mechengvic Loc: SoCalo

What I am observing is that, if someone is "trolling" then the best thing you can do to/for that person is ignore them. You're doing exactly what he wants!!! You've got his hook lodged deep in your neck and you are thrashing like crazy! Why is it that this is what you save your efforts for, pulling quotes out for and making several posts to his thread? Don't you know that hating on him only makes him famous?!

Coyote9269 Loc: USA

In the basic sense of this question it's like asking who is happier the guy who drives a KIA or a BMW. There is no answer to the question. In today's modern world for many people its about the instant gratification of getting the picture and getting it online 30 seconds before it happened. Hell news agencies buy cell phone pictures and video and use them on the web. If we think about it this instant gratification trend started with the instant poloroid camera.

When my house was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy I bought a Cannon Power shot was very impressed with the results. It was well worth the money to document my damages. Being able to take pictures and video with my cell phone has bailed my butt out of trouble more than once. When I decided to get back into photography I played with a d3100 great camera but to me required to many steps shooting in manuel mode. After some research I decided on my D800. Would I have liked one of the flagship Cannon or Nikon cameras ?? Yes but I don't have the kind of money. Is my camera over kill ?? Perhaps since I will probably never need a bill board sized image.

For many of us here it is about us getting the shot our self. We're no different than a mountain climber. We do it because we want to .

dsturr

That's the standard advice. Same for telephone scammers and JWs at the door. Advice which I totally ignore. I don't hate any of them and to be honest would actually miss them.

This guy really isn't very good at it (his skin is a bit too thin) and from the outburst I quoted it's obvious that criticism is not exactly what he's looking for.

In this case you've reached the wrong conclusion based on what appears to be insufficient sampling. See if you can find a quote of mine comparable to his outburst. Check out a few of his outbursts directed at me, note the responses and see who's choking on the hook (thrashing as you put it).

Coincidentally I was once a physics (and math) student (early '60s). Do they still use Halliday and Resnick?





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dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I wonder how much of a, Study, you have put into this. Seeing a few photos on Facebook doesn't seem to give a definitive answer in my opinion. Perhaps you are in an older age group and the friends you share don't care to spend retirement dollars on expensive cameras. A group in their 30's might love cell phone photos. Are you measuring fun of the person in the photograph or the person taking the photograph?

I have 3 high end DSLR's and enjoy every one of them. I can go from macro to point and shoot, to telephoto and get great pictures. Basically I can do anything I want with every one of the cameras I own. Yes I realize that a bridge camera owner can say the same thing as well as a point and shoot 4 MP camera owner. You know what; my mother could do everything she wanted to do with her old box camera in the late 1940's. My point is that each of us wants to do different things with our cameras and we expect different results. For some people extreme sharpness will matter. For others bright colors in a sunrise are all they care about. They might not care about sharpness. That is all well and good as long as they are satisfied with their pictures and I am satisfied with mine. Do you for a minute think every owner of the old Kodak 110 cameras were unsatisfied. I have met people who loved the pictures that cheapest of cameras would take. Then again many people hated the resulting pictures.

The only thing that matters is not what camera takes the photograph but is the photograph acceptable to each of us.

Dennis

Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC

I am not bipolar, but I do undergo occasional mood shifts. The nice part of having a variety of camera types is I can pick up whatever camera fits my degree of happiness on any given day. The 4/3 is especially good for those ho-hum days between the DSLR and superzoom ends of my happiness spectrum. I also know I will never be truly happy until I buy some "L glass", and then be spotted by another true Photographer, who then asks me for some Grey Poupon. Now that's happiness! One the other ens, my most depressing moment was when my pinhole photos were disqualified from a science fair because the judges refused to believe I didn't use a "real" camera. The judges must have been Photographers and did not appreciate the skills or the fun that can be a part of amateur picture taking. (If Canon readers detect some repressed envy, they are correct--I admit I use Nikon and will likely never own L glass. But I still get a little high from saying "bokeh".)

highraven

As a newcomer to this site and one that is enjoying a great deal, I am learning much more than just "how do I take this picture"? ... or "what is the best lens to use"?
It seems to me that the fact we are having this discussion indicates there is more to photography than just taking a picture. I am over 70. I built my first darkroom when I was 14. Over the years I have enjoyed film a lot. Presently I have 3 Nikons, My favorite is the F100 and a 645 Pro Med. Format. I want to move to digital. I am learning something new every time I pick up a camera but also I learn every time I see one of the photos posted her.
To me the "gear" is just a tool. If all you see is a "nail" then any hammer will do. But I as interested in the inspiration of photography and "seeing" the world than in just camera and lens. Saying that, I still want a good hammer.

sirlensalot Loc: Arizona

There are a few ways to analyze your post. Less fighting about P&S because not many are on this site that I know of, unless you are including those that use one as a second or third camera? Bridge camera owners may be growing, but are still a minute percentage of camera owners, so guessing there is less people to argue? So is the point of your post to provoke arguments? Lol

mechengvic Loc: SoCalo

I try not support or partake in more serious bouts of name calling or bullying or putting down, and I believe, like you do, that those with the thinnest of skins may sometimes respond as such...

With that being said, I have read some of Mr. Racmanaz's more "colorful" comments, and also some of his more eloquent ones. I guess when you deal with those more "passionate" folks you will experience a wide range of their sentiment. It sounds like you and he have a bit of a tennis match going...

You made my skin crawl with the mention of Halliday and Resnick! Although we don't use their textbooks (we use Serway and Jewett), there is a never ending stream of references to their work by the instructors...

billwassmann Loc: Emerson, NJ

Bokeh, shmokeh. Buying a lens for what it looks like out of focus is about the dumbest thing in photography.

katkase Loc: Grapeview, WA

I use bridge and P&S because it is what I can afford and if I had the money I would have invested in the DSLR cameras and the lenses. But I do not have the funds so I make good use with what I have. My flickr account is shot through point and shoot cameras and I am proud of my body of work.

anotherview Loc: California

Individuals who organize their lives in terms of fun and entertainment will obviously experience their day with a less-developed critical view of a technical activity like photography.

Such individuals will more likely want to enjoy the moment of recording an image of something that interests them, nearly heedless of the involved technical matters. We call them snapshooters.

Camera companies make millions of dollars by selling point-and-shoot cameras catering to this set. Phone cameras represent the next iteration in this marketing quest for dollars.

A serious, experienced photographer will have advanced himself in doing photography by his having gained photographic skills and craft in order to produce worthy photographs. This effort takes 10 years, according to the photographer Minor White. Others have said as much. We identify this set as photographers.

Enough said.

GaryS1964 Loc: Northern California

I had and still have a Panasonic bridge camera. It was my first decent digital camera. It took really nice pics and had a really useful zoom range. However when compared side by side with my current DSLR for IQ and depth of color there is no comparison.

I don't know if bridge camera users are happier but I do not believe the majority of them are, as already mentioned, truly into photography as a hobby or a pro. Bridge cameras are great walk around cameras for those that just want to document where they have been and what they saw. They are generally light and easy to carry, require no additional accessories, have a very useful zoom range, and the best take good sharp colorful images when printed up to 8x10 or viewed on a monitor especially if a little PP is applied.

Maybe they just seem happier because they are more into what they are doing unrelated to photography and much less concerned about getting the shot.

n3eg Loc: West coast USA

What about 4/3 isn't real? It has interchangeable lenses (including adapted full size lenses), it's only one size down from APS-C/DX, has 16MP, fast autofocus, doesn't waste size in flange distance, shows you what the sensor sees, is easy to carry, and so on. For me, it's as real as anything else. And yes, I pixel peep all the time.

It even has bokeh.

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

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Another mine is better photography geek....

I had and still have a Yashica Electro 35G range Finder camera... I haven't used it since 1999 but would to this day, put its images up against a Leica of the same vintage at any time...

In the day it cost me (if I remember right) $73.00 while a Leica would have cost me at least 5 times that amount... I currently take my images with an Olympus TG-2 which takes great pictures, but not as great as a $7000.00 DSLR, but then it only cost me $329.00.............I have a GREAT DEAL OF FUN and it takes VERY good pictures....

Enjoy what you have and get better (more expensive) as you desire..

Mike

mechengvic Loc: SoCalo

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