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Jan 9, 2015 10:34:41   #
Hkhabe Loc: Carlsbad, CA
 
An 810 is really that much better than the D750? Worth $1000 more, I kind of doubt it...

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Jan 9, 2015 10:41:11   #
Greenguy33 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Hkhabe wrote:
An 810 is really that much better than the D750? Worth $1000 more, I kind of doubt it...


That's what I am wondering.

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Jan 9, 2015 10:43:00   #
Hkhabe Loc: Carlsbad, CA
 
B&H didn't think the 810 was better...

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Jan 9, 2015 11:04:42   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Apaflo wrote:
But it is not impossible for a person to distinguish the difference between 80 PPI and 240 PPI (viewed at 6.5 feet). Moreover in most circumstances people won't be restrained at 6.5 feet, and will commonly approach closer if they like the picture.

Yes there are images that can be printed at low resolution, but that is almost always because they are low resolution images to start with, and print just as they are.

It isn't that low resolution can never be used, but the point still should be made very clear that quality images look better at higher PPI values, and planning on never being able to use high enough resolution is a guarantee of lower quality prints.

Your suggestion of resampling high pixel count images to a size that will reduce the PPI to lower than the printers native PPI is a technically very poor procedure. Resampling to a lower value is a very sharp low pass filter that removes high frequency detail (such as sharpening). And it is then always necessarily resampled back up to the native PPI rate for the printer anyway.

HP and Canon print at 300 PPI and Epson at 360 PPI, for example. Resampling a 36 MP image down to 12 MP and then printing it at any size from 11x14 on up is counter productive.
But it is not impossible for a person to distingui... (show quote)


Whatever, Floyd - your logic and interpretations never fail to defy common sense and practice, and your presentation, while sounding impressive, is double talk and obfuscation, mostly. You do make some good points from time to time, but when it comes to theory vs practice - your theory doesn't always result in better prints or images. You are free to enjoy your 300 or 360 ppi prints to your heart's content, with the knowledge that they will look great under that loupe you carry in your shirt pocket. :)

BTW, using your logic, my D800 with 7300x4900 resolution is only good for a 14x20 print with excellent quality - if I don't crop. At least one of us knows better than that.

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Jan 9, 2015 11:08:49   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Greenguy33 wrote:
I'm curious if there is a visible difference in IQ between a Nikon D610, D750 and D810?
Someday, I'd like to go full frame and was wondering which camera would work for someone who shoots nature and landscapes, with the possibility of someday shooting a wedding or event.


You are going to get different answers but the truth is that using the same lens it will be almost impossible to see the differences unless you make a mural.

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Jan 9, 2015 11:16:28   #
Greenguy33 Loc: Rhode Island
 
camerapapi wrote:
You are going to get different answers but the truth is that using the same lens it will be almost impossible to see the differences unless you make a mural.


:thumbup:

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Jan 9, 2015 12:11:46   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Gene51 wrote:
Whatever, Floyd - your logic and interpretations never fail to defy common sense and practice, and your presentation, while sounding impressive, is double talk and obfuscation, mostly. You do make some good points from time to time, but when it comes to theory vs practice - your theory doesn't always result in better prints or images. You are free to enjoy your 300 or 360 ppi prints to your heart's content, with the knowledge that they will look great under that loupe you carry in your shirt pocket. :)
Whatever, Floyd - your logic and interpretations n... (show quote)

So once again you cannot respond logically to a factual analysis demonstrating your opinion to be invalid, and have to resort to another of your gratuitous personal attacks.

It doesn't work Gene. What you said is incorrect. Period.

Gene51 wrote:
BTW, using your logic, my D800 with 7300x4900 resolution is only good for a 14x20 print with excellent quality - if I don't crop. At least one of us knows better than that.

That is your statement, and is utterly illogical.

Please pay attention and stop distorting clearly stated information and you'd have to admit that what I actually did say was a D800 can print "good quality" up to at least 28x40, and sometimes a bit more. And 24x36 can be excellent quality.

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Jan 9, 2015 12:13:16   #
Tracyv Loc: Del Mar, Ca
 
:thumbup:

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Jan 9, 2015 12:32:56   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Gene51 wrote:


You can downsample the D810 image from 7,360 x 4,912 (36 mp) to 4,256 x 2,832 (12mp) and still end up with more than enough pixels to print huge images. (bearing in mind that for a 24"x36" print a 6 mp image is fine).


Somebody (Gene) has got it. Yes. I used to print 20x30s all the time from my old D70 (6mp) With my D90 I was able to get more aggressive in cropping.

I once saw a 5x7 FEET image at a Nikon company booth. It was shot with a D70. Of course they had some amazing and fancy software Genuine Fractals on steroids.

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Jan 9, 2015 12:56:14   #
Hkhabe Loc: Carlsbad, CA
 
Kind of straying here from the original question re the 3 camera choices...

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Jan 9, 2015 14:20:16   #
jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon
 
If you have the finances go D810. I own the D800 and the D810. Both are very good cameras but the resolution on the D810 is better.
Jack

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Jan 9, 2015 14:23:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Greenguy33 wrote:
I'm curious if there is a visible difference in IQ between a Nikon D610, D750 and D810?
Someday, I'd like to go full frame and was wondering which camera would work for someone who shoots nature and landscapes, with the possibility of someday shooting a wedding or event.


You might compare them on DXOMark. Not sure if they have the D750 yet, though.

I doubt you'd be able to see differences due to the camera in any reasonable size printed images.

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Jan 9, 2015 14:32:07   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
jerryc41 wrote:


D750 wins per their criteria: http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon-D750-vs-Nikon-D810

I'd buy it over the D810 for the flip out screen and lighter weight.

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Jan 9, 2015 14:35:37   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
[quote=Gene51]For the record - 6 mp images viewed at "normal" distances look fine - since your eye cannot resolve the small details provided by higher resolution images - at "normal' distances. I have had prints made from a D70, uncropped, printed at 40x60 and shown in

:thumbup: Boone!

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Jan 9, 2015 14:36:23   #
Greenguy33 Loc: Rhode Island
 
MtnMan wrote:
You might compare them on DXOMark. Not sure if they have the D750 yet, though.

I doubt you'd be able to see differences due to the camera in any reasonable size printed images.


I did compare the 3 cameras on DxO. There is only a 4 point difference between the 3. I think the scores were like 97, 94, 93 (810, 750, 610). That's why I was wondering if there was a big difference between the 3, as far as IQ goes.

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