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Nov 20, 2014 20:29:14   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
GeorgeH wrote:
Tell it, brother! It seems almost impossible to have any sort of civil discussion with the snarling right wing, as you so aptly describe them. So many of these bozos respond with personal slurs, many of which if made in person would be "fighting words." It seems that this indicates a paucity of intellectual capital with which to respond. And facts? "Don' bother me with no sinkin' facts. We don' need no stinkin' facts!"


Couldn't have said it better. :-D

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Nov 20, 2014 21:08:07   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Nosaj wrote:
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. ....


Funny how dems love to claim history that is not their....

FDA started by a republican president

EPA.... Richard Nixon

FSLIC no longer exists as it went bankrupt and was rolled up into the FDIC and saved by Ronald Reagan.

Just to name a few of the glaring inaccuracies of your rant, probably not yours but stolen from someone else without attribution, good job!

As far as the other half of your rant much of it can hardly be claimed by liberals.

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Nov 20, 2014 22:07:59   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Danilo wrote:
It's really no surprise, Nosaj, that the best results are obtained with both parties properly represented. You speak at length of Joe's societal benefits, worked and fought for by "crybaby liberals" (your words), but there is another side to the coin. Someone must keep our economy strong (unlike Detroit, Oakland, Sacramento, Stockton, et al) to fund all of Joe's benefits. There must be thriving businesses to employ Joe and his friends. There must be evil McDonalds, and Walmart to get young people on the road to a career path of their choice.

And lest we deceive ourselves into thinking one party is better than the other, we must remember that, in their current incarnation, ALL politicians are blood-sucking, lying, stealing criminals that must be watched like a hawk, because they DO NOT have their constituents best interest at heart. Democrats and Republicans are just two varieties of the same thing. We DO need politicians, but we MUST NOT love them!
It's really no surprise, Nosaj, that the best resu... (show quote)


Explain to me about Sacramento's economy, the rest I'm aware of but there are explanations for each.

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Nov 20, 2014 23:41:00   #
outdoorphotoman Loc: Helena, .MT
 
HEART wrote:
...AND she opens her mouth again; and as usual, nothing but wasted air.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :lol: :lol:

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Nov 20, 2014 23:44:19   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Funny how dems love to claim history that is not their....

FDA started by a republican president

EPA.... Richard Nixon

FSLIC no longer exists as it went bankrupt and was rolled up into the FDIC and saved by Ronald Reagan.

Just to name a few of the glaring inaccuracies of your rant, probably not yours but stolen from someone else without attribution, good job!

As far as the other half of your rant much of it can hardly be claimed by liberals.


So, these things that you want to claim for Republicans, are you claiming that today's Republican party would support them?

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Nov 21, 2014 00:13:24   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
So, these things that you want to claim for Republicans, are you claiming that today's Republican party would support them?


Sure they support these things they just don't want to see them run wild.... It is not the republicans who have gone nuts, it is the liberals.... but you still refuse to get the message delivered earlier in the month.

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Nov 21, 2014 00:19:09   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Sure they support these things they just don't want to see them run wild.... It is not the republicans who have gone nuts, it is the liberals.... but you still refuse to get the message delivered earlier in the month.


So should the president lay down and play dead? Life continues.

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Nov 21, 2014 00:20:30   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Sure they support these things they just don't want to see them run wild.... It is not the republicans who have gone nuts, it is the liberals.... but you still refuse to get the message delivered earlier in the month.


Um, I'm pretty sure that today's republicans are calling for the elimination of the EPA and most regulatory agencies. Perhaps you didn't get the memo. Perhaps you also didn't get the memo that it is the republicans who have gone nuts, to the point where people like Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan would no longer be welcomed in todays Republican Party, but would be labeled communist.

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Nov 21, 2014 01:29:36   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Keenan wrote:
Um, I'm pretty sure that today's republicans are calling for the elimination of the EPA and most regulatory agencies. Perhaps you didn't get the memo. Perhaps you also didn't get the memo that it is the republicans who have gone nuts, to the point where people like Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan would no longer be welcomed in todays Republican Party, but would be labeled communist.


You perfectly illustrate my point, Eisenhower and Reagan would be adored by the republican party of today, Reagan especially is sorely missed as he was a true leader and principally driven, so much unlike our current leadership in DC... Nor would anyone actually eliminate any of the agencies you list, exercise control over these agencies and bring sanity back to our government, see to it that they serve the people of our country rather than use federal force and taxpayer funded attorneys to bully average Americans around.

You my friend are the one with a distorted view of reality, yes you can find a few insane quotes uttered by some republican politicians or some far right wing kooks, but one does not have to look past the leadership of the democratic party itself to find just as crazy instances of insanity....

Although we would welcome our leaders such as Reagan or Eisenhower, I am afraid that if the truth be told, it is your party that would run JFK clear out of town if he were to show up today.

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Nov 21, 2014 02:12:14   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Reagan raised taxes 13 times. How do you think that would go over with today's GOP?

Eisenhower supported top tax rates of over 70%. Look it up.

SHould we go down the list of Republicans calling for the elimination of the EPA?

1) Rick Perry
2) Ron Paul
3) Paul Ryan
4) Rand Paul

If I spend 10 minutes looking up other repubs who called for the shutdown of the EPA, I could probably come up with dozens more.

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Nov 21, 2014 06:45:20   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Keenan wrote:
Reagan raised taxes 13 times. How do you think that would go over with today's GOP?

Eisenhower supported top tax rates of over 70%. Look it up.

SHould we go down the list of Republicans calling for the elimination of the EPA?

1) Rick Perry
2) Ron Paul
3) Paul Ryan
4) Rand Paul

If I spend 10 minutes looking up other repubs who called for the shutdown of the EPA, I could probably come up with dozens more.


Typical Dem response, mostly without without relevance, so you name Rick Perry and two libertarians, as far as Ryan goes you need to support that with some citation because I don't think that you can support your claim, pretty certain that you are making that up out of whole cloth. Ryan opposed the EPA regulating greenhouse gases, but I am pretty certain that he never called for the abolition of the EPA.

As far as taxes go.... there is no comparison between the tax write offs of today and the tax code back when taxes rates were in the 70% range, but you dems love to pull that cat out of the bag... Do you actually believe that people paid a 70% rate? LOL give me a break. As far as Reagan raising taxes... you guys have so over played that card, so he raised taxes after an historic tax cut that that had added significantly to the deficit, he also knew how to work across the isle with a democratic congress, so rather than having a protracted fight Reagan knew how to give a bit to get what he wanted in the bigger scheme of things... something that the current occupant of the Oval Office shows no interest in. LOL Kennedy called for lower taxes to allow the American economy to grow and prosper, something abhorrent to today's democrat, he also instead of making cartoons of Julia asked American's for self sacrifice, to not ask what the country could do for them but rather what they could do for their country, certainly an unpopular concept with the party of "give me" today.

Dems.... Like I said Reagan would be welcomed by the republican party as would Ike, Kennedy would not be scorned by the party of Lenin today.

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Nov 21, 2014 07:31:54   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Keenan wrote:
Capitalism can only survive when there is a powerful nanny state to build the infrastructure, educate the work force, enforce private property laws, regulate and stabilize the boom and bust cycles of the financial markets, and redistribute the wealth that capitalism tends to aggregate into fewer and fewer hands at the top, depressing demand. Free market fanatics claim that if we can just eliminate the government and get it out of the way, capitalist utopia will finally be realized. But history shows that reality is the opposite. Capitalism quickly destroys itself without government to prop it up and serve all of those critical functions that the free market is not capable of handling.
Capitalism can only survive when there is a powerf... (show quote)


Government does not and cannot ever create anything.
Everything it possesses was taken from someone. Government has a role in peoples life as it was designed by people who knew what an unruly bunch of people can do.
The Constitution was written to keep government under the control of the people. It spells out clearly what it cannot do.
However, over time, the progressives have changed the definition of certain terms to worm it's way through the boundaries of the law. They created more bills that are written in a way that most politicians weren't able to read for themselves, which is a violation in itself. Things got so distorted that today the bills are thousands of pages long with riders and attachments that have nothing to do with the original bill that are voted on by people that have no idea what is in it and rely on what they are told by the creators what they say. And we know how forthcoming that can be. (remember Joe Wilson anyone?)

We now have a government that is so whacked out that the people no longer have control of it, but are now controlled by it. And a 'president' that is getting away with creating whatever laws he wants and ignoring the ones he doesn't like.

Are you happy living under a dictatorship ??

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Nov 21, 2014 09:31:19   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Funny how dems love to claim history that is not their....

FDA started by a republican president

EPA.... Richard Nixon

FSLIC no longer exists as it went bankrupt and was rolled up into the FDIC and saved by Ronald Reagan.

Just to name a few of the glaring inaccuracies of your rant, probably not yours but stolen from someone else without attribution, good job!

As far as the other half of your rant much of it can hardly be claimed by liberals.


The Republican party of today is not the same as it was when these things were done.

Even the old Republican party fought to block Social Security. They still are fighting it. They wanted to privatize it; that would have been a disaster when the stock market crashed.

The Republican party fought against Medicare in the '60s.
They said it wouldn't work and tried to gut it in 1995.

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Nov 21, 2014 09:36:03   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
BigWahoo wrote:
The Republican party of today is not the same as it was when these things were done.

Even the old Republican party fought to block Social Security. They still are fighting it. They wanted to privatize it; that would have been a disaster when the stock market crashed.

The Republican party fought against Medicare in the '60s.
They said it wouldn't work and tried to gut it in 1995.


LOL Were it privatized it would still have some money in the trust fund... Which is hardly the case as our government has stolen that money and left worthless IOU's in its place.... The fact of the matter is that SS is funded out of the current revenues and borrowing and not from the fictitous trust fund.

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Nov 21, 2014 09:45:17   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
LOL Were it privatized it would still have some money in the trust fund... Which is hardly the case as our government has stolen that money and left worthless IOU's in its place.... The fact of the matter is that SS is funded out of the current revenues and borrowing and not from the fictitous trust fund.


In 1983 Ronald Reagan rammed a bill through congress that allowed $2.7 billion dollars from the Trust Fund to be transferred to the General Fund.

Allen Greenspan was a major player in this rip off of the American people.

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