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Oct 16, 2014 02:44:35   #
Madman Loc: Gulf Coast, Florida USA
 
Mogul wrote:
I think your comment about staying hydrated should be in all caps and bold face. As a former EMT, I have seen many people at air shows, fairs and other events who were practically unable to raise a camera, much less take effective photos when their problems would have been completely cured by a hat (even a beanie) and a couple bottles of water. As a car attendant on our summer excursion train, we are always on the watch for the person who is dehydrated, especially people who deliberately refrain from drinking water because they're not sure about making it through a 45 minute trip with no restrooms on board the train (top secret: we have a Port-A-Potty in a couple of cars; better to have to disclose this than to have a rider pass out because of false pride). If you frequent air shows (especially), fairs or concerts, familiarize yourself with the symptoms of heat exhaustion and heat stroke and act quickly.
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I have seen the results of dehydration on the tarmac at Mac Dill AFB in Tampa. Doesn't take long in 90+ degree temps without shade. People passing out and face-planting the deck is not a pretty sight.

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Oct 16, 2014 02:52:39   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Madman wrote:
I have seen the results of dehydration on the tarmac at Mac Dill AFB in Tampa. Doesn't take long in 90+ degree temps without shade. People passing out and face-planting the deck is not a pretty sight.

And the elderly are at risk for a totally unnecessary and unexpected death. One warning: keep some water at ambient (or slightly lower) temperature. Trying to rehydrate someone too quickly is touchy and dangerous; trying to do it with ice water can be fatal!

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Oct 16, 2014 03:53:33   #
Cockney Loc: London
 
Hi I have found that at air shows there is a tendency to use a very long lens. This makes your job harder as you are reducing the field of view and that makes tracking a fast moving target all the more difficult. I have found that no more than 300 a useful size keeping the shutter speed high, with a good shot and camera post processing will help produce a printable pic. Tripods and mono pods all restrict your movement too much.

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Oct 16, 2014 05:18:21   #
Sherman A1 Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Tough call, but I would carry along a monopod if available. I think the tripod would just be too much in a crowd. Now if you can get off to some corner of the field somewhere it might work, but people will all be looking up at the aircraft when moving about and you could very well end up with a tripod & camera in the dirt. You might also consider a smaller lens as an option as the one described will get heavy as the day goes on.

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Oct 16, 2014 07:05:17   #
juicesqueezer Loc: Okeechobee, Florida
 
dlmorris wrote:
I'll be going to an air show Sunday, where among other things, the Blue Angels will be flying. I'll take my Tamron 150-600. The question is, should I lug around a tripod and gemble head, or would it be better to just try for hand held?


Personally, with that size lens, I would opt for the monopod. I shoot RC airshows and full size as well. After a few hours, you will have wished you brought a monopod. No tripod, as it gets in the way.
Your shutter speed will vary as well. With props, you want to see the prop blur, as it shows motion. Panning on a plane and with a slower shutter speed gives the speed in the shot as well. For jets, I normally shoot around 1200 to 1600 shutter speed. Clear bright days, ISO at 125, white balance set to cloudy and I shoot in manual as well. I want more control on the camera and less chance to wrong setting. I carry two bodies and use the optech harness and have a pro belt to hold additional lenses around my waist. No camera bag while out there on the flight line. Too much else to worry about. Oh, on the first few shots, I do chimp, or whatever they call it. I'm not a pro, but pros do it all the time. Once you dial the camera in, your good to go.
Hope this helps! Good luck and bring plenty of water!







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Oct 16, 2014 08:58:59   #
dlmorris Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
 
Cool R/C shots! I'll try to post some of the shots I got at the air show soon. Nothing really great, but it was fun, and I did survive the heat! But appreciate the warnings, especially as I work outside a lot anyway.

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Oct 16, 2014 09:56:31   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
In general, the population has not learned the necessity of adequate daily hydration for health. Apparently, the schools do not teach this subject to produce a sound practice in hydrating oneself daily without fail.

Signs of dehydration: (1) chapped lips; (2) dark urine; and (3) dry skin.

Immediate remedy: Drink a quart (or two) of water. In a day or two, you can throw away your chap-stick.

You are dehydrated for sure if your throat opens to accept the water as if pouring it on the floor, with no drinking action.

Sound habit: Drink plenty of water every day for the rest of your life.

This advice means drinking water (H2O). It does NOT include beer, wine, soda, juice, drinks, coffee, tea, etc.

In fact, alcohol and caffeine induce water loss in the body, the opposite of hydration.

Drink water for hydration.
Mogul wrote:
I think your comment about staying hydrated should be in all caps and bold face. As a former EMT, I have seen many people at air shows, fairs and other events who were practically unable to raise a camera, much less take effective photos when their problems would have been completely cured by a hat (even a beanie) and a couple bottles of water. As a car attendant on our summer excursion train, we are always on the watch for the person who is dehydrated, especially people who deliberately refrain from drinking water because they're not sure about making it through a 45 minute trip with no restrooms on board the train (top secret: we have a Port-A-Potty in a couple of cars; better to have to disclose this than to have a rider pass out because of false pride). If you frequent air shows (especially), fairs or concerts, familiarize yourself with the symptoms of heat exhaustion and heat stroke and act quickly.
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Oct 16, 2014 12:01:15   #
redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif
 
anotherview wrote:
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This advice means drinking water (H2O). It does NOT include beer, wine, soda, juice, drinks, coffee, tea, etc.

In fact, alcohol and caffeine induce water loss in the body, the opposite of hydration.

Drink water for hydration.
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this also explains why ,when I drink 2 beers I p!$$ out 3!!!

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Oct 16, 2014 12:26:23   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Ha, ha. Been there, done that -- a thousand times. Finally stopped.
redhogbill wrote:
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this also explains why ,when I drink 2 beers I p!$$ out 3!!!

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Oct 16, 2014 12:27:26   #
Madman Loc: Gulf Coast, Florida USA
 
mdorn wrote:
All my shots are perfect! :)


We need to see some!

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Oct 16, 2014 17:03:53   #
juicesqueezer Loc: Okeechobee, Florida
 
dlmorris wrote:
Cool R/C shots! I'll try to post some of the shots I got at the air show soon. Nothing really great, but it was fun, and I did survive the heat! But appreciate the warnings, especially as I work outside a lot anyway.


Thanks! Look forward to seeing some of your shots!

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Oct 16, 2014 17:49:09   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
Madman wrote:
We need to see some!


Canon 50D, 1/2000s, f/5.6, ISO 320, EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 IS, hand held.

F-16
F-16...
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Oct 16, 2014 17:55:54   #
dlmorris Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
 
Cool! None of mine will be that good, but I'll post a few anyway!

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Oct 16, 2014 19:11:57   #
stumbo Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
dlmorris wrote:
I'll be going to an air show Sunday, where among other things, the Blue Angels will be flying. I'll take my Tamron 150-600. The question is, should I lug around a tripod and gemble head, or would it be better to just try for hand held?


Here's a few more of the Blue Angels I shot in San Francisco during Fleet Week in 2009 and 2012 I thought you might enjoy.







I like the sea gull flying along side
I like the sea gull flying along side...

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Oct 17, 2014 01:20:53   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
stumbo wrote:
Here's a few more of the Blue Angels I shot in San Francisco during Fleet Week in 2009 and 2012 I thought you might enjoy.

At least POTUS can't ground the seagull.

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