Mary Kate Loc: NYC

I shoot in Raw. Edit in LR/PS. then change over to JPEG and upload to say Shutterfly or another in kind service. I notice that the color and detail have been less than those that I have uploaded. Is there any way RAW or TIFF files can be uploaded? Do any online services provide for such formats?

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

The above reference (and the other one, that I've snipped) both say that it will process 16-bit data. Technically what that says is that if you input a 16-bit TIFF file it won't choke. It says nothing about maintaining a 16-bit workflow right down to the hardware.

In fact at least part of the driver is almost certain to maintain the 16-bit depth. But the data sent to the physical printer is 8-bit.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

You got it right.
Raw is your negative so protect it for future use as a tiff or jpeg as you desire.
I shoot in RAW with a low quality jpeg also created in camera so if someone wants a "picture" real fast it can be e-mailed easily as is. (Good enough for facebook or other locations for crappy photos of that type.)

FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.

Each manufacturer's raw format is different. I know of no online photo sites that support raw image display. And because TIFF files are so large, I also suspect that no online sites support their use either.

mikecanant Loc: Texas

Some cameras such as the Nikon D800 have an option of recording the original image as a tiff file, with no post processing required.

marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL

If you have a camera that can shoot in TIFF, yes, but not all cameras do so. I've only ever had one that did. Neither TIFF nor RAW are compressed files that lose anything, and RAW is more flexible during conversion to another format, so I don't see the point.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

As FredB said above. Apples vs Oranges. Plus TIF or tiff files are uncompressed though large they are universally viewable as are JPG or jpeg files. JPG files are like mp3 files, a lot of information is missing to make them small.

Raw are proprietary files that your camera creates. They are just that, exactly what the sensor saw, no processing but contain the most information. A few manufacturers like Pentax and Leica use Adobe DNG files as their Raw format. But like other Raw files you need Ps, Lr, PSE, and ACR to read them. But any version of ACR should work on any DNG file.

Personally I shoot in Raw (DNG) 14-bit, process in and save work in PSD 16-bit, and convert to jpg 8-bit for printing or Web publishing. And occasionally if passing them on to someone else or for high quality archiving, I'll save as TIF files.

redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif

I also had the question!

http://photo.net/digital-darkroom-forum/00aZtn

raw is still the way to go

Wendy2 Loc: California

No, I do not have Tiff confused with Raw. I understand that Raw is unchanged. I am talking about how to save the files.

Raw is not an image but lots of information, far more than a Jpeg file. After editing, if you save your file to Tiff, you retain all the steps you took in editing and can go back and make changes to those edits. If you edit a file and save it as a Jpeg, you lose all the steps you took in your editing process and can not tweak any of the previous edits.

Save to jpeg for the web or if you want a small file for emailing. Save to Tiff so that you can go back and make changes in the future. A Tiff file is considerably larger than a Jpeg file. Much too large to email in quantities.

Wendy2 Loc: California

The Jpeg file shows the editing that you have done, but you can not go back and tweak any of those steps. The Tiff file saves all your steps and you can tweak any of those steps after you have saved the file.

Wendy2 Loc: California

That's what I thought you meant and my replies addressed your restated question ;)

Wendy2 Loc: California

When I edit I use 8 bit. No need for 16 bit. The human eye can not tell the difference. I always save to Tiff so that I can make changes to the editing later if I see the need to do so.

Kuzano

Not necessarily. Not all camera's do the capture in Tiff (Tagged Information File Format).

When I was shooting Olympus DSLR, the camera offered options of Jpg, RAW, and Tiff. I seem to recall my Fujifilm S2, S3 and S5 Pro model DLSR's offered Tiff as an option.

Check your camera, or the manual for the possibility to shoot Tiff. You may have to shoot RAW and then convert to Tiff in the computer, with your editing software.

backroader Loc: Wherever we park our motorhome

FREDB:

Your explanations regarding this subject were very, very good, I thought!

FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.

Sorry, but the highlighted statement is not correct. When you edit a raw file, whether you save to TIFF or JPEG is immaterial. You are confusing the LOSSY (compressed) saves that happen to a JPEG file with the LOSSLESS (uncompressed) format of a TIFF file.

An edited raw file will always be re-editable, since the changes do not overwrite original data, but are saved as a sidecar or other mechanism.

UPDATE:
Ok, I've gone back over your original statement, my first reply, your response, and now my 2nd response. I am completely puzzled by your statement that TIFF files somehow retain all the editing actions that you make on them.

Are you saying that you can edit a raw file, make a bunch of changes to it, save the edited raw as a TIFF file, and then open the TIFF file and be able to UNDO the changes that were made while you were editing the raw file? That doesn't make any sense.

Or are you saying that you can open a TIFF file, make a bunch of changes, save it, then re-open it and undo those changes? Huh? I've never heard of this capability. I know all about the ability to UNDO in varying amounts, during a SINGLE session with various editors, but I've never heard of the ability to 'store' edits to a TIFF file and then re-open it, ostensibly days later, and UNDO those individual editing actions.

Now, it may be that your P/P program somehow saves actions done against a TIFF file, so that you can reopen that same file later and undo those actions, but that's a function of the P/P software, not a TIFF file generically.

I do not use Photoshop or any of its derivatives so perhaps that's where this confusion comes in?