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Jan 2, 2015 08:12:24   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I will say this; people MISTAKE the swinging camera meter as if the lighting conditions are changing when they really aren't.

Don't confuse the two events.

I've found that light doesn't change NEARLY as fast as folks say it does.

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Jan 2, 2015 08:14:25   #
Wickspics Loc: Detroits Northwest Side. Cody High School.
 
Very seldom do I ever come off manual; for me this is best.

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Jan 2, 2015 08:56:24   #
HowardPepper Loc: Palm Coast, FL
 
The settings I use depend on what I'm shooting. If my camera is on a tripod, I am shooting in manual mode. If I'm shooting outdoors, in changing light conditions, I will use aperture priority or shutter priority (depending on the effects I'm trying to get).

I don't do much indoor shooting, and I don't shoot sports, so I leave my ISO in manual mode and adjust as needed.

Your decision to use a specific camera mode should have more to do with your vision for the photography you are doing at that moment, not what pros are doing.

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Jan 2, 2015 08:57:09   #
OviedoPhotos
 
There is no right answer to this query. I am in Aperture mode 99% of the time. Settings depend on where I am at f4 to f22, ISO is usually stuck at 800.

When I do headshots or studio work, usually manual.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:03:50   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
aisajib wrote:
I've been noticing lately that a lot of pros use Aperture priority mode when shooting outdoors. I'm not a blind followers of pros without any reason, and that's why I began to investigate why they shoot A mode most of the time.

It's obvious. It saves them time. Instead of having to figure out the exposure from three settings, using A mode allows them to use only two. (One if ISO is set to auto.).

However, I began using full manual mode despite the repeated failure to get the exposure right in the first few shots because I thought I was learning. "Over time, guessing the camera settings depending on the lighting condition becomes a second nature," I read somewhere.

But the other day I noticed, it's not happening. The light is so different and versatile that at the same place at the same time but in different days, the lighting changes. So does the camera settings. So ultimately, I'm relying on the camera's light meter to determine whether the shot is well exposed or not. I try to keep the lightmeter in the middle on the first shot, look at the back LCD, and then tweak shutter speed or ISO if required.

Lately it's bugging me, am I wasting my time? Indoors, I can't shoot in any auto because I use a Yongnuo manual flash and the camera seems to not know that the flash exists. So it exposes for the ambient light bumping up ISO to the highest or slowing down the shutter speed. So in indoors, I always shoot manual. Keep shutter speed between 80-100 and ISO within 400, and I change the aperture according to the flash (distance of the subject, flash power, etc).

But outdoors, that problem is non-existent. So I'm wondering, is there any reason why I should continue shooting in full manual and not semi-automatic?


Also, do you guys use auto ISO? I shoot manual ISO but I'm wondering if that's another area where I'm wasting my time. I'm just looking for your opinion -- professional or personal, between shooting full manual and semi-automatic.
I've been noticing lately that a lot of pros use A... (show quote)


Modern digital cameras are superb. In addition to having three modalities to meter the exposure they also have a color histogram. The rear LCD is not the best indicator to check the exposure.
I mostly shoot Aperture Priority selecting the aperture I need for depth of field. I use EC (exposure compensation) when necessary and I seldom look at the histogram.
I do use Manual Mode at times if confronted with a subject or lighting condition that requires more control. I do not rely on matrix metering but I rely on center weighted and spot meter for the exposure. I have used both modalities for a long time and I feel confident with them.
If you know metering and how to compensate the exposure I see nothing more practical than shooting Aperture Priority.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:04:21   #
canoneer
 
Assuming you are using digital camera and it has histogram, I suggest you try using the histogram. There are some good tutorials online on how to use it to set exposures consistently in manual mode. Maybe some other folks on the forum can add something.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:04:49   #
RiverNan Loc: Eastern Pa
 
Manual always for me.
I just like it.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:04:51   #
Peanut_the_cat Loc: Bradenton, Florida
 
aisajib wrote:
I've been noticing lately that a lot of pros use Aperture priority mode when shooting outdoors. I'm not a blind followers of pros without any reason, and that's why I began to investigate why they shoot A mode most of the time.

It's obvious. It saves them time. Instead of having to figure out the exposure from three settings, using A mode allows them to use only two. (One if ISO is set to auto.).

However, I began using full manual mode despite the repeated failure to get the exposure right in the first few shots because I thought I was learning. "Over time, guessing the camera settings depending on the lighting condition becomes a second nature," I read somewhere.

But the other day I noticed, it's not happening. The light is so different and versatile that at the same place at the same time but in different days, the lighting changes. So does the camera settings. So ultimately, I'm relying on the camera's light meter to determine whether the shot is well exposed or not. I try to keep the lightmeter in the middle on the first shot, look at the back LCD, and then tweak shutter speed or ISO if required.

Lately it's bugging me, am I wasting my time? Indoors, I can't shoot in any auto because I use a Yongnuo manual flash and the camera seems to not know that the flash exists. So it exposes for the ambient light bumping up ISO to the highest or slowing down the shutter speed. So in indoors, I always shoot manual. Keep shutter speed between 80-100 and ISO within 400, and I change the aperture according to the flash (distance of the subject, flash power, etc).

But outdoors, that problem is non-existent. So I'm wondering, is there any reason why I should continue shooting in full manual and not semi-automatic?


Also, do you guys use auto ISO? I shoot manual ISO but I'm wondering if that's another area where I'm wasting my time. I'm just looking for your opinion -- professional or personal, between shooting full manual and semi-automatic.
I've been noticing lately that a lot of pros use A... (show quote)


There is no need to shoot in manual mode unless you have a specific reason to do so. That might be because you want to use a specific shutter speed or a fixed and known aperture or a high or low ISO. Shooting in manual mode for no specific reason is pointless (some here may disagree) so with a good camera I would suggest you choose aperture priority mode (say f8) with a fixed ISO between 200 and 400 ASA. That would cover most "normal" shooting conditions. In low light, bright light, backlight subjects, fast moving subjects then that is different and you will need to shoot in manual mode to allow you to pick a 2nd setting for your camera (the shutter speed or ISO as well). Or you change to shutter priority mode. Manual is normally a last choice when there is no other way to get the shot because the camera is being fooled in some way, or you want a very specific result from it.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:05:33   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
aisajib wrote:
I've been noticing lately that a lot of pros use Aperture priority mode when shooting outdoors. I'm not a blind followers of pros without any reason, and that's why I began to investigate why they shoot A mode most of the time.

It's obvious. It saves them time. Instead of having to figure out the exposure from three settings, using A mode allows them to use only two. (One if ISO is set to auto.).

However, I began using full manual mode despite the repeated failure to get the exposure right in the first few shots because I thought I was learning. "Over time, guessing the camera settings depending on the lighting condition becomes a second nature," I read somewhere.

But the other day I noticed, it's not happening. The light is so different and versatile that at the same place at the same time but in different days, the lighting changes. So does the camera settings. So ultimately, I'm relying on the camera's light meter to determine whether the shot is well exposed or not. I try to keep the lightmeter in the middle on the first shot, look at the back LCD, and then tweak shutter speed or ISO if required.

Lately it's bugging me, am I wasting my time? Indoors, I can't shoot in any auto because I use a Yongnuo manual flash and the camera seems to not know that the flash exists. So it exposes for the ambient light bumping up ISO to the highest or slowing down the shutter speed. So in indoors, I always shoot manual. Keep shutter speed between 80-100 and ISO within 400, and I change the aperture according to the flash (distance of the subject, flash power, etc).

But outdoors, that problem is non-existent. So I'm wondering, is there any reason why I should continue shooting in full manual and not semi-automatic?


Also, do you guys use auto ISO? I shoot manual ISO but I'm wondering if that's another area where I'm wasting my time. I'm just looking for your opinion -- professional or personal, between shooting full manual and semi-automatic.
I've been noticing lately that a lot of pros use A... (show quote)

Pros shoot whatever mode gets them the shot. They'll use Manual mode, Aperture priority and Shutter priority. It really depends on lots of circumstances and personal preferences. Aperture priority is a great feature, but I personally only use it about 10-15 percent of the time. I'm generally more comfortable using manual mode. The goal is to achieve images you are happy with. Use the mode that best allows you to reach your goals and don't worry about anyone else.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:10:31   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Frank2013 wrote:
I very rarely move my setting from Manual.


I use auto iso when photographing moving outdoor subjects in variable light. Otherwise, I use manual.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:12:38   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Peanut_the_cat wrote:
There is no need to shoot in manual mode unless you have a specific reason to do so. That might be because you want to use a specific shutter speed or a fixed and known aperture or a high or low ISO. Shooting in manual mode for no specific reason is pointless (some here may disagree) so with a good camera I would suggest you choose aperture priority mode (say f8) with a fixed ISO between 200 and 400 ASA. That would cover most "normal" shooting conditions. In low light, bright light, backlight subjects, fast moving subjects then that is different and you will need to shoot in manual mode to allow you to pick a 2nd setting for your camera (the shutter speed or ISO as well). Or you change to shutter priority mode. Manual is normally a last choice when there is no other way to get the shot because the camera is being fooled in some way, or you want a very specific result from it.
There is no need to shoot in manual mode unless yo... (show quote)

There is also no reason to use Av mode either unless you have a specific reason for doing so since you can achieve equally good shots in full manual. I believe its really about which mode you are most comfortable using. For me, its manual mode which gives me greater control. Once you are experienced using manual mode its just about as fast as using Aperture priority, IMHO, but with somewhat greater control. There is certainly nothing wrong with Av mode. I use it 10-15% of the time, but enjoy and prefer using manual mode. The bottom line, there is no right answer.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:21:01   #
aisajib Loc: Dhaka, Bangladesh
 
camerapapi wrote:
Modern digital cameras are superb. In addition to having three modalities to meter the exposure they also have a color histogram. The rear LCD is not the best indicator to check the exposure.
I mostly shoot Aperture Priority selecting the aperture I need for depth of field. I use EC (exposure compensation) when necessary and I seldom look at the histogram.
I do use Manual Mode at times if confronted with a subject or lighting condition that requires more control. I do not rely on matrix metering but I rely on center weighted and spot meter for the exposure. I have used both modalities for a long time and I feel confident with them.
If you know metering and how to compensate the exposure I see nothing more practical than shooting Aperture Priority.
Modern digital cameras are superb. In addition to ... (show quote)


You said the LCD is not the best indicator to check the exposure. I assume histogram is. Then why do you seldom check the histogram? :/

Also, rear LCD may not be the best indicator of exposure, it is an important thing to see how sharp a photo is and how the overall color of the picture is. I almost always feel the shortage of this (my Nikon has just 240k dot resolution LCD, and most others have ~920k dot resolution LCD while almost all Canons from 550D onwards have 1 million+ dots resolution. That's one thing I hate about Nikon.)

How that affects my picture taking? Well, when I show first few photos to my model, it kinda dictates how the rest of the shoot goes. When they see that the pictures aren't as good (in fact they are, but thanks to the low-res screen, they look crappy), their motivation stops.

On a few occasions when the lighting was poor (resulting in the LCD to be better than in under the sun), the models see and like their photos, and their next poses are generally awesome.

It's a psychological thing that I noticed works between me and my models. That's why LCD is important to me. I'm thinking of getting a D5100 (from my current D3100) just for the LCD. It's not a camera upgrade, but that LCD is totally gonna be worth it. (I won't deny that I still think of switching to Canon. But oh all those lenses...)

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Jan 2, 2015 09:23:16   #
aisajib Loc: Dhaka, Bangladesh
 
mwsilvers wrote:
There is also no reason to use Av mode either unless you have a specific reason for doing so since you can achieve equally good shots in full manual. I believe its really about which mode you are most comfortable using. For me, its manual mode which gives me greater control. Once you are experienced using manual mode its just about as fast as using Aperture priority, IMHO, but with somewhat greater control. There is certainly nothing wrong with Av mode. I use it 10-15% of the time, but enjoy and prefer using manual mode. The bottom line, there is no right answer.
There is also no reason to use Av mode either unle... (show quote)


It's really interesting how there are some people who swear by full manual and some who do the opposite. I'm in the middle of figuring out which one works for me. I shot in Aperture Priority and Manual during a day-long photo shoot for a clothing store today and I'm still not sure which one worked. :/

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Jan 2, 2015 09:23:16   #
aisajib Loc: Dhaka, Bangladesh
 
Oh and thanks to all of you who have shared your experiences and how you shoot. :) I truly appreciate you participating in this topic.

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Jan 2, 2015 09:25:05   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Aperture priority works great. If the light is funky or you want to deviate from the recommended exposure for whatever reason, by all means, just override it or go full manual. It's just a matter of knowing how the meter reads the light and knowing when to deviate from the meter recommendation, in order to get a different look, mood, etc.

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