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Mar 14, 2012 23:37:05   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
Destructive edits alter the original. What you take away you can't put back. Cropping a JPEG or a TIFF is an obvious example. Applying a filter alters the image by distorting it or otherwise modifying it, e.g., if you adjust the brightness and contrast, you'll blow out highlights and lose subtle gradations. The histogram will show this; instead of a smooth curve, you'll see "dropouts," i.e., vertical white bars where tone has been shifted.

if you work on a copy of an image, then it doesn't matter, because you have the original to fall back on.

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Mar 15, 2012 00:01:19   #
ShelterCove Loc: Nowhere, CA
 
RMM wrote:
Destructive edits alter the original. What you take away you can't put back. Cropping a JPEG or a TIFF is an obvious example. Applying a filter alters the image by distorting it or otherwise modifying it, e.g., if you adjust the brightness and contrast, you'll blow out highlights and lose subtle gradations. The histogram will show this; instead of a smooth curve, you'll see "dropouts," i.e., vertical white bars where tone has been shifted.

if you work on a copy of an image, then it doesn't matter, because you have the original to fall back on.
Destructive edits alter the original. What you tak... (show quote)


thank you. that would have been my guess but was just not sure. now I am!! :)

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Mar 15, 2012 00:12:06   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
brokeweb wrote:
brokeweb wrote:
What do you think about this one?


oops! Try this again!


i think too heavy on the texturization. Using those filters can be very instructive and one can achieve some amazing things and learn a lot. One thing i learned after awhile was how to use stuff without people knowing I am.....i get the effect and maintain a certain mystery....like magic like...

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Mar 15, 2012 00:15:19   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
RMM wrote:
The noise seems to come through in the painter version, which is also kind of dark, though perhaps that's what you were aiming for. The halo around your subject is a dead giveaway that you have over-post-processed.


I agree with RMM - for you to get that level of noise from a first level adjustment say's something ain't right from the get go.

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Mar 15, 2012 00:20:55   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
brokeweb wrote:
cony25 wrote:
How did you achieve the canvas style? I like it


There is an easy way and a hard way..The easy way is to use a plugin such as Alien Skin Snap Art or Virtual Painter. The hard way is to do it from scatch using layer styles and adjustment layers in PhotoShop.

I shot the original picture (below) in RAW so my first edits were done in ACR. I used an adjustment brush in ACR to lighten up the man. This created a bunch of noise in the photo..too much for my liking. Then I ran the image through the HDR adjustment to bump up the colors. Then I copied the HDR adjusted layer and to that layer I added a pattern-overlay (canvas) layerstyle to it. In the same layer I added an emboss layer style additionally, then adjusted the layer opacity down until I liked the effect. To sharpen it up a little, I used the unsharp-mask tool.
quote=cony25 How did you achieve the canvas style... (show quote)


I know nothing of Alien or Painter and I agree that trying to do this in Photoshop using layers alone to create would be difficult indeed. There is however a Canvas filter on Photoshop as well as a Watercolor filter both of which create variations appearing in your image posted and both of which are very simple tools to use.

Based on the description of your editing process in this case I do believe the image was over processed or incorrectly processed.

Thank you for sharing your process - it was well said and informative and i hope, for you, instructive and challenging?

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Mar 15, 2012 07:44:15   #
brokeweb Loc: Philadelphia
 
ShelterCove wrote:
brokeweb wrote:
cony25 wrote:
I have photoshop cs5,,is texturizing a filter?


Texturizing is a filter and it's destructive in cs5


Please tell me what you mean by "destructive". Not familiar with that term. And would it apply if you were working on a copy of your image?


Destructive means that you can't reverse an edit after you make it and the original file is effective. Adjustment layers are non-destructive, they add a separate layer in the file. If you want to change or delete the edit, all you have to do is delete that layer. The only way you reverse destructive layers is to not save your file and go into your file history and delete the command. After you save the file the history is lost and so does your chance to reverse it. It's a away to ensure that you can revert to your file's original state. You should always work on a copy of the original file anyway.

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Mar 15, 2012 07:59:10   #
brokeweb Loc: Philadelphia
 
docrob wrote:
brokeweb wrote:
cony25 wrote:
How did you achieve the canvas style? I like it


There is an easy way and a hard way..The easy way is to use a plugin such as Alien Skin Snap Art or Virtual Painter. The hard way is to do it from scatch using layer styles and adjustment layers in PhotoShop.

I shot the original picture (below) in RAW so my first edits were done in ACR. I used an adjustment brush in ACR to lighten up the man. This created a bunch of noise in the photo..too much for my liking. Then I ran the image through the HDR adjustment to bump up the colors. Then I copied the HDR adjusted layer and to that layer I added a pattern-overlay (canvas) layerstyle to it. In the same layer I added an emboss layer style additionally, then adjusted the layer opacity down until I liked the effect. To sharpen it up a little, I used the unsharp-mask tool.
quote=cony25 How did you achieve the canvas style... (show quote)


I know nothing of Alien or Painter and I agree that trying to do this in Photoshop using layers alone to create would be difficult indeed. There is however a Canvas filter on Photoshop as well as a Watercolor filter both of which create variations appearing in your image posted and both of which are very simple tools to use.

Based on the description of your editing process in this case I do believe the image was over processed or incorrectly processed.

Thank you for sharing your process - it was well said and informative and i hope, for you, instructive and challenging?
quote=brokeweb quote=cony25 How did you achieve ... (show quote)


I picked up the noise in ACR when I used the adjustment brush to lighten the man. The original photo is underexposed and shot in a high ISO..not a good combination. I tried to save it using an artistic approach.

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Mar 15, 2012 09:57:43   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
brokeweb wrote:
docrob wrote:
brokeweb wrote:
cony25 wrote:
How did you achieve the canvas style? I like it


There is an easy way and a hard way..The easy way is to use a plugin such as Alien Skin Snap Art or Virtual Painter. The hard way is to do it from scatch using layer styles and adjustment layers in PhotoShop.

I shot the original picture (below) in RAW so my first edits were done in ACR. I used an adjustment brush in ACR to lighten up the man. This created a bunch of noise in the photo..too much for my liking. Then I ran the image through the HDR adjustment to bump up the colors. Then I copied the HDR adjusted layer and to that layer I added a pattern-overlay (canvas) layerstyle to it. In the same layer I added an emboss layer style additionally, then adjusted the layer opacity down until I liked the effect. To sharpen it up a little, I used the unsharp-mask tool.
quote=cony25 How did you achieve the canvas style... (show quote)


I know nothing of Alien or Painter and I agree that trying to do this in Photoshop using layers alone to create would be difficult indeed. There is however a Canvas filter on Photoshop as well as a Watercolor filter both of which create variations appearing in your image posted and both of which are very simple tools to use.

Based on the description of your editing process in this case I do believe the image was over processed or incorrectly processed.

Thank you for sharing your process - it was well said and informative and i hope, for you, instructive and challenging?
quote=brokeweb quote=cony25 How did you achieve ... (show quote)


I picked up the noise in ACR when I used the adjustment brush to lighten the man. The original photo is underexposed and shot in a high ISO..not a good combination. I tried to save it using an artistic approach.
quote=docrob quote=brokeweb quote=cony25 How di... (show quote)


ok then well nice try

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