Can someone please tell me where in the Constitution it gives this SOB the right to do this! (Page 2): Not necessarily. For instance, buyers may be exempt but not supervise anybody...

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Robert Graybeal wrote:

Also, to be an 'exempt employee', you must have the ability and authority to hire and fire and supervise at least 2.

If you don't supervise and can't hire and fire, you can make a salary of 100,000 and still must be paid for overtime.

Not necessarily. For instance, buyers may be exempt but not supervise anybody else.

Also, exempt employees earn what is know as "comp" time, so if they need an hour or two to go to the dentist, they don't need to use sick time, or if they want a long weekend and have comp time accrued, they don't need to touch their vacation.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

You're right. And people on Salary generally get paid more & have more benefits such as more weeks of vacation & stock options.

Robert Graybeal wrote:

Don't forget, if you are on a salary, you are being paid for doing a job, whether it takes 30 hours or 60 hours.

When you are paid hourly, your boss owns every second of your time for the time you are at work.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Racmanaz wrote:

I think there might be a misunderstanding, lots of businesses do not pay OT to Managerial personnel because they are on a fixed salary. They can be required to work tons of OT without extra compensation, this can encourage business to take advantage of these employees. I'm I on the right track here or am I not understanding this?

Depends a lot on how much they make, like I said, when I was at assistant manager and below making a relatively small base I was paid 1/2 time for over time hours beyond something like 55 hrs, when I became a general manager making a solid salary that all went away, there was no overtime pay at all.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Blurryeyed wrote:

Actually when I first started in the restaurant business I worked for what we at the time, excuse the expression, "Chinese Overtime", and I agree with the president that the threshold should be higher than $23K but I do wish this pendejo would use congress to legislate instead of his executive bureaucracy.

That's very disingenuous of you as you know this congress will never do that.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

idaholover wrote:

I left a union job in a warehouse to go salary and inside sales then purchasing for a great company which opened a whole opportunity for me to eventually go from $5.00/hr union warehouse dead end job to own my own business and eventually 120K/yr. straight commission. That was over thirty years ago. Obama wants to take all those opportunities away with regulation and total control.

Where is it going to effect someone making over $120,000 a year.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

thom w wrote:

That's very disingenuous of you as you know this congress will never do that.

You don't know that. Also, why not figure out what a fair minimum wage would be since it hasn't been raised in awhile and then tie it to the c.o.l. that is given to ss recipients? I could go with that as a Republican.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

SteveR wrote:

You don't know that. Also, why not figure out what a fair minimum wage would be since it hasn't been raised in awhile and then tie it to the c.o.l. that is given to ss recipients? I could go with that as a Republican.

Wages need to be dictated by the market, not a bureaucrat that knows nothing about how the economy or businesses work.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

BigBear wrote:

Wages need to be dictated by the market, not a bureaucrat that knows nothing about how the economy or businesses work.

An awful lot of republicans don't even believe in a minimum wage.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

BigBear wrote:

Wages need to be dictated by the market, not a bureaucrat that knows nothing about how the economy or businesses work.

I think the minimum wage, however, probably should be adjusted more often at smaller rates rather than trying to raise it several dollars at one time. However, to attempt to leave it at its current rate would probably be like sticking your head in the sand.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

SteveR wrote:

I think the minimum wage, however, probably should be adjusted more often at smaller rates rather than trying to raise it several dollars at one time. However, to attempt to leave it at its current rate would probably be like sticking your head in the sand.

If Republicans fail to act on this issue, it will be one of those issues that may drive the voters BACK to the Democrats. So....my advice to those now in control of Congress....take care to listen to the needs of the people, within fiduciary and economic constraints.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

thom w wrote:

An awful lot of republicans don't even believe in a minimum wage.

I am conservative. 'Minimum wage' means it's a law. Not all laws work everywhere. That is the reason that the local markets need to dictate wages not law makers. That's the only way it can work.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

BigBear wrote:

I am conservative. 'Minimum wage' means it's a law. Not all laws work everywhere. That is the reason that the local markets need to dictate wages not law makers. That's the only way it can work.

Frankly, even as a Republican, minimum wage is needed to protect the individual worker from those who would take advantage of them when there are more workers than jobs. BigBear, using your reasoning, you could find people in Michigan who would go to work for practically nothing. There are hundreds of applicants for one job. So, I reject your "let the local markets dictate wages" when it comes to the lower end of the scale. Think back to the migrant workers of years ago before Cezar Chavez.

Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world

idaholover wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/01/white-house-plans-to-force-business-to-pay-more-overtime/

I always was an exempt employee, salaried, with a very large corporation. We never did nickel and dime the company for extra pay when leaving late a few minutes or even hours. Also no salary change to go for a Dr. appointment or family emergency. Always did get overtime compensation when coming to work on a project on a weekend.
Good system that only the government can screw up.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Increase the MW to $15.50 and listen to the stampede of willing workers crossing the southern border.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Jackinthebox wrote:

I always was an exempt employee, salaried, with a very large corporation. We never did nickel and dime the company for extra pay when leaving late a few minutes or even hours. Also no salary change to go for a Dr. appointment or family emergency. Always did get overtime compensation when coming to work on a project on a weekend.
Good system that only the government can screw up.

I don't think they're trying to screw it up. It just sounds like employers are taking advantage of the system by making lower level employees exempt....employees that really shouldn't be considered "salaried." Does that really sound right to you....just to save money for the company?