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Feb 6, 2015 17:34:49   #
Lorima Loc: Colorado
 
I am hoping someone who has a knowledge of old glass plate negative photographs may be able to help me.
I bought these 2 glass plate negatives today and not sure if they are Collotype, Collodion Negative or Autochrome.

I would like to know the date these would have been made.
Did a particular company make these and how would they have been used.

The color glass plate is 3 1/4" x 3 1/4" The name at the top is "Ancient Jericho" f135 with a green star on the bottom left with a "2" inside.

The black & white glass plate negative is 4" x 3 1/4" with a scene in Old Gloucester and shows a date this was taken July 21 1903?

Thank you for your help.


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Feb 6, 2015 18:49:54   #
Michael Hartley Loc: Deer Capital of Georgia
 
I don't have a clue, but those old plates are pretty cool. Good find.

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Feb 6, 2015 18:52:20   #
Lorima Loc: Colorado
 
Michael Hartley wrote:
I don't have a clue, but those old plates are pretty cool. Good find.


Thanks Michael. I love collecting original photography pieces from the 1800's.

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Feb 6, 2015 19:03:13   #
Michael Hartley Loc: Deer Capital of Georgia
 
I just saw today on 'How It's Made', there's a company making new cameras, that use those plates. Titan, I think.

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Feb 6, 2015 19:34:40   #
Lorima Loc: Colorado
 
Michael Hartley wrote:
I just saw today on 'How It's Made', there's a company making new cameras, that use those plates. Titan, I think.


Oh Wow that's pretty neat.

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Feb 6, 2015 19:35:04   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
These are not negatives. The are like slides. Lantern slides. Used to have people go around and show them and give talks about what was projected. They may have been hand colord. - Dave

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Feb 6, 2015 21:04:20   #
Lorima Loc: Colorado
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
These are not negatives. The are like slides. Lantern slides. Used to have people go around and show them and give talks about what was projected. They may have been hand colord. - Dave


Thanks so much wilsondl2,
So these would have been used in a Magic Lantern? If so I now need to find a Magic Lantern. Thanks again.

Lori

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Feb 6, 2015 23:39:22   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Back in the 70's I copied pictures and a lodge came to me with a stack of about 40 of these that they used in a ritual. Their Magic Lantern bit the dust and they had to go to 35mm slides. They didn't like the pictures that they could get in 35mm slides and asked me to copy their old slides. I made a light box out of a contact printer box and was able to copy them on 35mm slide film - Dave

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Feb 7, 2015 05:37:03   #
PHIL BITTLE Loc: CALIFORNIA
 
Those aren't negatives. They're glass positives to be projected in a 3D projector.

PHIL BITTLE

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Feb 7, 2015 05:39:50   #
PHIL BITTLE Loc: CALIFORNIA
 
... or viewed in a hand held device.


PHIL BITTLE

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Feb 7, 2015 10:03:31   #
jkoar Loc: The Gunks, NY
 
PHIL BITTLE wrote:
Those aren't negatives. They're glass positives to be projected in a 3D projector.

PHIL BITTLE


These aren't slight perspective change slides. They are front and back of the same slide. I don't know how you would get a 3D effect from 1 slide...

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Feb 7, 2015 12:25:43   #
photonutbob Loc: ME,CT,MA
 
Hi Lorina: I had some of these lantern slides, I scanned them on a scanner
and printed them, they come out pretty good. Good luck,

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Feb 7, 2015 13:06:54   #
Steve2014 Loc: Washington state
 
Wilson is likely correct. Magic lanterns were early slide projectors. I doubt you will find a working one today and few of any condition outside of a museum. Their light sources ranged from a flame to electric arc. Many were made with light bulbs but they were very hot bulbs. I saw one recently in the back room of an old fraternal lodge. It was intact but the light house portion was pretty well heat damaged. As stated earlier, the color slide was likely hand colored as the image was large enough to work with.

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Feb 7, 2015 14:57:07   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Lorima wrote:
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So these would have been used in a Magic Lantern? If so I now need to find a Magic Lantern. ...


They are out there and can be found. Check out auction sites, etc.

I have one, but it's not for sale. I think it was my grandfather's when he was young (he was born in 1899 or 1900, if I recall correctly). Have a small box of slides that go with it, too. The lens is so old and crusty, not much practical use now... but it's a neat family memento, none-the-less.

Looks like it originally was designed to be used with a candle, but later was modified for use with a small electric lamp (looks like one of those old Christmas light bulbs). Not sure if this was done by the manufacturer or if someone later modified this particular unit.

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Feb 7, 2015 15:05:30   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Lorima wrote:
Thanks so much wilsondl2,
So these would have been used in a Magic Lantern? If so I now need to find a Magic Lantern. Thanks again.

Lori


If you find a Magic Lantern, could you send the Genie my way?
I'd like to ask him for one wish. ;)

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