Doctors leaving Medicine
Jul 13, 2014 16:41:28 #
hfb wrote:
Are they gone? Not where I live. A study in 2010 plus three years equals 2013 last year.
Anecdotal, at best.
Jul 13, 2014 16:53:24 #
hfb
Loc: Northwestern Louisiana
Did they leave where you live?
I heard all the same stories when Medicare came into being. Not true then either.
I heard all the same stories when Medicare came into being. Not true then either.
davefales wrote:
Anecdotal, at best.
Jul 13, 2014 18:03:37 #
hfb wrote:
Are they gone? Not where I live. A study in 2010 plus three years equals 2013 last year.
Maybe not so many that you can tell where you live. But I know a lot who have left or are leaving the insurance scene. You will find out when you get sick.
Jul 13, 2014 19:58:01 #
RichieC
Loc: Adirondacks
My doctor took a job at a local college, she was tired of having to see as many patients in a day as she possibly could. she spent very title time actually practicing medicine and with hands on the patients, her job a had trend into entering data into all the fields, then quickly moving on to the next.
Its happening.
Its happening.
Jul 13, 2014 21:05:45 #
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
As a disgruntled general practice/urgent care physician making a low 6 figure income after nearly 30 years in practice, I couldn't agree with you more. Get a load of this P.O.S. car with MD plates. Really "drives" home my point.
What, you have to drive a bloated Cadillac or Mercedes to be a Doctor? Perhaps the individual has just graduated from Medical School, has a $200,000 debt and can only afford an old Acura, and who does not have a "low 6 figure income" to pay for the yacht.
Jul 13, 2014 21:15:56 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Perhaps the individual has just graduated from Medical School,
He just said he had nearly 30 years practice.
Jul 13, 2014 21:25:16 #
I once read that people who have accumulated considerable wealth tend to drive old clunkers. Their self image has nothing to do with a flashy car. My favorite PCP who is wonderful humanitarian drives a beat up old truck. I never assumed it was because he was poor.
Jul 13, 2014 21:41:12 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
What, you have to drive a bloated Cadillac or Mercedes to be a Doctor? Perhaps the individual has just graduated from Medical School, has a $200,000 debt and can only afford an old Acura, and who does not have a "low 6 figure income" to pay for the yacht.
After 30 years? And over 25 years in school to get the training, and so many of the years thereafter paying off the debt? And $100,000 for an 80 hour week? Let's see. 52 X 80 = 4160 and 100,000 / 4160 = $24 per hour. After 30 years in practice. And no company pension to look at, either. He had to put it all away for himself - if he could. Boy is he lucky - a rich doctor!
Jul 13, 2014 21:58:46 #
I'm not all that well traveled but I believe the concept of a "rich doctor" is a uniquely American concept. A few years ago I was invited to stay with a Romanian family, while I was climbing mountains in that country. He was a medical doctor and his wife was a High School language teacher. She spoke much more correct English than I do. I was shocked by the simplicity of their life style and how modest their apartment was. Very little in the way of luxury, poor by Western standards. I mentioned to their son that medical doctors in the USA have much prestige and are upper part of American society. The son explained to me that if a doctor is wealthy in Romania, he is looked on with suspicion and will not have many clients. Strange.....
Jul 14, 2014 00:30:26 #
davefales wrote:
He just said he had nearly 30 years practice.
I meant the driver of the POS Acura.
Jul 14, 2014 00:31:08 #
EdJ0307 wrote:
I lThat is why I don't live there anymore.
Good. One less Republican on the Freeway.
Jul 14, 2014 00:46:39 #
I apologize if someone has already pointed this out but doctors leaving their practices has been a well known phenomenon for quite some time. Long before the Affordable Care Act. The high cost of running a practice is the main reason. Paying for staff, rent on an office, expensive supply's, regulatory standards, and most of all the huge malpractice premiums all make it less attractive to run a practice.
I just don't see how would the ACA send doctors running?
I just don't see how would the ACA send doctors running?
Jul 14, 2014 05:00:42 #
Blenheim Orange wrote:
We are better off without doctors who are primarily interested in how much money they can make.
If doctors are not interested in patient care, they are in the wrong field.
Karl Marx
If doctors are not interested in patient care, they are in the wrong field.
Karl Marx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ0-cDKMS5M
I bought ice cream yesterday, at Krogers, which as everyone knows is "interested in how much money they make."
Everything there is fresh, wholesome, plentiful, and the people are courteous and helpful. Intending to pull $100 cash from my bank account, I hit the appropriate keys at self-checkout, and then hurried out with my ice cream before it melted, leaving the five twenty dollar bills in the tray. When I remembered an hour later, I returned to Kroger's and after reviewing their video recording to validate my claim, they promptly handed over $100 cash to me. How "greedy" can you get.
Fortunately there is absolutely NO GREED in any Marxist/socialist/Democrat, especially Blenheim Orange. He works for a loss, and is perfect in every way. Like Karl Marx was.
Jul 14, 2014 08:29:52 #
EngineerAl wrote:
Interesting video... His best defense of Capitalism is that it's no worse than the alternative.
Friedman complains that socialism requires virtue over greed to work, but Friedman is also responsible for "supply-side" economics, which requires the same thing. Simple explaination of SSE: If you give rich people money, they will hire people they have no business need for, out of charity. Keynesian "demand-side" economics (still capitalism) say that if you give poor people money, they will buy things, make rich people hire more people to meet the demand.
Further Friedman claims the worst economic conditions are places with communistic government, but in reality the worst conditions are in capitalistic Africa, where the diamond trade has led to slavery and other violent conditions for workers. In fact, EVERY CULTURE which had not put heavy restrictions on Capitalism, has had slavery.
Jul 14, 2014 08:38:01 #
Wing nuts have hijacked this topic. I thought we were talking about doctors and their ability to make a living under the affordable care act.
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