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Mar 1, 2015 02:35:53   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Wrong again, the ORIGINAL material was soft tissue then was solidified by age and burial then brought back to elasticity with the acid. your ignorance is amazingly disturbing.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA your just nuts.

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Mar 1, 2015 02:36:52   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL overwhelming??? LOL not even in your own imagination. There is no evidence that the Planet is billions of years old, dating methods are completely inaccurate and it's based on a model not true science. No way in hell soft tissue like blood cells can ever survive millions of year...ever. Anytime science seems to contradict old earth proponents they seem to magically make up more theories on why it could lol. All of your beliefs are based on unproven theories at best.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Mar 1, 2015 02:37:02   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL overwhelming??? LOL not even in your own imagination. There is no evidence that the Planet is billions of years old, dating methods are completely inaccurate and it's based on a model not true science. No way in hell soft tissue like blood cells can ever survive millions of year...ever. Anytime science seems to contradict old earth proponents they seem to magically make up more theories on why it could lol. All of your beliefs are based on unproven theories at best.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Mar 1, 2015 02:42:27   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Wellhiem wrote:
I am not, and I have never claimed to be an atheist. I am an anti-theist. I think that all you so called religious people do nothing but spread ignorance and hatred and the sooner you are re-educated or wiped out the better. Please never refer to me as an atheist again.


I will refer to you as what I see from your comments and responses, I will deem you an Atheists because that is the evidence you provide, You just said you are Anti-theists, that's the same as Atheist.... anti and theist is "Anti-theist". Do you ever think before you comment??? We spread truth not ignorance, it is atheists like you who propagate ignorance and Godlessness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheism
Antitheism (sometimes anti-theism) is active opposition to theism. The term has had a range of applications; in secular contexts, it typically refers to direct opposition to organized religion or to the belief in any deity, while in a theistic context, it sometimes refers to opposition to a specific god or gods.

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Mar 1, 2015 09:01:10   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I will refer to you as what I see from your comments and responses, I will deem you an Atheists because that is the evidence you provide, You just said you are Anti-theists, that's the same as Atheist.... anti and theist is "Anti-theist". Do you ever think before you comment??? We spread truth not ignorance, it is atheists like you who propagate ignorance and Godlessness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheism
Antitheism (sometimes anti-theism) is active opposition to theism. The term has had a range of applications; in secular contexts, it typically refers to direct opposition to organized religion or to the belief in any deity, while in a theistic context, it sometimes refers to opposition to a specific god or gods.
I will refer to you as what I see from your commen... (show quote)


Why did god put 50 feet of rock on top of that poor dinosaur?

I hope no one was riding it when that entire cliff landed on top of it.

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Mar 1, 2015 09:54:07   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
To answer the question put at the title to this thread, evolutionists do what scientists do - they perform experiments to test the possible explanations for an observation. In this case, they find that the high iron levels found after death in dinosaur blood serves as an effective preservative by crosslinking proteins and nucleic acids. These structures will then remain intact as fossilization proceeds, and later (much later) acid extraction removes the mineral deposits, resulting in pliable tissue-like materials. Interestingly, preserved proteins can then be analyzed, and as a result we now know that there is present in the dinosaurs a form of collagen that is found today only in birds, giving support to the concept that birds evolved from dinosaurid ancestors. That's what evolutionary scientists do. Now, what do "creationist scientists" do?

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Mar 1, 2015 10:13:55   #
moabarch Loc: Moab, UT
 
OldDoc wrote:
To answer the question put at the title to this thread, evolutionists do what scientists do - they perform experiments to test the possible explanations for an observation. In this case, they find that the high iron levels found after death in dinosaur blood serves as an effective preservative by crosslinking proteins and nucleic acids. These structures will then remain intact as fossilization proceeds, and later (much later) acid extraction removes the mineral deposits, resulting in pliable tissue-like materials. Interestingly, preserved proteins can then be analyzed, and as a result we now know that there is present in the dinosaurs a form of collagen that is found today only in birds, giving support to the concept that birds evolved from dinosaurid ancestors. That's what evolutionary scientists do. Now, what do "creationist scientists" do?
To answer the question put at the title to this th... (show quote)


Thank you. Finally, a sensible, knowledgeable comment.

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Mar 1, 2015 12:25:50   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
moabarch wrote:
Thank you. Finally, a sensible, knowledgeable comment.


LOL only sensible to you because it fits within your own presupposition to evolution, whether the statement is true or not. Neo Darwinian evolutionists don't care about truth, they only care about what seems to be true to support their theories, even when it's manufactured to do so.

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Mar 1, 2015 13:19:08   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
OldDoc wrote:
To answer the question put at the title to this thread, evolutionists do what scientists do - they perform experiments to test the possible explanations for an observation. In this case, they find that the high iron levels found after death in dinosaur blood serves as an effective preservative by crosslinking proteins and nucleic acids. These structures will then remain intact as fossilization proceeds, and later (much later) acid extraction removes the mineral deposits, resulting in pliable tissue-like materials. Interestingly, preserved proteins can then be analyzed, and as a result we now know that there is present in the dinosaurs a form of collagen that is found today only in birds, giving support to the concept that birds evolved from dinosaurid ancestors. That's what evolutionary scientists do. Now, what do "creationist scientists" do?
To answer the question put at the title to this th... (show quote)


Birds evolved from dinosaurs, really you are going with that outdated material? Maybe this will shed light on that....
Archaeopteryx (unlike Archaeoraptor) is NOT a hoax—it is a true bird, not a “missing link”
http://creation.com/archaeopteryx-unlike-archaeoraptor-is-not-a-hoax-it-is-a-true-bird-not-a-missing-link

Although some have linked this as being a hoax, not sure how much water that holds......you all be the judge.

Scientists caught faking Dinosaur - bird fossil Archeopteryx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iz7GResDtQ&list=PLYKVNWOGHwrNN75OoDyZpBrbOPRVTj-u7

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Mar 1, 2015 14:11:14   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
An Explanation that is Not Exactly Iron-Clad
"Tyrannosaurs like this one were thought to have gone extinct 65 million years ago, but soft tissue has been found in one Tyrannosaurus rex fossil. Soft tissue has also been found in several other fossils that are supposed to be millions of years old."
http://blog.drwile.com/?p=11753

Remains of Cells: In DINOSAUR Bones!
http://blog.drwile.com/?p=9038

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Mar 1, 2015 14:16:43   #
moabarch Loc: Moab, UT
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL only sensible to you because it fits within your own presupposition to evolution, whether the statement is true or not. Neo Darwinian evolutionists don't care about truth, they only care about what seems to be true to support their theories, even when it's manufactured to do so.


I have no "presupposition". My view and belief is based on science. I am not "predisposed" to that any more than I am any other topic. I am fortunate in that I am not forced to deny true science in favor of seeking out the few and far between cases of findings or theory that do not seem to support the accepted scientific theory because my life revolves around a book of fantasy like you. You always claim to know the truth, but your reasons are always quotes from that fantastical book of yours. It is one thing to lead a good life based on teachings from that book, but I can lead a good life without that book and I don't have to deny reality in the process.

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Mar 1, 2015 14:32:15   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
moabarch wrote:
I have no "presupposition". My view and belief is based on science. I am not "predisposed" to that any more than I am any other topic. I am fortunate in that I am not forced to deny true science in favor of seeking out the few and far between cases of findings or theory that do not seem to support the accepted scientific theory because my life revolves around a book of fantasy like you. You always claim to know the truth, but your reasons are always quotes from that fantastical book of yours. It is one thing to lead a good life based on teachings from that book, but I can lead a good life without that book and I don't have to deny reality in the process.
I have no "presupposition". My view and ... (show quote)


LOL you just contradicted yourself, you first claim you have no presupposition then go onto discredit your claim by your obvious disdain for the bible and God. Your presupposition is for Neo Darwinian evolution and yet you deny it is. Many scientists from both sides of the issue are much smarter than you and I, to claim your life is based on science when in fact it is not. Neither You nor I are scientists and can not truly based our beliefs on science it self, we base our belief on what scientists have told us. I know you atheists seem to think that Christians are stupid, yet there are many scientists that are Christians and do not subscribe to your theory....are you smarter than them?? I seriously doubt that you are. I would never make a claim the atheists scientists or are stupid, that would be ludicrous to say...not to mention stupid to say.
There you go again, you seem to believe Christians deny science and that is another stupid thing to say. Yes we deny bad and untrue science based on what is taught to us, there has been so many fraudulent "science" on your side on the issue of Neo Darwinian evolution, should we discuss those problems??? I doubt you would be willing to talk about those discrepancies ha?

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Mar 1, 2015 14:35:17   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
moabarch wrote:
I have no "presupposition". My view and belief is based on science. I am not "predisposed" to that any more than I am any other topic. I am fortunate in that I am not forced to deny true science in favor of seeking out the few and far between cases of findings or theory that do not seem to support the accepted scientific theory because my life revolves around a book of fantasy like you. You always claim to know the truth, but your reasons are always quotes from that fantastical book of yours. It is one thing to lead a good life based on teachings from that book, but I can lead a good life without that book and I don't have to deny reality in the process.
I have no "presupposition". My view and ... (show quote)


Oh by the way, I have been on both sides of the issue so I had no presupposition as you are living in. I was an atheist/agnostic for the first 25 years of my life, then I examined many topics that have been reported/discussed by scientists from both sides.

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Mar 1, 2015 14:51:25   #
moabarch Loc: Moab, UT
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL you just contradicted yourself, you first claim you have no presupposition then go onto discredit your claim by your obvious disdain for the bible and God. Your presupposition is for Neo Darwinian evolution and yet you deny it is. Many scientists from both sides of the issue are much smarter than you and I, to claim your life is based on science when in fact it is not. Neither You nor I are scientists and can not truly based our beliefs on science it self, we base our belief on what scientists have told us. I know you atheists seem to think that Christians are stupid, yet there are many scientists that are Christians and do not subscribe to your theory....are you smarter than them?? I seriously doubt that you are. I would never make a claim the atheists scientists or are stupid, that would be ludicrous to say...not to mention stupid to say.
There you go again, you seem to believe Christians deny science and that is another stupid thing to say. Yes we deny bad and untrue science based on what is taught to us, there has been so many fraudulent "science" on your side on the issue of Neo Darwinian evolution, should we discuss those problems??? I doubt you would be willing to talk about those discrepancies ha?
LOL you just contradicted yourself, you first clai... (show quote)


You can, in your mind, turn any comment around upside down and backwards, twisting and contorting and make it come out meaning something entirely different than what was actually said. Your mind interprets everything anyone says to conform to your narrow little mind. I feel sorry for you that your life is so controlled by what was written long ago in another time, reinterpreted over and over and gives you very little chance to exercise free will or even think about things objectively. The hours you spend ranting and raving on this forum spitting out the same craziness day after day proves it.

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Mar 1, 2015 15:02:31   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
moabarch wrote:
You can, in your mind, turn any comment around upside down and backwards, twisting and contorting and make it come out meaning something entirely different than what was actually said. Your mind interprets everything anyone says to conform to your narrow little mind. I feel sorry for you that your life is so controlled by what was written long ago in another time, reinterpreted over and over and gives you very little chance to exercise free will or even think about things objectively. The hours you spend ranting and raving on this forum spitting out the same craziness day after day proves it.
You can, in your mind, turn any comment around ups... (show quote)


LOL I am not controlled by anything as you obviously are, I was in a mind controlled state with the neo Darwinian evolution fairy tale theory growing up in public schools...but now I have been set FREE!!! God is truth and the Truth will set you free!

I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see!!!!

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