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Aug 17, 2014 08:28:53   #
OviedoPhotos
 
I recall looking into this a year ago. What I learned was that although there is demand, there is not enough demand to warrant this as a feature. Lets face it Nikon wants to sell stuff, lots of people ask, they will deliver. I recall an old film SLR where I could replace them myself.

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Aug 17, 2014 08:34:09   #
C.R. Loc: United States of Confusion
 
OviedoPhotos wrote:
I recall looking into this a year ago. What I learned was that although there is demand, there is not enough demand to warrant this as a feature. Lets face it Nikon wants to sell stuff, lots of people ask, they will deliver. I recall an old film SLR where I could replace them myself.



i did a lot of searching and reading yesterday, seem to remember nikon makes some replacement screens, mostly for the high end pro stuff

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Aug 17, 2014 08:37:49   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
C.R. wrote:
found this company that produces focus screens to use on AF cameras, i've caught myself wishing my D610 had an old style split image screen. Anyone familiar with these products or maybe have used them? i ask because i have some manual focus lenses and my eyes aren't what they used to be and could use some help


I had one put on my old Nikon D200. It worked great. Made manual focusing just like my old FM and FE.

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Aug 17, 2014 09:19:13   #
electricmonster Loc: Naperville, IL
 
I have used the Katz eye foucus screens. They work fine...

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Aug 17, 2014 09:28:36   #
C.R. Loc: United States of Confusion
 
CatMarley wrote:
I had one put on my old Nikon D200. It worked great. Made manual focusing just like my old FM and FE.


and that's what i'm looking for, i'm going to contact them later today about getting one for my D610. i've certainly wasted more than 90 dollars experimenting with manual focus, in time alone, to make it worthwhile

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Aug 17, 2014 09:37:39   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Bought from them back in 2006 or maybe it was 2007... Got a "K' type screen for my D70s... Cost a lot less than they do nowadays. Used it in conjunction with my DK-21m viewfinder magnifier. Installed it myself (piece of cake)... These are all cut down versions of older SLR screens. I ,afterwards, bought several older screens & was going to cut them down myself. Never did though.... One thing I might mention is ,like in film days, half of the center split will black out if you use slower aperture lenses (F5.6 or slower [think of using the F8 mirror lenses here]). They will also half black out if your eye isn't perfectly aligned with the viewfinder... Never noticed any exposure problems as some have, but then again I used it with older manual focus macro lenses & the Nikon D70s wouldn't meter with them anyway. I have since moved on to a D300 & now a D7100, but don't use the focus screens anymore. Still use the DK-21M though. My main niche is macro & of course focus is critical since DOF is so thin, but I can still nail focus without the screen. The electronic range finder, while valuable in some shooting situations, doesn't help much when shooting macro. I ignore it... Now shooting birds with a n older MF lens, that's different.Practice will help with focus issues (just make sure you have your viewfinder diopter set correctly...)
C.R. wrote:
didn't want to get crossways with admin or have the warranty police hounding me :lol: but what the hell, i'm going to do what i want to do regardless

http://www.focusingscreen.com

be sure and click the currency converter to dollars or you will faint dead away

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Aug 17, 2014 09:44:03   #
C.R. Loc: United States of Confusion
 
just ordered a DK-21M yesterday

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Aug 17, 2014 09:53:00   #
marki3rd Loc: Columbus, Indiana
 
C.R. wrote:
no, never heard of KatzEye, now i have another to check out :lol:


I put a Katzeye screen in my Canon for the same reasons you are looking in to that option. I did a lot of research before I bought mine. I found that Katzeye is more expensive than other sources I found but they provide very good support and their product is the best available in my opinion. I am 100% satisfied with the results I got.

There are two possible downsides to installing any split image screen, including KatzEye as they will tell you up front and probably already have if you have explored their web site.

1.) It will have a small effect on exposure which you should take into consideration.

2.) With some Canon cameras at least, it eliminates the illuminated red focus point dots in the view finder. You still get the in-focus indication though. KatzEye will explain all this both in their web site and through personal email or even phone conversations. Do not hesitate to talk to them about any concerns you might have.

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Aug 17, 2014 09:53:11   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
C.R. wrote:
and that's what i'm looking for, i'm going to contact them later today about getting one for my D610. i've certainly wasted more than 90 dollars experimenting with manual focus, in time alone, to make it worthwhile

Katzeye.com will send you the screen with tools and you can install it yourself, or they charge $65 to install it for you and adjust everything for perfect focus. But they don't have one for the 600's and 800's yet.

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Aug 17, 2014 09:54:24   #
C.R. Loc: United States of Confusion
 
CatMarley wrote:
Katzeye.com will send you the screen with tools and you can install it yourself, or they charge $65 to install it for you and adjust everything for perfect focus. But they don't have one for the 600's and 800's yet.


yes, i saw that yesterday, i'll have to order one from the company in taiwan

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Aug 17, 2014 09:58:20   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
No big secret and no big job. There is a problem - sometimes half the circle will go black on you and you won't be able to focus well. It happened some with film cameras too, as I recall. Focus screens come with tools to install... really cheap tools but that's all you need. They're all over ebay. I put one in my Canon 5D MkII about 3 yeas ago. $15 and up... Go to ebay and do a search for "split focus screen for (your camera's name)" For D600... http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=split+focus+screen+for+Canon+5D2&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xsplit+focus+screen+for+Nikon+D600&_nkw=split+focus+screen+for+Nikon+D600&_sacat=0

D800... http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=split+focus+screen+for+Nikon+D600&_osacat=0&_from=R40%7CR40&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xsplit+focus+screen+for+Nikon+D800&_nkw=split+focus+screen+for+Nikon+D800&_sacat=0

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Aug 17, 2014 10:03:27   #
C.R. Loc: United States of Confusion
 
:thumbup:

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Aug 17, 2014 11:39:19   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
GTinSoCal wrote:
I'd have probably had a heart attack then it wouldn't matter anymore! LOL

So does anybody have much experience with them?
Share your thoughts, good, bad, improvements...

GT


I have KatzEye split screen my older digital cameras (d200/300) and had very good results. I will look to put one into my 7100 in the near future...Not sure about the 800 yet as the manual focus in that camera seems pretty good.

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Aug 17, 2014 11:57:40   #
matair Loc: L.I. NY (East End)
 
Hi, I too have a 7D and would like you opinion on the focusing quality of the camera/lens. I use a Sigma 18-200 for most photos but am not happy with obtaining sharp photos. I try every variation of their focusing systems.
Just not tack sharp.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Matt Martin

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Aug 17, 2014 13:40:58   #
Blasthoff Loc: Life halved NY and IN
 
blackest wrote:
I don't know if its a Pentax thing but even with a manual lens when you adjust focus there are a red spot where the focus point is and a green hexagon on the bottom display screen in the view finder which goes solid when focus is achieved plus the bleep of course. I do have a 3rd party focus screen as well and in body stabilization with all lenses I use. Due to the crop sensor I also get to use just the best part of the lens as all the older lenses are full frame. The KA Lenses are also capable of setting aperture automatically as well. I can also do an exposure check which shows me if I have any under or over exposed areas in frame, blinkies I think they are known as. with catch in focus its possible to lock the shutter until focus is achieved. This could be by the subject moving in to the focused area or me adjusting the focus till the body agrees the lens is in focus (tricky thou in practice its easy to overshoot unless your focusing slowly). I would guess canon and nikon have similar provisioning for manual focusing.
I don't know if its a Pentax thing but even with a... (show quote)
With my Nikon, the "focus indicator" is always there should I want to pay attention to it and 98% of he time I don't because it is an added step I want to avoid in the first place. Not only that, but the camera, amazing as it is, is still a "mindless machine" attempting to tell me where I want to focus when I can see it plain as day 98% of the time with the right focus screen without any shift of attention. I have an array of manual focus lenses I've used for 20 years that am quite familiar with, and all I ask from from the camera is to use them as I originally used them with film cameras. It's that simple, it's all I ask for and thank god it's what I have, without a whole lot of "makeshift".

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