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Jul 28, 2014 13:57:20   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Mark7829 wrote:
I see DX systems disappearing in the future.


As sensors improve the smaller formats will proliferate. DX has a bright future.

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Jul 28, 2014 15:18:07   #
jimpitt
 
It's the 3.5 - 5.6 "G"
Thanks for your comment.

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Jul 28, 2014 15:27:00   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
jimpitt wrote:
It's the 3.5 - 5.6 "G"
Thanks for your comment.

I would unload that. I wonder who decided to package it with the D80. It was the "Nikon kit" lens for the D700, a FX body.

If you are basically starting over, then the question is what "main" lens you want, and what will complement it. What quality level are you aiming for, and what sort of budget?

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Jul 28, 2014 15:30:58   #
jimpitt
 
Bram BOY:
The Nikon School was very valuable ancillary knowledge back in my early photography days when I also had college credit courses in photography. Sure, it is intended primarily for amateurs. I think that is where we all first started. ~~~ Jim.

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Jul 28, 2014 15:49:24   #
jimpitt
 
Hello Anand:
I really was not ready to "start over." My first DLSR was a D 50, then traded to a D 80 which "failed past repair" last month. So getting a new D 5300 earlier this month precipitated some new thoughts/ ideas. The "kit" was from Houston Camera Exchange, a very large retail/ wholesale outlet with every camera brand. I consigned virtually all of my slide cameras (2 FTN's, a Nikonos, and a Leica 4) and lenses in 2008 for my first DSLR. I have a Leica-C Lux 3, 12.5 pix "shirtpocket" that I take to dinner parties. For road racing, sailing, ocean cruises, fishing, hunting, and vacations in general, I like something more serious; however maybe the FX is more than I need. My major issue at this point is deciding whether my 2 FX lenses are wasted on a DX body. Your comments are very kind thanks.

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Jul 28, 2014 16:05:25   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
FX lenses are never "wasted".

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Jul 28, 2014 16:24:41   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
jimpitt wrote:
My major issue at this point is deciding whether my 2 FX lenses are wasted on a DX body.

Dump the 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6.

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Jul 28, 2014 16:55:52   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
jimpitt wrote:
Hello Anand:
I really was not ready to "start over." My first DLSR was a D 50, then traded to a D 80 which "failed past repair" last month. So getting a new D 5300 earlier this month precipitated some new thoughts/ ideas. The "kit" was from Houston Camera Exchange, a very large retail/ wholesale outlet with every camera brand. I consigned virtually all of my slide cameras (2 FTN's, a Nikonos, and a Leica 4) and lenses in 2008 for my first DSLR. I have a Leica-C Lux 3, 12.5 pix "shirtpocket" that I take to dinner parties. For road racing, sailing, ocean cruises, fishing, hunting, and vacations in general, I like something more serious; however maybe the FX is more than I need. My major issue at this point is deciding whether my 2 FX lenses are wasted on a DX body. Your comments are very kind thanks.
Hello Anand: br I really was not ready to "st... (show quote)

The issue isn't that the FX lenses are wasted, but in the case of the 24-120mm, it doesn't really meet the purpose of a "general purpose lens". The 70-300mm is probably worth keeping. And since it's the older, unimpressive 24-120mm, I think you are "starting over" in a sense, because you would no longer have a "primary" lens.

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Jul 29, 2014 05:54:30   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jimpitt wrote:
I need a little explanation of the differences between these two Nikon lens formats. The FX is much more expensive so it must do something that maybe I need, or maybe not. I have a 24-120 FX VR (portrait zoom) and a 70-300 DX VR (tele zoom) paired with a 1 week old D 5300. Am considering a wide zoom such as the 16-35 FX VR and wonder if I need to spend the extra $'s or just go with a DX. My expertise level is advanced amateur. Thanks in advance for your comments.


DX lenses cover a smaller image circle than an FX lens. Many FX lenses are targeted towards professionals, and are generally built to higher standards - dust and moisture sealing, less plastic, more resistant to damage from impact, etc. Also, they tend to be faster - better autofocus motors and larger maximum apertures. In the case of zooms, the maximum aperture does not change when you zoom. All of this adds up to a bigger heavier, better made lens - and more expensive.

Most lenses have better performance near the optical axis than the edges and corners. When you use an FX lens on a DX camera, you are only using the center of the image, which is generally sharper. Using DX lenses on DX cameras often has the same loss of image quality as you can get with an FX lens on a FX camera.

If you never intend to get an FX camera, then get a DX wide angle zoom and save some $$$. Though you can get a Sigma or Tokina ultrawide and still get a decent lens for less than a Nikon.

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Jul 29, 2014 08:06:50   #
steveg48
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
FX and DX are camera formats--FX is a full frame sensor (larger); the DX is a cropped sensor (smaller). Simplified, the lens is suited for the appropriate camera format.



An FX lens will work very well on a DX camera. However the 1.5 crop factor must be applied. If the resulting field of view/equivalent focal length is acceptable then you will get better performance than with a DX lens.

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Jul 29, 2014 08:08:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jimpitt wrote:
I need a little explanation of the differences between these two Nikon lens formats. The FX is much more expensive so it must do something that maybe I need, or maybe not. I have a 24-120 FX VR (portrait zoom) and a 70-300 DX VR (tele zoom) paired with a 1 week old D 5300. Am considering a wide zoom such as the 16-35 FX VR and wonder if I need to spend the extra $'s or just go with a DX. My expertise level is advanced amateur. Thanks in advance for your comments.

I haven't read all the replies, but take a look at the Nikon Lens Simulator - very good. They re-did the site.

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/

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Jul 29, 2014 08:14:25   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
amehta wrote:
Welcome!

The FX lens has to cover a larger image circle, because the FX sensor is 1.5x larger. With wide angle and ultra wide angle lenses, this is a big factor. Since you already have the 24-120mm lens, I would not get either a FX 16-35mm or a DX lens starting at 18mm, because there is so much overlap. Instead, consider the Nikon 12-24mm f/4G DX, which will complement your current lens perfectly.
Welcome! br br The FX lens has to cover a larger ... (show quote)


Great answer and suggestions.

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Jul 29, 2014 08:25:13   #
PHW Loc: Madison, WI
 
jimpitt wrote:
I need a little explanation of the differences between these two Nikon lens formats. The FX is much more expensive so it must do something that maybe I need, or maybe not. I have a 24-120 FX VR (portrait zoom) and a 70-300 DX VR (tele zoom) paired with a 1 week old D 5300. Am considering a wide zoom such as the 16-35 FX VR and wonder if I need to spend the extra $'s or just go with a DX. My expertise level is advanced amateur. Thanks in advance for your comments.

DX is for less than full frame cameras. FX is for full frame. You better get with a good informative salesman and ask questions then get some experience hands on. Most people will never know the difference between the quality unless they see a blow up. 98% of all pictures today are taken with a cell phone camera. Satisfied with that?

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Jul 29, 2014 09:02:37   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
jimpitt wrote:
I need a little explanation of the differences between these two Nikon lens formats. The FX is much more expensive so it must do something that maybe I need, or maybe not. I have a 24-120 FX VR (portrait zoom) and a 70-300 DX VR (tele zoom) paired with a 1 week old D 5300. Am considering a wide zoom such as the 16-35 FX VR and wonder if I need to spend the extra $'s or just go with a DX. My expertise level is advanced amateur. Thanks in advance for your comments.


Simply put, the FX lens and DX lenses are compatible to a point. (meaning both will fit and work on both cameras with 1 major difference). An FX lens projects a 50% larger area at the sensor (the difference in size of the larger FX camera sensor to the smaller DX sensor). An FX lens on a DX camera will provide a larger acceptance of image to the area and the smaller DX sensor will crop out the extra 1/3 of the image around the edges. Similar to shooting an FX camera in DX (cropped mode). The DX lens on an FX camera will only provide image data to the center 2/3 of the sensor leaving the rest unexposed. Many of the FX cameras will have a DX or Cropped Mode which will have the camera automatically change the view to represent this area for correct view finder aiming. In FX on a DX camera, the view finder may or may not show the entire view if the lens ( I can't remember on this) but if so just remember to keep your aim in the center 2/3rds of the view. Many photographers that are planning on getting an FX camera will purchase ONLY FX lenses so that all are easily compatible with the more expensive (some say better) camera. Both lens formats have some very good lenses and some so / so lenses, although FX tends to have more "pro quality" lenses.

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Jul 29, 2014 09:46:12   #
jgitomer Loc: Skippack Pennsylvania
 
Three things to consider:

First, lenses are forever, but bodies are not. Your own experience with digital bodies bears this out.

Second, at some point in the future the price differential between DX and FX bodies will be reduced to the point where it makes no sense to buy a new DX body -- unless you have a substantial investment in DX lenses.

Third, unless you are a working pro you don't NEED "Holy Trinity" f/2.8 fixed aperture professional zoom lenses. (Sure, if you can afford them they are nice to have, but want and need are not the same.)

I truly believe that it makes more sense to buy FX lenses, but then I must admit to being biased.

Jerry

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