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Dec 16, 2014 11:33:00   #
jointerjohn
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have an old Sears table saw with a 1-HP motor, a Craftsman KS55BXFS-352. When I throw the switch, it just hums - and not even a familiar tune.
The power wires are wrapped around bolts and held down by nuts. The nut for the black wire will not tighten when it gets down to the wire. It just keeps turning - probably stripped threads.

It's at least 40 years old, and buying a new motor wouldn't be practical. Any ideas?


Try a drop of solder to connect the wire to the conductor post. If the saw works, you're done.

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Dec 16, 2014 11:39:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Indi wrote:
OK. Going along with Papa Joe's suggestion, maybe the blade is binding and needs lubrication. You could probably put some 3-in-one oil on the motor bearings and armature and try to free it up.

Nope. It all turns easily by hand.

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Dec 16, 2014 11:43:37   #
tlbuljac Loc: Oklahoma
 
borrow your neighbors and when you return it, make sure you give him yours and tell him it worked fine yesterday and today it just got "OLD"......he will understand :roll: :thumbup:

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Dec 16, 2014 11:50:19   #
tylerdan Loc: Bullard, Tx
 
Probably the starting capacitor needs replacing.

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Dec 16, 2014 11:51:55   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have an old Sears table saw with a 1-HP motor, a Craftsman KS55BXFS-352. When I throw the switch, it just hums - and not even a familiar tune.
The power wires are wrapped around bolts and held down by nuts. The nut for the black wire will not tighten when it gets down to the wire. It just keeps turning - probably stripped threads.

It's at least 40 years old, and buying a new motor wouldn't be practical. Any ideas?


This is a common problem with electric motors of all types. There will be capacitor on or near the motor. It will connect between the A/C wires. It will look like a cylinder with a wire coming out of each end. Many are silver in color. Be careful these are filled with a paste, and can be caustic. The use of the cap is to start the electric motor by charging up and then discharge a high voltage in the starter winding of the motor. This extra kick will start the motor turning, then the A/C voltage will keep it running. Replacement cost should be only a few bucks. Many times this is what goes bad in most electric motors used in saws, airconditioners, heaters, and furnaces. Good Luck.

B

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Dec 16, 2014 11:54:24   #
George II Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have an old Sears table saw with a 1-HP motor, a Craftsman KS55BXFS-352. When I throw the switch, it just hums - and not even a familiar tune.
The power wires are wrapped around bolts and held down by nuts. The nut for the black wire will not tighten when it gets down to the wire. It just keeps turning - probably stripped threads.

It's at least 40 years old, and buying a new motor wouldn't be practical. Any ideas?


Jerry, more than likely it could be the start capacitor.
Good luck, compared to the newer ones this is something worth fixing.

The "G"

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Dec 16, 2014 11:57:19   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
This is a common problem with electric motors of all types. There will be capacitor on or near the motor. It will connect between the A/C wires. It will look like a cylinder with a wire coming out of each end. Many are silver in color. Be careful these are filled with a paste, and can be caustic. The use of the cap is to start the electric motor by charging up and then discharge a high voltage in the starter winding of the motor. This extra kick will start the motor turning, then the A/C voltage will keep it running. Replacement cost should be only a few bucks. Many times this is what goes bad in most electric motors used in saws, airconditioners, heaters, and furnaces. Good Luck.

B
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Actually what the Cap does is cause a phase shift in the start winding. But if you like your explanation better OK

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Dec 16, 2014 11:59:00   #
Dick Z. Loc: Downers Grove IL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have an old Sears table saw with a 1-HP motor, a Craftsman KS55BXFS-352. When I throw the switch, it just hums - and not even a familiar tune.
The power wires are wrapped around bolts and held down by nuts. The nut for the black wire will not tighten when it gets down to the wire. It just keeps turning - probably stripped threads.

It's at least 40 years old, and buying a new motor wouldn't be practical. Any ideas?


If the motor has a capacitor, The capacitor may need replacement. It may be best to take it to a shop for repair.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:00:13   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have an old Sears table saw with a 1-HP motor, a Craftsman KS55BXFS-352. When I throw the switch, it just hums - and not even a familiar tune.
The power wires are wrapped around bolts and held down by nuts. The nut for the black wire will not tighten when it gets down to the wire. It just keeps turning - probably stripped threads.

It's at least 40 years old, and buying a new motor wouldn't be practical. Any ideas?


Time to buy a new one. With a new motor, you may solve the humming, and next time have something else occur that may cause a serious personal injury. Infrastructures do age.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:10:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tlbuljac wrote:
borrow your neighbors and when you return it, make sure you give him yours and tell him it worked fine yesterday and today it just got "OLD"......he will understand :roll: :thumbup:

I suspect he already did that with mine. :D

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Dec 16, 2014 12:13:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
thom w wrote:
Do you own an ohmmeter.

Yes, I do, but I didn't, this would be a good excuse to buy one. :D

How do I test the capacitor? It's 216-259 MFD.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:22:26   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I do, but I didn't, this would be a good excuse to buy one. :D

How do I test the capacitor? It's 216-259 MFD.


You can't test the value with an ohmmeter but you can see if it functions. When you put the ohmmeter leads on the Cap it should start by showing low resistance and you should see the resistance increase until it shows open or infinity. Also some meters actually have a capacitance feature and if yours does just follow the instructions.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:44:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
thom w wrote:
You can't test the value with an ohmmeter but you can see if it functions. When you put the ohmmeter leads on the Cap it should start by showing low resistance and you should see the resistance increase until it shows open or infinity. Also some meters actually have a capacitance feature and if yours does just follow the instructions.

Using a digital meter set to 20M, It reads a pretty steady 5.38, varying slightly. It stays at 5.37 - 5.40.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:47:01   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
jerryc41 wrote:
As a last resort, I'll bring it to a place in town that repairs electric motors, but I don't want to put a lot of money into this. I have a good table saw, so this one was just for rough work. I could buy a new 10" table saw for less than the price of a new motor. I wouldn't spend more than $50 on this.


If it's an old motor, it might have capacitive start and then there's a capacitor located in the electrical connection box on the motor that might be burned out. Replacement of the capacitor is cheap enough as long as the windings of the motor or the bearings aren't trashed.

Some old motors also have carbon block contacts that wear out after time. Those may also be capable of replacement.

A good motor shop can rebuild the whole motor for you.

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Dec 16, 2014 12:59:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
singleviking wrote:
If it's an old motor, it might have capacitive start and then there's a capacitor located in the electrical connection box on the motor that might be burned out. Replacement of the capacitor is cheap enough as long as the windings of the motor or the bearings aren't trashed.

Some old motors also have carbon block contacts that wear out after time. Those may also be capable of replacement.

A good motor shop can rebuild the whole motor for you.

I haven't been able to find a similar capacitor online. It's 110v, 216-259 MFD, and it measures 3 3/8" long X 1 7/16" diameter.

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