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Ben Carson Slams Jesse Jackson's Race Theory on Ferguson
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Aug 25, 2014 14:37:16   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Dr. Ben Carson went toe-to-toe with the Rev. Jesse Jackson on "Fox News Sunday" over the shooting of teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, after the civil rights activist argued that the incident happened because of race.

The conservative neurosurgeon, whom many believe has a big political future in the Republican party, shot down Jackson's conclusion that the Brown shooting was part of a pattern of violence that had yielded little justice for black youth, The Daily Caller reported. Jackson had described the shooting in Ferguson, which has sparked riots and a federal investigation, as a "state execution."

“Whether it was the killing of Trayvon Martin, the killer walked away free, the killing of [Amadou] Diallo in New York, shot 41 times by police, they walked away free. The Oscar Grant case in Oakland, or the case of Rodney King in L.A. At some point, we require and need to have a sense of justice,” Jackson said of the case. “All we do know about Mike Brown is, really, he was shot unarmed six times.”

Carson, who defied stereotypical odds to move from poverty to become a world-class neurosurgeon, was having nothing of Jackson's position. He shared his own struggles to move from a place of anger to a self-reliant position of prosperity, Real Clear Politics noted.

"You know, as a youngster, you know, I had anger problems also. But for the grace of God, I wouldn't be talking to you today," Carson told host Chris Wallace. "I tried to stab another youngster with a knife. A belt buckle saved him. You know, anger issues get in the way."

He added: "If you take race out of the issue altogether and you take a group of young men and you raise them with no respect for authority, not learning to take on personal responsibility, having easy access to drugs and alcohol, they’re very likely to end up as victims of violence and incarceration. Has nothing to do with race."

Carson also defended law enforcement, noting that the issue is larger than it has been portrayed in the media, where criticism has been leveled against police and journalists.

"I think the issues are really much bigger than what has been portrayed to be," Carson said. "And it can't be resolved in a short segment like this. But, you know, I've seen police excesses living in inner city Detroit and inner city Boston. But I've seen a lot more situations where the police saved the situation. And I'm not sure that this is a police versus black community issue."

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And once again Dr. Ben Carson exhibits his calm, reasoned and intelligent arguments for all to see. This man is rising rapidly in many smart peoples minds as a man that could lead us out of the quagmire we have been in for the last six and a half years! Look for the liberal smear campaign to begin shortly.



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Aug 25, 2014 15:34:12   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
I view with some (not a lot, but some) skepticism the sizable disparity of black to white cops on the Ferguson PD. But we might ask: "Would a black man prefer to be arrested, or shot, for that matter, by a black cop or a white cop. Not being a black man I can only ask, not answer. I can, however, suppose a black citizen could feel somewhat misrepresented, given such a disparity. I've never believed in a strict affirmative action, percentage-point for percentage-point, but a 50-3 margin seems rather excessive.

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Aug 25, 2014 16:25:45   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Danilo wrote:
I view with some (not a lot, but some) skepticism the sizable disparity of black to white cops on the Ferguson PD. But we might ask: "Would a black man prefer to be arrested, or shot, for that matter, by a black cop or a white cop. Not being a black man I can only ask, not answer. I can, however, suppose a black citizen could feel somewhat misrepresented, given such a disparity. I've never believed in a strict affirmative action, percentage-point for percentage-point, but a 50-3 margin seems rather excessive.
I view with some (not a lot, but i some /i ) skep... (show quote)


I agree completely here. Much as you may like him, Jake, I don't think this country is ready for another black president. You'd vote for him because he is black, not because he's a good leader, you have no idea what kind of a leader he is. I don't think many are even familiar with his stands and question them. Best concentrate on a white man. I think the best thing the Repubs have going for them is Jeb Bush, anyone else is either under indictment, involved in a scandal or batcrap crazy! :wink:

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Aug 25, 2014 16:53:53   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
dljen wrote:
I agree completely here. Much as you may like him, Jake, I don't think this country is ready for another black president. You'd vote for him because he is black, not because he's a good leader, you have no idea what kind of a leader he is. I don't think many are even familiar with his stands and question them. Best concentrate on a white man. I think the best thing the Repubs have going for them is Jeb Bush, anyone else is either under indictment, involved in a scandal or batcrap crazy! :wink:


Au contraire there dljen. I think I know much more about this man, (because I have read both of his books, heard many interviews, and listened to him talk) than I ever did about obama. (and his college transcripts aren't sealed) This really isn't about the color of a candidate, although I'm sure from you post you would like it to be, simply because he is a conservative, but about the character and honesty of the man. If Dr. Ben Carson were indee white, I would like his honesty, integrity, policies and beliefs, and would support him as well.

Savvy Republicans don't buy your nonsense about Jeb Bush being the best candidate as they know he is nothing more than you typical RINO, with a dubious stand on illegal aliens, and we saw what happened with a RINO the last election cycle, didn't we? However, that being said the blue blood, establishment, power elite in the GOP could very well make him the candidate. If that does happen the Republican Party will lose another Presidential election, regardless of who team donkey runs.

Let's face it, the typical democrat is terrified of Ben Carson, and we will see the mud slinging begin with their tried and true character assassination, whether it's true or not. How sad they will impune and demonize a good man.

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Aug 25, 2014 17:45:19   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
This nation is not ready to accept a black president - any inexperienced or experienced black president, certainly not one who is unsure of his political decisions. In the next presidential election, I think we need someone to heal the country. Who knows who will come up as a possible candidate in the next two years.

Jakebrake wrote:
Au contraire there dljen. I think I know much more about this man, (because I have read both of his books, heard many interviews, and listened to him talk) than I ever did about obama. (and his college transcripts aren't sealed) This really isn't about the color of a candidate, although I'm sure from you post you would like it to be, simply because he is a conservative, but about the character and honesty of the man. If Dr. Ben Carson were indee white, I would like his honesty, integrity, policies and beliefs, and would support him as well.

Savvy Republicans don't buy your nonsense about Jeb Bush being the best candidate as they know he is nothing more than you typical RINO, with a dubious stand on illegal aliens, and we saw what happened with a RINO the last election cycle, didn't we? However, that being said the blue blood, establishment, power elite in the GOP could very well make him the candidate. If that does happen the Republican Party will lose another Presidential election, regardless of who team donkey runs.

Let's face it, the typical democrat is terrified of Ben Carson, and we will see the mud slinging begin with their tried and true character assassination, whether it's true or not. How sad they will impune and demonize a good man.
Au contraire there dljen. I think I know much mor... (show quote)

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Aug 25, 2014 17:59:08   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Danilo wrote:
I view with some (not a lot, but some) skepticism the sizable disparity of black to white cops on the Ferguson PD. But we might ask: "Would a black man prefer to be arrested, or shot, for that matter, by a black cop or a white cop. Not being a black man I can only ask, not answer. I can, however, suppose a black citizen could feel somewhat misrepresented, given such a disparity. I've never believed in a strict affirmative action, percentage-point for percentage-point, but a 50-3 margin seems rather excessive.
I view with some (not a lot, but i some /i ) skep... (show quote)

The question is WHY is there a 50 to 3 margin? Is it a product of racism or a simple lack of qualified aplicants? Of coarse the race hustlers say racism, but it just may not be the case. Perhaps the town should try to get more minority officers but the standards should not be lowered to reach that goal.

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Aug 25, 2014 18:24:00   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
dljen wrote:
This nation is not ready to accept a black president - any inexperienced or experienced black president, certainly not one who is unsure of his political decisions. In the next presidential election, I think we need someone to heal the country. Who knows who will come up as a possible candidate in the next two years.


Why would our Nation not accept another black man, when we accepted one of dubious character and honesty for the past two terms? Unlike you, I do have more faith in the electorate to choose the best man or woman for the job, regardless of color, gender or sexual orientation considering what we have just experienced. We will just have to agree, to disagree on the issue of race in the next Presidential election.

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Aug 25, 2014 18:26:02   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
boberic wrote:
The question is WHY is there a 50 to 3 margin? Is it a product of racism or a simple lack of qualified aplicants? Of coarse the race hustlers say racism, but it just may not be the case. Perhaps the town should try to get more minority officers but the standards should not be lowered to reach that goal.



There is one little problem, and that is those pesky background checks!

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Aug 25, 2014 19:08:53   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
dljen wrote:
I agree completely here. Much as you may like him, Jake, I don't think this country is ready for another black president. You'd vote for him because he is black, not because he's a good leader, you have no idea what kind of a leader he is. I don't think many are even familiar with his stands and question them. Best concentrate on a white man. I think the best thing the Repubs have going for them is Jeb Bush, anyone else is either under indictment, involved in a scandal or batcrap crazy! :wink:


There is nothing in his post that even mentions Carson's race.
So ignoring the photo, where did you get your opinion from ??
I figure you're the start of the smear campaign that was predicted.

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Aug 25, 2014 19:12:02   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
BigBear wrote:
There is nothing in his post that even mentions Carson's race.
So ignoring the photo, where did you get your opinion from ??
I figure you're the start of the smear campaign that was predicted.


You're just looking for trouble where none exists. It's no secret, he's black...or maybe you've been in a closet. Geez...smh

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Aug 25, 2014 19:26:53   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
boberic wrote:
The question is WHY is there a 50 to 3 margin? Is it a product of racism or a simple lack of qualified aplicants? Of coarse the race hustlers say racism, but it just may not be the case. Perhaps the town should try to get more minority officers but the standards should not be lowered to reach that goal.


Recently, (a few days after the Ferguson shooting),NPR (not known for their conservative leanings) interview a black female police officer from Dallas Texas. She was clear that the community in which she was raised had a significant distrust for the Police organization and those in her community tried to talk her out of joining. She also mentioned that sadly many of the folks that she grew up with would not pass the back ground check for a job in the local PD. Possibly a better question should be, how many non whites applied for a job in the Ferguson PD.

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Aug 26, 2014 02:21:47   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
dljen wrote:
This nation is not ready to accept a black president - any inexperienced or experienced black president, certainly not one who is unsure of his political decisions. In the next presidential election, I think we need someone to heal the country. Who knows who will come up as a possible candidate in the next two years.


We're still in partial agreement, Donna. We do need a president who can heal the country, has proper experience to make judgement calls and policy decisions, and is honest with the constituency. But I think that person could be either black or white, or any other hue, for that matter. Jeb Bush has found his way to the bottom of MY list, and will likely remain there. I think the DNC puts Bush near the top, as it would be advantageous to them if he were to run. Hell, many of my liberal friends would like to see Sarah Palin run!

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Aug 26, 2014 02:37:13   #
Black Bart Loc: Indiana
 
boberic wrote:
The question is WHY is there a 50 to 3 margin? Is it a product of racism or a simple lack of qualified aplicants? Of coarse the race hustlers say racism, but it just may not be the case. Perhaps the town should try to get more minority officers but the standards should not be lowered to reach that goal.


This was addressed by the Ferguson chief he said they have tried to hire more blacks but few apply those who do can not meet requirements and if they do meet requirements they are hired by a larger city that pays more money.

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Aug 26, 2014 02:44:02   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Danilo wrote:
We're still in partial agreement, Donna. We do need a president who can heal the country, has proper experience to make judgement calls and policy decisions, and is honest with the constituency. But I think that person could be either black or white, or any other hue, for that matter. Jeb Bush has found his way to the bottom of MY list, and will likely remain there. I think the DNC puts Bush near the top, as it would be advantageous to them if he were to run. Hell, many of my liberal friends would like to see Sarah Palin run!
We're still in partial agreement, Donna. We do ne... (show quote)


I'd like to see her run too, Danilo, lots of my liberal friends would also like to see her run! :wink:

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Aug 26, 2014 02:58:00   #
Black Bart Loc: Indiana
 
dljen wrote:
I'd like to see her run too, Danilo, lots of my liberal friends would also like to see her run! :wink:


I hope the dims run der-hillderbeast nothing will get out the conservative vote like a chance to vote against Hillary.

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