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Jun 23, 2014 01:51:17   #
watchwinder Loc: Churubusco, Indiana
 
This is so wrong, P is for pressure when you don't have time to get all your settings just right!
Bram boy wrote:
as far as I'm concerned it looks cartoonish if your heavy handed with it
Just tune in Ken Rockwell , you will see what I mean his pictures are so
saturated and contraste that there hard to even look at . there so Un natural in the state he makes them . way to heavy . but then again he never sets fstops shutter speed . he is in total auto all the time . he uses
nikon so he is always in P which means his camera picks speed
fstop iso is auto , whit balance , all auto and he admits it . he says P is for
pro's
as far as I'm concerned it looks cartoonish if you... (show quote)

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Jun 23, 2014 03:50:05   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
watchwinder wrote:
Don't get me wrong I've done alot of crazy s..t in photoshop that has turned out really neet!! Just try to stay with color, contrast, and basics: It's just the way I work, kinda old school!!


well who's is it ? the only PP I do is expouser over or under contrast high lights in bird feathers shadows . I don't have a clue about not yours . I tweak about as much as you do when you pull a Ken Rockwell probably only I dont goe to the extreme as that .

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Jun 23, 2014 03:52:20   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
watchwinder wrote:
This is so wrong, P is for pressure when you don't have time to get all your settings just right!


fair enough but he says him self that he never uses any thing else but p

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Jun 23, 2014 04:51:00   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
watchwinder wrote:
This is so wrong, P is for pressure when you don't have time to get all your settings just right!


I played that "I'm going to get it perfect in camera" gamer for a while. maybe it's because I do a lot of low light shots but found the philosophy simply unreasonable. While you may dub it pressure, there are simply too many times correct in camera is not possible. Heck I had some shots that I thought were great out of the camera still could be nicely improved with PPing. You must have an excellent internal eye to always get the white balance just right. I commend your Kelvin vision

All the time you struggle to get it perfect I will spend in PPing and damn near guarantee it. Each to their own.

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Jun 23, 2014 05:06:47   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
pithydoug wrote:
I played that "I'm going to get it perfect in camera" gamer for a while. maybe it's because I do a lot of low light shots but found the philosophy simply unreasonable. While you may dub it pressure, there are simply too many times correct in camera is not possible. Heck I had some shots that I thought were great out of the camera still could be nicely improved with PPing. You must have an excellent internal eye to always get the white balance just right. I commend your Kelvin vision

All the time you struggle to get it perfect I will spend in PPing and damn near guarantee it. Each to their own.
I played that "I'm going to get it perfect i... (show quote)


I get a kick out of these people who say it's not your pic if u are doing it in post p . the artist with the brush or pencil will keep fussing with a section that
he figures is needing more work . go tell him it's not your picture . that is the goofiest thing I heard in awhile

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Jun 23, 2014 05:20:02   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
watchwinder wrote:
How many hogs shoot in "vivid mode" most of the time? If so why or why not? There are there few occasions when I ever turn mine off..........Thanks for your time.
JIM


Never - don't even know how to turn it on (kidding, but in all honestly I have never used it).

You will get far better results if you record raw images and process the color saturation and contrast later, precisely how you want to see it. You may want vivid for most of the scene, but not for other parts of it, and by making that choice later, you record the image the way the camera sees it, and you can adjust the image to the way you saw it or want others to see it.

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Jun 23, 2014 06:28:39   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
watchwinder wrote:
How many hogs shoot in "vivid mode" most of the time? If so why or why not? There are there few occasions when I ever turn mine off..........Thanks for your time.
JIM


I don't use any of the "scene" modes. I shoot, aperture, Shutter priority, or manual about 80% of the time. I sometimes shoot in auto without speedlight but rarely.
The scene modes have the camera processing the image in ways that I feel (personal opinion) that I can do better in Lightroom. I shoot everything Raw (Nef) so I have total control. Vivid is a mode where the camera is oversaturating all of the colors it sees. If I want my images that way, then I do it in lightroom to the ones I feel need it.

I will say that when I first got my D7100, I went out and shot 20 or 25 shots in each mode to see what the differences were. (these were test shots just to get an idea and not of anything in particular but the same shot at least once in each mode and different types of settings)

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Jun 23, 2014 06:48:29   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
I sometimes shoot in landscape mode even though I may be shooting something other than that. Gives a little more DOF and more vivid colors. I find that more useful on my 7D as opposed to my 5D mark iii though.
watchwinder wrote:
How many hogs shoot in "vivid mode" most of the time? If so why or why not? There are there few occasions when I ever turn mine off..........Thanks for your time.
JIM

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Jun 23, 2014 06:55:21   #
watchwinder Loc: Churubusco, Indiana
 
If anyone has a clue what ths guy is trying to get across let me know!
Bram boy wrote:
well who's is it ? the only PP I do is expouser over or under contrast high lights in bird feathers shadows . I don't have a clue about not yours . I tweak about as much as you do when you pull a Ken Rockwell probably only I dont goe to the extreme as that .

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Jun 23, 2014 07:25:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
watchwinder wrote:
How many hogs shoot in "vivid mode" most of the time? If so why or why not? There are there few occasions when I ever turn mine off..........Thanks for your time.
JIM

Without looking at my cameras (I.m too comfortable here with my coffee and my keyboard), I think I have them set one notch higher than Normal. With raw, it doesn't matter, and with JPEG, you can change color in post, so it's not a big deal.

Many articles I've read have suggested increasing color saturation in the camera because the standard setting is very mild. I think Ken Rockwell always recommends "vivid."

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Jun 23, 2014 07:27:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
watchwinder wrote:
If anyone has a clue what ths guy is trying to get across let me know!

Nikon has a setting in the Menu to adjust color saturation, so for JPEGs, the colors can be more or less saturated. The "normal" setting is often too weak, with pale colors.

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Jun 23, 2014 07:59:06   #
drmarty Loc: Pine City, NY
 
Erik_H wrote:
I shoot raw so camera control is pretty much moot. Having said that, I do leave my D7000 set to vivid and I do occasionally set my second sd card to jpeg if I think I'll be shooting something that I'll need right away. Vivid seems to give better color saturation for jpegs.


I agree. I rarely shoot jpegs but find the vivid setting best when I do.

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Jun 23, 2014 08:00:25   #
avman Loc: Normal IL
 
watchwinder wrote:
How many hogs shoot in "vivid mode" most of the time? If so why or why not? There are there few occasions when I ever turn mine off..........Thanks for your time.
JIM

Vivid mode? Can't say I have ever heard of it...must be a Nikon thing....

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Jun 23, 2014 08:15:21   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
watchwinder wrote:
If anyone has a clue what ths guy is trying to get across let me know!

Sadly, you're not alone.

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Jun 23, 2014 08:28:18   #
Jim Bob
 
watchwinder wrote:
How many hogs shoot in "vivid mode" most of the time? If so why or why not? There are there few occasions when I ever turn mine off..........Thanks for your time.
JIM

I do not use it most of the time. Depends on the subject/scene and what I wish to accomplish. Usually I use a custom picture mode that slightly enhances both saturation and sharpness.

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