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Nov 29, 2014 20:18:13   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Let me ask you atheists something, what in ever are you going to do when I am finished posting about Creation/evolution subjects?? Are you going to get bored and have to figure out what to do with your extra FREE time?? LOL. I already have plans for my extra time, making better use of it with God in prayer and quiet time alone with Him. I hope you all find something to do as well, make it count. :)

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Nov 29, 2014 22:53:58   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
letmedance wrote:
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OldDoc, You must know by now that Evolution is Satan's snake oil. Rac will look at yor proof and dismiss it as evil lies produced by the Devil. He has rejected all proofs just as we reject all of his fractured science, tit for tat.

uote=OldDoc]It's the same old snake oil - give a wrong definition, then "prove" that by that definition your snake oil cures something. In this case, the wrong definition is of the second law of thermodynamics. Please see http://physics.about.com/od/glossary/g/entropy.htm for a more rigorous discussion of thermodynamics. The second law has to do with energy. In attempting to simplify the second law we often describe the loss of organization, but that is not the second law. So what they've done is to create their own second law of thermodynamics in which an open system cannot must undergo increased entropy, so cannot become more complex, and used that "law" to show that evolution is impossible. The second law does not say anything except that in a closed system thermal energy becomes distributed. That is what the second law says, and no amount of biblicizing can change that.

Now, let's deal with your assertion that it is proven that no new species have arisen. Take a look at the publications of Lenski, who, over a 30 year period observed the evolution of a new species of bacteria in the lab. As for the lack of transitional fossils, there are so many that I really am at a loss to reply other than to call BS on that assertion.
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Of course I know that Rac's mind cannot be changed by logical or scientific proofs. That isn't why I respond to him. My worry is that some naive reader will think that what he and his kind say is correct since there is no rebuttal. Anyone who reads this thread will readily see Rac's hands firmly clamped over his ears and hear the loud humming as he tries to drown out any view but his own.

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Nov 29, 2014 23:07:54   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
OldDoc wrote:
Of course I know that Rac's mind cannot be changed by logical or scientific proofs. That isn't why I respond to him. My worry is that some naive reader will think that what he and his kind say is correct since there is no rebuttal. Anyone who reads this thread will readily see Rac's hands firmly clamped over his ears and hear the loud humming as he tries to drown out any view but his own.


This is actually my thread post I created and anyone is welcome to voice their opinions or to refute, yet nobody really does refute they just whine and complain instead of having a dialog..well with the exception of you. So it is the people who post and complain in here and tell me to stop posting these subjects that are attempting to drown out my voice, you got it all wrong. I have never once told anyone in here to shut up and stop posting in here, I have however made the recommendation that if they do not like me posting these things then for them to decide not to click and comment on my on my posts. Not sure where you get the idea I am trying to drown anyone's voice, you seem to be just as delusional as them as well. You have turned a blind eye and ear to the opposing view yourself. I myself was indoctrinated with the fairy tale of Darwinian evolution for the first 25 years of my life, then I saw how it was the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the human race. Then I really saw the light, and that was Christ and His saving power and Hid truth. So to say that I am blind and give no credence to the opposing view is just plain false.

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Nov 29, 2014 23:57:33   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Rac,

OldDoc is an educated retired Professor of Biology, I am sure he has a deeper understanding than you or I. To dismiss the proof that he has handed you is tantamount to lying. I know you would not do that intentionally.


Reminds me of the Cajun Christian sitting on his rooftop after Hurricane Katrina. The water was lapping at the bottom of the roof and he looked up to heaven and Prayed to God to Save him. All was silent for a while and then another Cajun came by in a boat and said hop on, He looked up and said no thanks God will save me. The water was creeping ever higher and suddenly a Coast Guard helicopter was over head the pilot shouting let us help you, to which he replied, no thanks God will help me. The water creeped higher and higher until finally our Cajun was at the pearly gates and Met his Maker. He asked the almighty why his prayer for help was not answered, to which God answered , I sent a Boat, I sent a Helicopter, what more could I do.


Racmanaz wrote:
This is actually my thread post I created and anyone is welcome to voice their opinions or to refute, yet nobody really does refute they just whine and complain instead of having a dialog..well with the exception of you. So it is the people who post and complain in here and tell me to stop posting these subjects that are attempting to drown out my voice, you got it all wrong. I have never once told anyone in here to shut up and stop posting in here, I have however made the recommendation that if they do not like me posting these things then for them to decide not to click and comment on my on my posts. Not sure where you get the idea I am trying to drown anyone's voice, you seem to be just as delusional as them as well. You have turned a blind eye and ear to the opposing view yourself. I myself was indoctrinated with the fairy tale of Darwinian evolution for the first 25 years of my life, then I saw how it was the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the human race. Then I really saw the light, and that was Christ and His saving power and Hid truth. So to say that I am blind and give no credence to the opposing view is just plain false.
This is actually my thread post I created and anyo... (show quote)

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Nov 30, 2014 00:11:57   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
letmedance wrote:
Rac,

OldDoc is an educated retired Professor of Biology, I am sure he has a deeper understanding than you or I. To dismiss the proof that he has handed you is tantamount to lying. I know you would not do that intentionally.


Reminds me of the Cajun Christian sitting on his rooftop after Hurricane Katrina. The water was lapping at the bottom of the roof and he looked up to heaven and Prayed to God to Save him. All was silent for a while and then another Cajun came by in a boat and said hop on, He looked up and said no thanks God will save me. The water was creeping ever higher and suddenly a Coast Guard helicopter was over head the pilot shouting let us help you, to which he replied, no thanks God will help me. The water creeped higher and higher until finally our Cajun was at the pearly gates and Met his Maker. He asked the almighty why his prayer for help was not answered, to which God answered , I sent a Boat, I sent a Helicopter, what more could I do.
Rac, br br OldDoc is an educated retired Profess... (show quote)


Not so fast my friend, I have posted many many videos of biologists/scientist that gave evidence of creation and evidence against evolution yet you basically call them liars. So what is the difference, do you really think I am that stupid to fall for that reasoning you just yielded??? What if a scientists came in chat and posted evidence for Creation, does that automatically suggests you should lay everything down and submit to his/her evidence?????

Yous story can go both ways John. :)

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Nov 30, 2014 00:56:48   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
The problem we have Richard is that most of ,not all, the videos are from years past, science has moved on and some of these are no longer valid. The second problem is that we have different view point, I see the World as a Natural Phenomenon , one that has no beginning and no end. It was always here and will always be here. I can understand Infinity of time and space, I cannot explain it but a wise man once asked me" If you find the end of the universe and there is a brick wall there, what is on the other side", the only answer I could come up with was more space. Well that is when I understood.
You my friend see World as finite, and time as finite. You need a God to explain it. I am happy that you have found your salvation, I just worry that some day, some one will give you the proof you seek and you will lose that belief.
Good night Friend and may yor God Bless you.

Racmanaz wrote:
Not so fast my friend, I have posted many many videos of biologists/scientist that gave evidence of creation and evidence against evolution yet you basically call them liars. So what is the difference, do you really think I am that stupid to fall for that reasoning you just yielded??? What if a scientists came in chat and posted evidence for Creation, does that automatically suggests you should lay everything down and submit to his/her evidence?????

Yous story can go both ways John. :)

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Nov 30, 2014 01:02:50   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
letmedance wrote:
The problem we have Richard is that most of ,not all, the videos are from years past, science has moved on and some of these are no longer valid. The second problem is that we have different view point, I see the World as a Natural Phenomenon , one that has no beginning and no end. It was always here and will always be here. I can understand Infinity of time and space, I cannot explain it but a wise man once asked me" If you find the end of the universe and there is a brick wall there, what is on the other side", the only answer I could come up with was more space. Well that is when I understood.
You my friend see World as finite, and time as finite. You need a God to explain it. I am happy that you have found your salvation, I just worry that some day, some one will give you the proof you seek and you will lose that belief.
Good night Friend and may yor God Bless you.
The problem we have Richard is that most of ,not a... (show quote)


John, that's fine if you believe that and I have no issues that you do. Well except with one exception, that the world is eternal, no beginning and no end. I'm sure realize that is contrary to both Creationists and Materialist/Naturalist? Both sides believe this Earth has a beginning and and end. Hey to each his own, we both could be wrong and you right....who knows till we die? :)

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Nov 30, 2014 01:26:44   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
John, that's fine if you believe that and I have no issues that you do. Well except with one exception, that the world is eternal, no beginning and no end. I'm sure realize that is contrary to both Creationists and Materialist/Naturalist? Both sides believe this Earth has a beginning and and end. Hey to each his own, we both could be wrong and you right....who knows till we die? :)


Well Richard I think about it a lot and sometimes I hope I am wrong.

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Nov 30, 2014 01:28:52   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Dar·win·ism noun \&#712;där-w&#601;-&#716;ni-z&#601;m\
: the theory of Charles Darwin about how plant and animal species develop

Full Definition of DARWINISM

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: a theory of the origin and perpetuation of (new species) of animals and plants that offspring of a given organism vary, that natural selection favors the survival of some of these variations over others, (that new variations have arisen and may continue to arise by these processes), and that widely divergent groups of plants and animals have arisen from the same ancestors — compare evolution 4, neo-Darwinism
Dar·win·ism noun \&#712;där-w&#601;-&#... (show quote)

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Nov 30, 2014 01:33:00   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Not so fast my friend, I have posted many many videos of biologists/scientist that gave evidence of creation and evidence against evolution yet you basically call them liars. So what is the difference, do you really think I am that stupid to fall for that reasoning you just yielded??? What if a scientists came in chat and posted evidence for Creation, does that automatically suggests you should lay everything down and submit to his/her evidence?????

Yous story can go both ways John. :)


You have posted many videos containing nothing but nonsense and your so called scientific proof is just idiotic and i really think that you are that stupid.

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Nov 30, 2014 01:55:18   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
letmedance wrote:
Well Richard I think about it a lot and sometimes I hope I am wrong.


Hey John, out of curiosity....what was your first camera you ever had? was it a film camera?

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Nov 30, 2014 02:02:30   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Hey John, out of curiosity....what was your first camera you ever had? was it a film camera?

Yes it was film, it was an old Kodak folding camera, used 620 film, tri x I believe.

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