 2015 17:49:35   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Mudshark wrote:
Here's a RAW image of 1% of a single red hair on my favorite Irish lass. She really looks good here…nude…enjoy…
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Here's a RAW image of 1% of a single red hair on m... (show quote)


DAMN! You beat me to it!!

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 25, 2015 17:54:44   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
Mudshark wrote:
Here's a RAW image of 1% of a single red hair on my favorite Irish lass. She really looks good here…nude…enjoy…
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Here's a RAW image of 1% of a single red hair on m... (show quote)

Oh please don't type these long uninterrupted strings of digits in the future! They don't respond to the normal text wrap and completely mess up the formatting on the page. Now ALL of the remainder of this page will be stretched out across the page to the lentgh of your digits, requiring everyone to scroll horizontally to read the posts. Not a problem on a 27 inch screen I suppose, but a really pain in the tush on an iPad! It also reduces the size of the print to the point that it is nearly, no is, impossible to read.

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Mar 25, 2015 17:57:49   #
canon Lee
 
buenaventura43 wrote:
This is my 14th. month of using DSLR ,I don't know what RAW or JPEG is .All my intention from the start is take picture that will make my eyes contented . I don't even know if my camera was set to take picture in RAW or JPEG .So after reading the replies here I then set it to RAW . Thank you Jim Bob for starting this thread.


HI and welcome. It is really simple. Your camera creates digital data. the data is like instructions used to create a picture. The picture is created in pixels. Each pixel has lots of information applied to it, like color,black & white, brightness etc. When you take a picture in Camera Raw you are collecting all of the instructions needed to construct all of the individual pixels that make up the pix. Its like a puzzle, where each pixel is a puzzle piece., & each puzzle piece is different. The picture that is created is a JPEG. (Raw data is not a picture but instructions how to created each pixel). You have a choice to use the Raw data or let the camera create the pix as a JPEG. The advantage for shooting in Camera Raw is that you have a complete set of data so that you can edit or correct the pixels. If you choose to shoot in JPEG then you are letting the camera make a picture for you. The camera will decide (not you) what the picture will look like and it will take what data it wants and throw the rest of the data away. ( never ever able to use again. it will be gone). As a photographer you would want all of the original data so that you could make corrections to the picture not what the JPEG compressed version is. With Camera Raw you can use the Raw data to correct the picture to your liking. You will always want to post edit your shots before you print. In the post editing programs you can adjust the picture using the complete Camera Raw data, where JPEG from your camera will limit your ability to correct the pix, due to less data.
So start with RAW and edit with Raw before you convert to JPEG to print.

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Mar 25, 2015 18:03:39   #
cwhonda Loc: SLC, UT.
 
HEART wrote:
Ok, NOW 25 pages...


Now 28 pages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mar 25, 2015 18:05:21   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
Mudshark wrote:
Here's a RAW image of 1% of a single red hair on my favorite Irish lass. She really looks good here…nude…enjoy…
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etc etc.
* * * And of course on UH any thread where it is possible to state opinion over reason...it will go to the dogs PDQ

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Mar 25, 2015 18:12:30   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
The Earth is 6000 years old.

No it isn't its much older than that , there are fossils of dinosaurs

No ,that is just your opinion ....

'#@~#???!!!

just gets that way some times Now about raw and jpeg ... um never mind ;)

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Mar 25, 2015 18:13:51   #
backroader Loc: Wherever we park our motorhome
 
With this comment and his examples I think Dman pretty much answers the question.

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Mar 25, 2015 18:15:15   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
TheDman wrote:
You mean the link where you again show that you're ignorant of why one should shoot RAW?

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No, certainly not, I meant the link where the invention of all this stuff is taken into consideration and evaluated by people who have no axe to grind and no silly opinion to try to convince those who will not calmly learn listen and reason.
You don't happen to have any credibility on this forum, didn't you know that? No One else does either. This is why I did not state an opinion but referred you to a more reliable source.
You might respect that information unless you are smarter than the people who invented digital photography.
:) :)

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Mar 25, 2015 18:15:48   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
TheDman wrote:
No, it can be shown on a computer screen, as I did with the hummingbird photo. And 72 dpi is a myth. Completely incorrect.

In fact, there's nothing better than a computer monitor for evaluating your images. First generation images are always superior to second generations.


I've never seen a second gen. image of my own. I use Picasa to organize my photos. It's non-destructive. Like Lightroom I hear tell. Never a reason to start with anything other than the original RAW file.

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Mar 25, 2015 18:18:02   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
splitwindow wrote:
27 wasted pages! There is a place and time for .jpg's and for raw. Depends on what you're shooting and what you want you want for a finish product. I used to shoot both .jpg's and raw and you can see the difference when you download them. Big difference, .JPG's have been processed by the camera, raw files have not. I almost always shoot raw now, I want every bit of data that my camera can capture. This entire topic could have been solved by doing a google search for .jpg vs raw. Try this site to start. Lots of images posted there to show what can be done with each.
http://www.slrlounge.com/school/raw-vs-jpeg-jpg-the-ultimate-visual-guide/

There are lots of sites that will cover this subject in great detail.
Anyone wonder why he started this topic when he could have found out everything he wanted to know by doing a simple google search. Maybe he just wanted to stir the pot, and he did.
Probably laughing his head off at all the misinformation posted.
27 wasted pages! There is a place and time for .j... (show quote)


I've read very few questions on the Hog that can't be answered by a simple Google search.

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Mar 25, 2015 18:21:19   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
washy wrote:
You don't want to know, your just being argumentative, you have already made up your mind, so if you do not want to shoot the best images you can ,shoot jpeg. Nothing else need be said


I like pithy replies like yours. :thumbup:

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Mar 25, 2015 18:24:53   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Photographer Jim wrote:
Oh please don't type these long uninterrupted strings of digits in the future! They don't respond to the normal text wrap and completely mess up the formatting on the page. Now ALL of the remainder of this page will be stretched out across the page to the lentgh of your digits, requiring everyone to scroll horizontally to read the posts. Not a problem on a 27 inch screen I suppose, but a really pain in the tush on an iPad! It also reduces the size of the print to the point that it is nearly, no is, impossible to read.
Oh please don't type these long uninterrupted stri... (show quote)


Thanks, I wondered why I had to scroll horizontally to read that. Now I know.

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