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Jun 15, 2014 06:54:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bsprague wrote:
May I suggest you buy a pair of Canon Pro-100 printers? The current rebate makes it so you would not have to move your printer and be well under budget.

Prints from my RX100 are continue to impress me, friends and family.

(If you do take my suggestion, be sure a friend with a different last name buys the second printer for you due to rebate rules.

I'd like to know why Canon is selling these printers for bargain basement prices. This rebate has been going on for months. I know they make money from the ink, but that's nothing unusual.

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Jun 15, 2014 07:28:21   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
Using a 3880 for a couple of years now and love it. Using Red River papers and Cone Inks in refillable carts, cuts ink costs by about 2/3s of the Epson inks. Pretty heavy to move though.

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Jun 15, 2014 07:54:26   #
HeyYou Loc: SE Michigan
 
I have the 3880 and love it.

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Jun 15, 2014 08:11:03   #
A.J.R. Loc: Devon, UK
 
I replaced my Epson R2400 with the R3000 about a year ago and although the R2400 produced excellent exhibition quality prints (Printed for a local photographic group), I think the R3000 gives even better quality (in both colour and monochrome). Another advantage - less time changing the ink cartridges as they have larger capacity.

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Jun 15, 2014 09:17:52   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
I have the 3880 and take it with me when I go out of town for a long period of time and know I am going to need it, I move it by myself and I am not a young man anymore 68. Does well in the back of the truck I don't use the clips or tape that came with it just the Styrofoam and in the box.

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Jun 15, 2014 09:37:30   #
tombackman Loc: RHODE ISLAND
 
HI DAVE, I HAVE BEEN USING THE EPSON R 3000 FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND FIND IT TO BE VERY GOOD. I ALSO GET GOOD DEALS ON PAPER AT "ITSUPPLIES.COM"

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Jun 15, 2014 09:51:21   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Epson 3880 without qualification. It performs like a champ. It will do whatever you need done by way of printing photographs.

I've owned and used this printer for about 3 years now. It produces prints of the highest quality.

I've never had a problem with it. I use mainly Epson papers and paper profiles.

I like that with my own printer I can exert complete control over my photography from start to finish.

Good luck.
DavidPine wrote:
I've reached the point where I want to get a new printer. I now have an Epson and Canon with 8.5x11 capability. I have been using Epson printers for over 20 years (up to E Size and rolls). I use to mount and vacuum press. I have been researching the R3000, R3880 and the R4900. At 115lbs, I find the 4900 a bit too heavy. The reviews on all 3 are good. I saw one report that indicated the R3000 was as good as the other two. I am leaning toward the R3880 but I can't truly say why except it is considered and upgrade to the R3000. Price wise, in the long run, they are about the same or within $100 of each other. Over the years, I have been very satisfied with the quality prints from Epson and I haven't seriously considered other brands. Paper is the major expense and I have been researching Red River Paper and I like the reviews I have read. After researching, I find that I am confused somewhat. There is nothing like practical experience and I would appreciate input. I have a budget of about $2,000 and all of these fall well within that allowance. One consideration is that I will be hauling the printer to and from my second home on a bi-weekly basis. That's why the 155lbs. bothers me. My prints are not for commercial reproduction but I want high quality. Don't be afraid to head me in another direction.
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Jun 15, 2014 10:23:34   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
I'd recommend the R3000. I get marvellous prints. The issue of having to change out the gloss ink for the matte ink isn't one that bothers me because I only print matte images. The printer likes other high end brand papers like Hahnemuhle and Inkpress.
DavidPine wrote:
I've reached the point where I want to get a new printer. I now have an Epson and Canon with 8.5x11 capability. I have been using Epson printers for over 20 years (up to E Size and rolls). I use to mount and vacuum press. I have been researching the R3000, R3880 and the R4900. At 115lbs, I find the 4900 a bit too heavy. The reviews on all 3 are good. I saw one report that indicated the R3000 was as good as the other two. I am leaning toward the R3880 but I can't truly say why except it is considered and upgrade to the R3000. Price wise, in the long run, they are about the same or within $100 of each other. Over the years, I have been very satisfied with the quality prints from Epson and I haven't seriously considered other brands. Paper is the major expense and I have been researching Red River Paper and I like the reviews I have read. After researching, I find that I am confused somewhat. There is nothing like practical experience and I would appreciate input. I have a budget of about $2,000 and all of these fall well within that allowance. One consideration is that I will be hauling the printer to and from my second home on a bi-weekly basis. That's why the 155lbs. bothers me. My prints are not for commercial reproduction but I want high quality. Don't be afraid to head me in another direction.
I've reached the point where I want to get a new p... (show quote)

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Jun 15, 2014 10:48:17   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Thank all of you. I watched Scott Kelby (Kelby-One) go over the Epson printers and now I am in the middle of watching Ben Long (Lynda.com). Both of these guys use Epson printers and highly recommend them. I am leaning heavily toward the 3880. I need to make my choice sometime today. I'm probably going to buy it through B & H.

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Jun 15, 2014 10:50:14   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Good idea. Thank you. I usually throw boxes out after 30 days.I don't think I will after your post.
jjestar wrote:
I have the 3880 and take it with me when I go out of town for a long period of time and know I am going to need it, I move it by myself and I am not a young man anymore 68. Does well in the back of the truck I don't use the clips or tape that came with it just the Styrofoam and in the box.

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Jun 15, 2014 10:54:25   #
Peanut_the_cat Loc: Bradenton, Florida
 
DavidPine wrote:
I've reached the point where I want to get a new printer. I now have an Epson and Canon with 8.5x11 capability. I have been using Epson printers for over 20 years (up to E Size and rolls). I use to mount and vacuum press. I have been researching the R3000, R3880 and the R4900. At 115lbs, I find the 4900 a bit too heavy. The reviews on all 3 are good. I saw one report that indicated the R3000 was as good as the other two. I am leaning toward the R3880 but I can't truly say why except it is considered and upgrade to the R3000. Price wise, in the long run, they are about the same or within $100 of each other. Over the years, I have been very satisfied with the quality prints from Epson and I haven't seriously considered other brands. Paper is the major expense and I have been researching Red River Paper and I like the reviews I have read. After researching, I find that I am confused somewhat. There is nothing like practical experience and I would appreciate input. I have a budget of about $2,000 and all of these fall well within that allowance. One consideration is that I will be hauling the printer to and from my second home on a bi-weekly basis. That's why the 155lbs. bothers me. My prints are not for commercial reproduction but I want high quality. Don't be afraid to head me in another direction.
I've reached the point where I want to get a new p... (show quote)


I have the 3880 for two years or more (maybe 3) and it's been a fine and reliable printer. If you saw the packing when it arrives you would think twice before moving it too much without incurring some potential damage. For that reason alone I would look at something else.

For fine art printing I am now using Epsons Cold Press Bright paper which is the finest I have ever used, either for color or black & white. I have no problem feeding 22" x 17" sheets through the front loader as it is too thick for loading from the top. The rollers are also adjustable for heavy papers but I have not found that necessary. I was thinking of moving to Thailand but if I ever did would sell the 3880 here in the USA and have a new one shipped to Thailand (with all its packaging).

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Jun 15, 2014 11:13:56   #
jefflantzimages Loc: Seattle
 
i have been using the R3880 for 2 years and love it. go with the 3880 you will not be sorry. i use it with LR5, Nik, onOne and CS6 and the 3880 can't be beat (usless you want to go to the next level).

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Jun 15, 2014 13:20:08   #
Poke Loc: West Virginia
 
I presently have the 3880. I had the 3000. The 3000 prints beautifully and you can print on ink jet ready cd's. The 3880 cannot. I don't use roll paper but as you are probably aware the 3880 cannot use roll. The big plus of the 3880 is it can print 16x20 (3000 cannot), same inks but the tank capacity of the 3880 is about 2.5 times larger than the 3000 so ink is cheaper. The 3880 comes with full size ink cartridges, the 3000 I believe comes with the smaller ones. The major difference is build quality. The 3880 is a tank. The 3000 not so much. My print head or something went bad after 3 years use with the 3000. Not worth fixing. I have been told and would have to agree, do not leave the printers idle for more than a week. I have a 5 year old r380 that I use everyday and it is still going strong. It also prints great and it was $89. The inks cost more than the printer. The prints with either are phenomenal. I am waiting for epson to make a printer that won't have to waste ink when switching from matte to photo and visa versa. Maybe there is a reason for that other than robbery.

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Jun 15, 2014 15:36:15   #
Ventura Sam
 
I Chose the R3000 and an delighted with the print results. The R3000 was an upgrade from a 2200. You wont be disappointed.

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Jun 15, 2014 16:13:49   #
loveandpeace Loc: Southeast Iowa
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'd like to know why Canon is selling these printers for bargain basement prices. This rebate has been going on for months. I know they make money from the ink, but that's nothing unusual.


I own both the Canon Pro-100 and the Epson R3000. I've found when comparing the Bill Atkinson’s printer test for each printer that the results are so close to identical that you can't tell which came from which printer, even though the Canon uses dye ink and the Epson uses pigment inks. Supposedly pigment inks produce better b&w prints, but with these two printers, I haven't noticed a significant difference in b&w quality.

That said, there are many other factors to consider: cost of ink for ea printer, archival potential of the inks, printer longevity, ease of use, etc. Since David has a healthy budget for a new printer, he might as well go for the R38800, which can print bigger photos and, like the R3000, has a fabulous track record. For those on a tighter budget, you really can't go wrong with the Canon Pro100, which is such a good deal that many people are suspicious of it, but no fear . . . it's a great performer.

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