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Sep 15, 2014 12:27:34 #
user47602
Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
EdJ0307 wrote:
at least he's honest Well, Donna, I would rather be stupid and narrow-minded, petty and judgmental...
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Sep 15, 2014 12:43:20 #
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Sep 15, 2014 12:44:55 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
James Shaw wrote:
I hope you are right. I would love to see wind and solar grow in America and outpace that in Europe and elsewhere. I would love to see more solar and for it to become even more efficient.
I have seen a large solar farm between Nashville and Memphis.
I have seen a large solar farm between Nashville and Memphis.
My answer is based more on feeling than fact. Here in AZ, solar is growing at an amazing rate for residential and commercial, so much so that our major provider for electricity, while advertising their support for solar, is now asking our corporation commission that they be allowed to buy back (credit) excess kilowatt hours generated by solar panels, back at a further reduced rate. Solar is obviously affecting their bottom line, which leads to an interesting point. Profit vs. the overall benefit to the people. Certainly not new, but it provides some insight into government run and owned projects like Germany's ocean based wind farm.
Don't quote me but I believe we pay about .10-.11 per Kilowatt Hour. They were buying back (crediting) at about .02 per KH.
If memory serves correctly, they were asking to credit back at a new reduced rate of less than .01 per KH. The fear is at some point, it will not be cost effective for them to have us as solar customers as rates climb. Although I do not see that happening in my lifetime, it is a concern.
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Sep 15, 2014 12:49:44 #
gotta wonder why florida "the sunshine state" has so little solar usage.
when you start to look you find out all the state electric companies lobby against it for obvious reasons. germany is at 20% solar and they don't have anywhere near the sunshine we have!
so our political leaders are either dumb or bought off - i wonder which it is? :?:
when you start to look you find out all the state electric companies lobby against it for obvious reasons. germany is at 20% solar and they don't have anywhere near the sunshine we have!
so our political leaders are either dumb or bought off - i wonder which it is? :?:
Sep 15, 2014 12:55:05 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
jvo wrote:
gotta wonder why florida "the sunshine state" has so little solar usage.
when you start to look you find out all the state electric companies lobby against it for obvious reasons. germany is at 20% solar and they don't have anywhere near the sunshine we have!
so our political leaders are either dumb or bought off - i wonder which it is? :?:
when you start to look you find out all the state electric companies lobby against it for obvious reasons. germany is at 20% solar and they don't have anywhere near the sunshine we have!
so our political leaders are either dumb or bought off - i wonder which it is? :?:
It is due in part to our country being controlled by corporate sponsored lobbyists who support re-elections of those that support their efforts for greater profits. It's nothing more than legalized bribery, so I would say your remark "bought off" is appropriate.
Sep 15, 2014 13:08:24 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
That's because the mindset on UHH is older than the majority of people who vote. These are very regressive, elderly thinking, military, christian men. They think the government should be run according to the bible. You know, a little loopy! LOL
Silly statement at best.
Silly statement at best.
Sep 15, 2014 13:08:50 #
EdJ0307 wrote:
Well, Donna, I would rather be stupid than narrow-minded, petty and judgmental like you are, dudette. :?
HA! From this simple, and I do mean simple, response, I can tell that my original words described you correctly. Thank you for making me feel good, next to you, I'm a Rhodes scholar. Yeah, you are stupid, glad it's not a stretch for ya, dude.
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Sep 15, 2014 13:12:26 #
venturer9
Loc: Newton, Il.
James Shaw wrote:
There are plenty of conservatives, liberals and communists in man's jails for breaking man's law. Don't think one group stands out more than another in that respect.
Now James, how can a red headed dog have such common sense.... amazing.... lol
Mike
Sep 15, 2014 13:39:54 #
Comment as originally posted by me:
Comment as plagiarized and rewritten by user47602:
And user47602's subsequent post:
EdJ0307 wrote:
Well, Donna, I would rather be stupid than narrow-minded, petty and judgmental like you are, dudette.
Comment as plagiarized and rewritten by user47602:
EdJ0307 wrote:
This conduct is typical of liberals. Rephrase people's comments so that they say something completely different.Well, Donna, I would rather be stupid and narrow-minded, petty and judgmental...
And user47602's subsequent post:
user47602 wrote:
at least he's honest
Sep 15, 2014 13:40:27 #
sirlensalot wrote:
It is due in part to our country being controlled by corporate sponsored lobbyists who support re-elections of those that support their efforts for greater profits. It's nothing more than legalized bribery, so I would say your remark "bought off" is appropriate.
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Sep 15, 2014 13:43:45 #
venturer9 wrote:
Now James, how can a red headed dog have such common sense.... amazing.... lol
Mike
Mike
Ha! Me dog says "thanks."
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Sep 15, 2014 14:02:47 #
EdJ0307 wrote:
Comment as originally posted by me:
Edward, I'd really like to stay and impart more of my brilliant wit upon you but I have to go watch MSNBC, they talk to us in code...but you knew that, didn't ya, dude.
Sep 15, 2014 14:10:16 #
BigWahoo wrote:
A quote from John Dean; one of Nixon's boys. br b... (show quote)
I think you forgot to mention war mongering.
Sep 15, 2014 14:26:00 #
Fla Walt wrote:
I think you forgot to mention war mongering.
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Sep 15, 2014 14:26:43 #
James Shaw wrote:
What you say, "the biggest hoax" I heard... (show quote)
Solar electric in My state is a no brainer. MY son had it installed on his roof and it has lowered his electric bill by $200 a month! If I wasn't moving to a smaller house I would do it in a heart beat and will when settled! I am referring to the lease option that places maintenance issues on the installation company.
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