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Sep 28, 2014 07:50:05   #
ponderingjoe Loc: Cape Cod, Massacusetts
 
I spent to many years in Vietnam to not have ALL my rights as an American to be given to me.
Erv
Sorry for the rant, but folks have to start standing up for their rights!![/quote]

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Sep 28, 2014 08:01:37   #
docphoto Loc: Illinois
 
David Kay wrote:
You would think they would be more suspicious of camera phones. Easy to conceal that you are taking photos. Hard to be inconspicuous with a DSLR and a tripod. LOL. It really is difficult to hide a DSLR in your shirt pocket.


Agree...but everybody has a cell phone camera.
I see you with your 4x5..that's shows you are a serious professional...correct ? I guess it's all in appearance and your personality and your approach.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:04:50   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
I frequently photograph my granddaughter (green headband) at soccer games. I never thought of this as a problem, have never been challenged. Maybe at my age I look harmless. One other parent was also taking pictures with DSLR.


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Sep 28, 2014 08:09:52   #
docphoto Loc: Illinois
 
Robert R wrote:
I frequently photograph my granddaughter at soccer games. I never thought of this as a problem, have never been challenged. Maybe at my age I look harmless. One other parent was also taking pictures with DSLR.


Right but it was your grandaughter...but as a stranger taking photos of kids is a little bit different.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:10:12   #
Don Craig Loc: Saranac, NY
 
Mr PC wrote:
I need to be more careful. I have a white beard and a camera. I'll bet I fit some profile...


Pervert.

Me too.

:-D

The son of a friend of mine was stopped by police for taking night pictures of Plattsburgh City Hall. This is an historic building that is especially lit at night. He was on a public street, well lit, taking pictures of a public building. Maybe it was the big honking Sony he was using that looks like a grenade launcher. The police questioned him for 20 minutes.
I went into town last week with my DSLR to take night pictures: bar fronts with pretty neon lights, and City Hall. There were people on the street, but nobody looked twice at me. I have also made up business cards (I'm not a professional) that I will be happy to hand out to anybody who asks.
I also move fast and don't linger, loiter or lurk. :-D
It's a sign of our times. As a member of the Coast Guard Auxiliary, we teach boaters to report any suspicious activity they see on the water: such as people on boats parked under a bridge taking pictures, power plants, military vessels, etc.
It cuts both ways.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:18:32   #
Bill gomberg
 
Nonsense . The police have no such rights and surrendering meekly to such behaviour by police contributes greatly to what has become a rapid erosion of civil rights in so many parts of the world .

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Sep 28, 2014 08:19:40   #
Marilyng Loc: Lorain,Oh.
 
fjrwillie wrote:
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured it was a good opportunity to practise some night time techniques using only manual mode. This is thanks to you all for recommending reading Understanding Exposure. I was a A type person before. To keep things simple used a prime 35.

So I taking pictures of the colorful rides and the folks having fun at the carnival. I was politely stopped by the police and was asked what I was doing. Simply told them taking pictures of the event. They said some of the parents had complained about me.

WOW...this happens to other folks. We had a brief discussion. One officer said if I wasn't with my SO, he would have asked to me leave. I told him I would stop taking pictures of people and focus on objects. He seemed to be ok with that. It was not too long after that we did leave anyways.

This got me thinking, no doubt it was a mother that got freaked out. What did that one person think a pedophile or some other malcontent was going to do with the pictures of the their kids in an evil way. As a parent not sure how I would have reacted (my kids are grown up and I don't have to worry about stuff like this). Is this simply something they have seen or read in the news that should be reported and action taken on or do they have valid reasons to react this way.

Just wonderin

Willie
Last night I went to a local carnival and figured ... (show quote)


I have never had that happen to me yet!Sorry to say, but maybe it's a "guy thing".it's sad but we Mom's are so paranoid anymore about the safety of our kids that we just freak out when we see strangers by them!

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Sep 28, 2014 08:23:52   #
Bill gomberg
 
Amen . BUT ,maybe too late .

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Sep 28, 2014 08:24:48   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
What you all are doing is commonly called street photography and street photographers use small cameras like leica, canon g 16, nikon v1 etc. People don't seem to care about small cameras.

BTW I always ask permission to shoot children because I don't want to be shot myself by some yoyo packing a gun.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:31:20   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Erv wrote:
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and craft shows. I carry a card with my name on it ,email and home address and phone number on it. I have the card to give folks if they want a picture I have taken of them. :) But you have to know I am very hard headed about my rights as an American.:) But I always win the battle with the police. Or who every comes up to me and tells me I can't take pictures.:) They have to show me their rules for the event and if it says no cameras, I back down. But I always get my money back if I have to leave and it is not posted at the gate that cameras aren't allowed.
I spent to many years in Vietnam to not have ALL my rights as an American to be given to me.
Erv
Sorry for the rant, but folks have to start standing up for their rights!!
It has happened to me a few times at fairs and cra... (show quote)


Erv,

I am so proud of you. Many Americans do not stand up for their rights these days. Our freedoms are eroding at an alarming rate because of the fact that some Americans just knuckle under and give up their rights.

Thanks, Erv, and everyone else on the forum for offering to give all for America.

Dennis

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Sep 28, 2014 08:41:32   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
DavidPine wrote:
Erv, I, too, am a Vietnam vet. I fully intend to exercise my rights. When children are involved, however, I am careful because of todays social environment. I think it's crappy that when you say hello to a youngster that many won't make eye contact or return the courtesy. I think this is an illness within our society that has been carried too far. I do think parents should teach their children to be careful and how to protect themselves but they still need polite social skills taught.


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Sep 28, 2014 08:41:35   #
ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA
 
Some people are just crazy, and the police have to try to keep the peace, even with the crazy ones. I was taking pictures at an intersection once, and some idiot woman complained to the police that I had taken a picture of her in her vehicle. (Don't know if I had or hadn't.) A police officer came and asked me what I was doing. After I showed him my credentials and explained what I was doing, he left me alone. But why people expect privacy in public places is beyond me.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:46:10   #
jjadeco25 Loc: Alma, AR
 
I agree with you 100%. I was approached by a mother of a teenage daughter when I was taking pictures of an event that my granddaughter was in. I immediately apologized and told her who I was, but during the entire event, she and her 4 friends kept complaining that they did not know why I should be taking pictures, what kind of person was I to take pictures of other children. She said she was going to call the authorities. Instead of leaving, I stayed and watched my granddaughter and didn't take any other pictures of her. But an announcement came over the loud speaker that photos were encouraged and if we could send them to the event coordinator so that they could use them to promote the event. BTW, after the announcement, these women left and sat somewhere else.
In the long run, I didn't get angry, storm out and miss my beautiful granddaughter perform, I did miss out on taking treasured shots of my little pumpkin because of this horrible woman.
And in the end, I sent one of the pictures to the event coordinator who used it on their website and was shaken and upset knowing it will be another year before I see my grandchildren again.
craggycrossers wrote:
It's a "sign of our times", I'm afraid, Willie. Happened to me too in Old Market Square, which is effectively the city centre of Nottingham. I was "approached", in a very civil manner by two young (no more than 30yrs) "Community Protection Officers". They look like police, but don't have the same levels of power.

I wasn't even taking pics of kids ...... there were just great, colourful, photo opps in all the rides etc, and it was "twilight". I was asked much the same as you, was totally baffled by the fact that they'd even approached me, and was given much the same reasons as you. Needless to say I had an "interesting" conversation with these two about "modern folk (especially certain young mothers) jumping more quickly to negative conclusions and becoming more immediately suspicious of middle-aged men with cameras !" They readily agreed with me, but only AFTER our little chat.

Old Market Square is regularly use for all sorts of communal events, many of which provide photo opps. You live and learn. I, too, avoid taking pics of children.

Sign of the times, dear chap ...... !
It's a "sign of our times", I'm afraid, ... (show quote)

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Sep 28, 2014 08:46:10   #
Don Craig Loc: Saranac, NY
 
Bill gomberg wrote:
Nonsense . The police have no such rights and surrendering meekly to such behaviour by police contributes greatly to what has become a rapid erosion of civil rights in so many parts of the world .


Oh I agree completely, but it's becoming a contest between civil rights and perceived threats to public safety. I'm on the side of civil rights. Perceived threats to public safety is a bogeyman exploited for more governmental control.
That's why I took my own night trip to see if I would be challenged.

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Sep 28, 2014 09:05:08   #
skywolf
 
I agree. Always be civil, but if you have a right to take pictures, exercise it.

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