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Dec 12, 2014 12:35:59   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I use my laptop for editing a little over half of the time, no problems. But I use iPad for viewing only; I want a little more editing precision than I can get with the iPad.

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Dec 12, 2014 13:36:12   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
burkphoto wrote:
See the theme, here? A good, powerful laptop might cost 50% to 150% more than a desktop with the same features, but you can do your work anywhere.

Multiple monitors? No problem.

Plenty of RAM? Check.

Fast graphics? Available.

Hard drive storage options galore? Si, Señor.

Multiple operating systems to accommodate all your current and future software needs? At least two different ways to do that — Virtually and Natively — can be had on a Mac (but not on a Windows box if you need Mac OS X).

The key is how you connect your PC laptop or Mac notebook. With a Lightning connector, USB3, WiFi 802.11N ac, and the appropriate adapters, you can add monitors, hard drives, NAS, whatever you want. A good computer store consultant can steer you to solutions that work for you.
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This is not 100% true.. With a laptop, you are giving up the ability to expand and otherwise add features to your system in the interest of portability. With my desktop, I can add memory, hard drives, video cards additional monitors, and other peripherals as wanted or needed. With a laptop (regardless of whether it is Mac or PC) it is much more difficult if not impossible to expand or modify beyond the limits of it's portable case. This is even true of laptops with a base station to a lesser degree. With my desktop, I can, at my pleasure, even change processors within reason. I can even change mother boards as the situation warrants if I want. And, my desktop computer is water cooled and much, much faster than any of the portables. This is why I carry a laptop just capable enough to handle my travels. I also have a WD 4tb Cloud HD so that if I want and am in an area where I have good Wi-Fi capability, I can upload my pics to home during my travels. Sure, I could spend the extra money and get a more capable laptop, but it would still pale in comparison to working on my wife's desktop, much less mine. And all are running Adobe software, so there is no loss from laptop to desktop to finished product.

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Dec 12, 2014 17:49:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Fine if you need it, or have a "home base" or office. By there is precious little that can't be done with externals these days, which is why the Mac Pro is a tiny sealed box.

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Dec 12, 2014 18:41:00   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
burkphoto wrote:
Fine if you need it, or have a "home base" or office. By there is precious little that can't be done with externals these days, which is why the Mac Pro is a tiny sealed box.


Yes it is a sealed box that is almost totally proprietary. Nearly everything must be purchased and installed by a Mac Store or Authorized Mac service center. Don't get me wrong, Mac is a very good system, but there is very little reason any more the pay the Apple tax for a computer.

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Dec 12, 2014 19:03:58   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
I use a laptop with a 21" monitor attached, both calibrated bi-weekly. that way, I can have LR on one screen and PS on the other. My laptop rarely, if ever leaves my desk. I have a second laptop and a tablet if I need to go mobile.

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Dec 12, 2014 21:42:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Yes it is a sealed box that is almost totally proprietary. Nearly everything must be purchased and installed by a Mac Store or Authorized Mac service center. Don't get me wrong, Mac is a very good system, but there is very little reason any more the pay the Apple tax for a computer.


I have used Windows and Mac OS or OS X since their inception. The reason I use Macs is OS X. It must be experienced side by side with Windows to appreciate the difference, and to understand why it is so much more appealing.

I use Macs because the tool does not get in the way of the task. I use Windows only when necessary, now, because it almost always gets in the way.

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Dec 13, 2014 06:09:14   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
warrior wrote:
How many process their photos on lap tops. Likes or dislikes please.


I have both - find editing is faster on my desktop, and the 30 bit dual display system is just "right" for what I do.

Macbook, Alienware, Clevo - as long as they have 32 gb ram and SSD storage, they are pretty fast. Each support external displays, which helps with critical photo work. But I have found Mac to be the slowest and most expensive of the three - and the lack of internal storage to add a scratch disk and a storage drive, requiring you to use externals, jacks up the price and impacts the performance a bit. The differences are not significant, but even the premium prices Alienware represents a better value.

Clevo has an excellent screen, is available with 30 bit graphics card to drive external displays, can accommodate up to 3 hard drives in the case, has a nice wide gamut matte screen, and can take up to 32 gb ram. All that for around $2K - really hard to beat. Oh, there is a free lifetime warrranty, an other low cost extended support plans that are about half what the others charge. I have recommended these to a number of photographers who are happy users, some of which were former desktop users, and one former Apple user.

Desktop machines will be cheaper and just as fast, plus you have more hardware options to really fine tune your config.

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Dec 13, 2014 06:17:16   #
QuickShooter101 Loc: East
 
I have a 17" laptop HD with plenty of ram and a very fast SSD with PS CC installed . But I prefer using my self built very high text desktop which I have a 24" non-glare monitor and a Wacom tablet hook to it and using PS CC and a few other programs . Tommy

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Dec 13, 2014 06:39:49   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Stoshu wrote:
I try to process on my desktop as the resolution is much better. Unless you have a very high end laptop I feel you get more information out of a good monitor and desktop.


I have a high end Lenovo laptop with great monitor.

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Dec 13, 2014 07:01:15   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
burkphoto wrote:
I have used Windows and Mac OS or OS X since their inception. The reason I use Macs is OS X. It must be experienced side by side with Windows to appreciate the difference, and to understand why it is so much more appealing.

I use Macs because the tool does not get in the way of the task. I use Windows only when necessary, now, because it almost always gets in the way.


I also have used them side by side and have been an Apple systems designer and was one of the first 12 Lisa repair engineers. I was on Apple's Macintosh roll out and was one of Apple's National Accounts Representative for Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas. I was Also on Apples Dealer Advisory Board. My first Apple II had a Corvus 10 MB hard drive and ran CPM.Yes, I know Apple and I have been PC since the early DOS days and worked for Magnetic Peripherals and Seagate (which is why I will only buy Western Digital) as a design engineer. But, if you are happy with your Mac, by all means, Enjoy. you help keep my Apple Stock inflated. (By the way, Wozniak was the brains of Apple, Jobs was just a good business man that happened to live next door to him.

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Dec 13, 2014 07:21:48   #
Treepusher Loc: Kingston, Massachusetts
 
I use a Samsung i7 laptop, 16 GB RAM, and a fourteen inch hi res display. Maybe a desktop would work better, but as I spend a lot of time both with Photoshop and UHH, the laptop lets me be with my family while I work. Is it perfect? No, but it gets the job done adequately for my own needs, and I'm not anchored to a desk.

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Dec 13, 2014 07:29:30   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Treepusher wrote:
I use a Samsung i7 laptop, 16 GB RAM, and a fourteen inch hi res display. Maybe a desktop would work better, but as I spend a lot of time both with Photoshop and UHH, the laptop lets me be with my family while I work. Is it perfect? No, but it gets the job done adequately for my own needs, and I'm not anchored to a desk.


That's why I use both a laptop when out and about for quick and dirty, and a desktop for everything else.. Plus, my desktop has four 4tb hard drives and tons of network attached storage. The laptop only had the 750 gb internal when out plus a 1tb usb and NAS (plus shared into the desktop) when home. Also the desktop has 32 gb of memory and the laptop only has 4gb.

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Dec 13, 2014 07:31:58   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
When I go on a trip a carry a laptop to download the cards from that day and save the photos on two external drives. I will PP in LR &/or PS a couple of images for my blog. But main work is done on my Desk top computer at home.

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Dec 13, 2014 07:34:52   #
mldavis2
 
Everyone's experience and preferences are different, so I'll wade in here.

I do not use Apple products - more expensive and far more proprietary, a corporate philosophy that I avoid. They are also problematic for compatibility with some of the other programs I run. Having said that, if price is no object and you're an Apple fan, enjoy. They are good at graphics, no better than a Windows machine depending on which interface you prefer.

I use a high end laptop on trips for viewing and temporary storage, but I never edit on a laptop. Additionally, it makes little sense to me to save space with a laptop and then have to carry around an extra box full of a decent keyboard and peripherals like extra storage devices, larger monitor, scanner, etc. I wait until I get home to my big desktop workstation and calibrated 24" monitor. My desktop machine is light years faster than any laptop (and both my laptops are "fast" i7 SSHD machines).

But if you must edit in the field, you have little choice, and you must make compromises either way you go.

And @dcampbell52, I never buy WD hard drives because of my horrible history of replacing dozens of them in the lab machines where I worked for 20 years. The Samsung HDs, when they made them, were the most reliable of any I used, and I still have a pair of 1TB Samsung drives running 14 hours a day for the past 7 years in my older desktop, long after a WD external failed. How interesting our individual experiences are ...

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Dec 13, 2014 07:52:05   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
mldavis2 wrote:
Everyone's experience and preferences are different, so I'll wade in here.

I do not use Apple products - more expensive and far more proprietary, a corporate philosophy that I avoid. They are also problematic for compatibility with some of the other programs I run. Having said that, if price is no object and you're an Apple fan, enjoy. They are good at graphics, no better than a Windows machine depending on which interface you prefer.

I use a high end laptop on trips for viewing and temporary storage, but I never edit on a laptop. Additionally, it makes little sense to me to save space with a laptop and then have to carry around an extra box full of a decent keyboard and peripherals like extra storage devices, larger monitor, scanner, etc. I wait until I get home to my big desktop workstation and calibrated 24" monitor. My desktop machine is light years faster than any laptop (and both my laptops are "fast" i7 SSHD machines).

But if you must edit in the field, you have little choice, and you must make compromises either way you go.

And @dcampbell52, I never buy WD hard drives because of my horrible history of replacing dozens of them in the lab machines where I worked for 20 years. The Samsung HDs, when they made them, were the most reliable of any I used, and I still have a pair of 1TB Samsung drives running 14 hours a day for the past 7 years in my older desktop, long after a WD external failed. How interesting our individual experiences are ...
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WD Enterprise drives are built like tanks - unlike their consumer versions like the ones they use in their portable and external drives.

Agree on the Samsung Spinpoint drives - I have an F3 that just runs and runs and runs - and it is fast. But my RAID has 4 - 2TB WD RE drives - also rock solid, and I like their overnight replacement, but I have to say I have never needed to use it.

Also agree on the processing speed - desktops are just faster especially when you consider similarly priced systems.

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