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Jul 23, 2014 07:40:01   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
I have a D800E, and tried out a D810 in a shop in Tokyo. No time for comparison shots, but the feeling is...refined...

The shutter is much quieter and feels smoother than on the 800. The rear screen is great--noticeably sharper. I didn't have my viewing hood with me, but I can imagine it will make manual focusing of video much easier. And for video there are definite improvements both in quality and implementation (60p, zebras, power aperture while filming, simultaneous output of uncompressed HDMI while recording to card).

I saw a comparison showing reduced chroma noise above ISO 6400--something like 1/2 EV.

Appears to me a worthy upgrade.

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Jul 23, 2014 10:11:33   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
If you shoot videos and do not have the 800e...

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Jul 23, 2014 10:15:07   #
C.R. Loc: United States of Confusion
 
kymarto wrote:
I have a D800E, and tried out a D810 in a shop in Tokyo. No time for comparison shots, but the feeling is...refined...

The shutter is much quieter and feels smoother than on the 800. The rear screen is great--noticeably sharper. I didn't have my viewing hood with me, but I can imagine it will make manual focusing of video much easier. And for video there are definite improvements both in quality and implementation (60p, zebras, power aperture while filming, simultaneous output of uncompressed HDMI while recording to card).

I saw a comparison showing reduced chroma noise above ISO 6400--something like 1/2 EV.

Appears to me a worthy upgrade.
I have a D800E, and tried out a D810 in a shop in ... (show quote)


thank you. disregard the negative :lol:

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Jul 23, 2014 10:16:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
C.R. wrote:
thank you. disregard the negative :lol:
So a different opinion is automatically a negative???

Wow!

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Jul 23, 2014 11:54:02   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Then of course there is faster frame rate, better AF and a few other things for still shooters :)

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Jul 23, 2014 12:08:24   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
kymarto wrote:
Then of course there is faster frame rate, better AF and a few other things for still shooters :)
Right but that is just an incremental progress that does not justifies the cost.

The only folks that consider upgrading are using the video option. For that, I have no idea as I do not use it.

Still photography? Quiet shutter? Not an issue, faster frame rate? Not an issue - How many really use burst mode? AF? not an issue. Better metering? I use full manual so...

Had the camera improved on the dynamic range, raised the pixel numbers I would have considered it.

As is? Thank you, I keep my D800e.

The D810 is a great upgrade for anyone stepping up from almost all other models, including full frame. For someone who has one of D800 versions? That is greatly debatable.

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Jul 24, 2014 00:35:15   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
So a different opinion is automatically a negative???

Wow!

It isn't that your logic is so negative as the way you couch it. Actually, your opinions are generally well thought out and are highly regarded. Some people have a problem with "knee-jerk reactions"; if you took just a little more time to explain your reasoning, we would all have a valuable resource that would not turn us off so easily. I have learned that, when you are challenged, you usually respond with a very intelligent explanation (no, I don't always agree with you, but I'll read your responses because I can benefit from them). I just wish you would give us the benefit of your knowledge and experience in a more timely and less confrontational manner. Thanks.

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Jul 24, 2014 01:08:40   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Been reading this and thinking for at least 20 minutes now.

Not sure how to respond to it.

Thanks for the honesty?

Most of the time the 'confrontational manner' is not confrontation but the way I express myself. I do not like conflict but I react aggressively. I like straight forwardness first and foremost. When I type it is different from when I speak because then I can 'read' the person and adapt my speech.

Been typing other things and deleting them. What I would say could be interpreted any which way so what is the point?

I am not old (58) but I am a (tamable) grumpy old man.

I guess this sums it up more than anything else I could say.

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Jul 24, 2014 01:40:15   #
DesertRat71 Loc: Arizona
 
kymarto wrote:
I have a D800E, and tried out a D810 in a shop in Tokyo. No time for comparison shots, but the feeling is...refined...


And look what knocked on my door today!

:lol: :thumbup: :P

Wow!
Wow!...
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Jul 24, 2014 03:10:53   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Ha! You should have bought a D3200 and a kit lens--good enough...and sent that to me...

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Jul 24, 2014 03:11:20   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Been reading this and thinking for at least 20 minutes now.

Not sure how to respond to it.

Thanks for the honesty?

Most of the time the 'confrontational manner' is not confrontation but the way I express myself. I do not like conflict but I react aggressively. I like straight forwardness first and foremost. When I type it is different from when I speak because then I can 'read' the person and adapt my speech.

Been typing other things and deleting them. What I would say could be interpreted any which way so what is the point?

I am not old (58) but I am a (tamable) grumpy old man.

I guess this sums it up more than anything else I could say.
Been reading this and thinking for at least 20 min... (show quote)

I was actually hoping for an answer like this - reflectively explanatory and NOT apologetic. Now I understand you better. You're what I call the "drill sergeant" (and that is not an insult!); you respond in a gruff manner (albeit not always) to get your primary message across. Non-confrontational, but aggressive; that is good! Now that I know that, I can be prepared for that first reaction (and maybe get a chuckle or two). I can live with and even respect your point of view. I hope I haven't extracted too many of your secrets. I warn you that, knowing what I know now, I might be inclined to make an occasional sardonic comment; I assure you that any such remark will, in no way, be mean or disrespectful - just a stream of conscious reaction. Feel free to respond in kind, but do be gentle. I am not a youngster like you (cruising along in my 70's), but I am not tamable (just ask my last wife who left me after 29 years).

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Jul 24, 2014 06:07:31   #
RGH
 
I am one of those that got the new 810 last Thursday. Fantastic camera. I had the D800. Best things so far. Big improvement in ISO, CLEAN. Love the expanded min and max settings with the AUTO ISO. Almost turns the camera into a point and shoot in Manual Mode. Just use the exposure compensation button for perfect adjustments, shoots a little under exposed for me. I was able to find my AA battery insert for my grip and loaded it up with the 8 AAs and pulled my 18-300 lens from my d7100 bag. Putting that all together with the better focusing and you have a WOW very fast frames per second setup. I followed Ken RockwellÂ’s instructions and they worked. I was able to blackout the space not used in the viewfinder no longer just a line when using the 18-300. Very, very cool!!! The 810 Fantastic and I am glad I made the change. For me the 810 is very nice upgrade.

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Jul 24, 2014 06:38:25   #
thefishlives
 
Hi, I have a d300s and am considering upgrading to the D810. I have been following your posts and am still on the fence because of the high cost, but do appreciate all your input that I have read so far, by the way I am at that magical nbr 69 just to give my 2cents worth. I do take into consideration all the input from everyone & have found all to be valid points I also am not into video just to clarify my position.

Thanks

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Jul 24, 2014 06:47:48   #
RGH
 
Coming from the D300, I would wait a little longer. You can pick up a d800 now for between $1,650 and $2,000. soon they may be between $1,200 and $1,600. Dealers are taking them in as trade for around $1,200. I sold mine for $1,750 and was lucky.

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Jul 24, 2014 06:57:34   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Right but that is just an incremental progress that does not justifies the cost.

The only folks that consider upgrading are using the video option. For that, I have no idea as I do not use it.

Still photography? Quiet shutter? Not an issue, faster frame rate? Not an issue - How many really use burst mode? AF? not an issue. Better metering? I use full manual so...

Had the camera improved on the dynamic range, raised the pixel numbers I would have considered it.

As is? Thank you, I keep my D800e.

The D810 is a great upgrade for anyone stepping up from almost all other models, including full frame. For someone who has one of D800 versions? That is greatly debatable.
Right but that is just an incremental progress tha... (show quote)


I am a still shooter and the improved AF is a BIG issue!

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