First, the OP doesn't seem to think that the decision to deploy troops in the decision of the elected leaders. What about the troops that Obama has deployed into harms way under the exact same circumstances that you alluded to in the original posts. More than likely, you voted for him (or would have if you werent of age to vote). I would bet that during the Vietnam era, you voted (or would have voted for LBJ). That is where the responsibility lies. The average you troop will stand and go where he is told to go, and fight who he is told to fight. He cannot question weather its right or wrong.

One little correction to your original post. I was on Urgent Fury (Grenada), there were AMERICAN citizens being held against their will that deserved the protection of their country. Ask them about their freedoms begin threatened.

Its real easy so sit back and try to arm chair quarterback, maybe you should have gotten into the mix, then your words would have more meaning.

Signed, Proud US Marine

I can't but agree with this analysis. I've lived outside the US since 1975 in various parts of the world, and have found it interesting to be free of the a priori assumptions agreed upon by the US media. I live now half the year in China and half in Japan with lots of travel in the region. Each country, whether "free" like Japan or authoritarian like China has a clear bias in information dissemination. In China, the censorship and spin are very clear, in Japan and the US the spin is much more sophisticated, although now with the great polarity on the US, cracks are appearing in the facade.

The militarism of the US is increasing for many reasons, and one of them has to do with the armament industry, in which the US is the world leader. Wars are not only strategic in a geopolitical sense, they allow the US to showcase their weaponry to potential buyers. Somehow that fact never gets mentioned in country, but it is common knowledge outside the US.

Wednesday May 28th, 2014 informationliberation.com
American Soldiers Did Not Die Defending Our Freedom (Jacob G. Hornberger)

I was at the Washington Nationals baseball game yesterday. Whenever I attend a Nats game, there is an air of militarism surrounding the game, but attending on Memorial Day helps to remind us what a truly militarized society America has become.

After all, what in the world does baseball, a quite peaceful and enjoyable pastime, have to do with America's countless foreign wars, which have killed, tortured, and maimed millions of people?

One of the most fascinating aspects to U.S. militarism is the bromide that has infected the minds of so many Americans: that U.S. soldiers have sacrificed their lives or limbs in foreign wars to "defend our freedom" here at home. Not surprisingly, it was repeated at the Nationals game yesterday. People who came to watch a baseball game were asked to remember the sacrifices, including deaths, that American servicemen have made in the "defense of our freedom."

Why do I find that fascinating?

Two reasons: first, The bromide is palpably false, and, second, it is a testament to the power of state to indoctrinate the citizenry.

This is a bromide that is inculcated into every child, from the time he reaches six years of age and heads into the public (i.e., government) school system. By the time the kid reaches his teen years, the indoctrination is taking hold. By the time he becomes an adult, the indoctrination is complete. In fact, the indoctrination is so perfect that actually it doesn't matter what the troops are doing overseas. Whatever they are doing is automatically considered to be "defending our freedom."

Consider a hypothetical. Suppose there is some country thousands of miles away that is minding its own business. There are no attacks on the United States or even threats to attack the United States. The only problem is that the regime is not sufficiently submissive to the U.S. government.

The U.S. government decides to invade the country and install a pro-U.S. regime. The troops are sent into battle. Some are killed. Countless more people are killed on the other side.

There is no doubt that millions of Americans will automatically conclude that those U.S. troops killed and died "defending our freedom," notwithstanding the fact that our freedom was never at risk. Remember: that hypothetical country never attacked the United States or even threatened to do so. Yet, many Americans will nonetheless honor their brave and courageous soldiers who died or lost arms or legs while "defending our freedom." It is how the indoctrinated mind works.

How can I be so certain that that's the way many Americans would react to that hypothetical situation?

Because that's what happened with Iraq, a country whose government never attacked the United States or even threatened to do so. Thus, not one single U.S. soldier died in Iraq "defending our freedom" because our freedom was never threatened by Iraq.

The same holds true for the 58,000 plus American soldiers who died in the Vietnam War. North Vietnam was engaged in a civil war against South Vietnam. At no time did North Vietnam attack or invade the United States. It had no interest in doing so and, anyway, it lacked the military capability to do so. The U.S. government invaded Vietnam and embroiled itself in its civil war. At no time were the freedoms of the American people threatened by the North Vietnamese. The American troops who were sent to the deaths in Vietnam did not die in the defense of our freedom here at home.

The same is true for the tens of thousands of American men who were sent to their deaths in the Korean War. North Korea never attacked or invaded the United States or even threatened to do so. American freedom here at home was never threatened. Thus, those U.S. soldiers in Korea did not die defending our freedom.

What about the soldiers who died in the U.S. invasion of Panama or Grenada? Again, Panama and Granada never attacked the United States or even threatened to do so. Those troops did not die in the defense of our freedom.

World War I? At no time did Germany or Austria-Hungary attack the United States or even threaten to do so. The Great War was a war between empires, one that never endangered the freedom of the American people. The U.S. government simply chose to intervene in that conflict in the hopes of "making the world safe for democracy" and to "end all wars." Those U.S. soldiers who died in World War I did not die defending our freedom.

What about the so-called "good war"--World War II. While Japan attacked U.S. forces at Pearl Harbor and the Philippines, the attack was a direct consequence of President Roosevelt's repeated attempts to induce Japan to attack the United States to fulfill his wish to get the United States into the war. FDR had imposed an oil embargo on Japan, frozen Japanese bank accounts in the United States, and imposed humiliating terms in pre-war negotiations with Japan, all with the aim of getting Japan to "fire the first shot" so that the United States could get into the war. Japan never had the aim or the military means of invading and occupying the United States and depriving the American people of their freedom.

What about Nazi Germany? It desired to avoid war with the United States, which is why FDR used Japan as a "back door" to war. The only reason Germany declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor was to fulfill its treaty obligations to Japan. Before England declared war on Germany, it was clear that Hitler was moving east toward the Soviet Union, not west toward the United States. Moreover, since Germany lacked the military means to cross the English Channel and invade England, how in the world would it cross the Atlantic Ocean and invade the United States?

Moreover, consider the aftermath of World War II: East Germany and Eastern Europe and China all under communist control. Isn't that what American soldiers actually died for--so that the communists, rather than the Nazis or Japanese, could control those parts of the world? Even if one finds that a worthy thing to die for, it's a far cry from dying in the defense of our freedom here at home.

Oh, I almost forgot Afghanistan. No, al-Qaeda was never going to invade and occupy the United States and take away our freedom. Neither was the Taliban. The 9/11 attacks were retaliation for actions taken by the U.S. government in the Middle East prior to 9/11. The Taliban government never attacked the United States or even threatened to do so.

The truth, as discomforting as it is, is that the many U.S soldiers who have been sacrificed in America's countless foreign wars did not die defending our freedom. That's nothing more than a false bromide used to justify America's never-ending foreign wars.

When enough people break through the indoctrination, as libertarians have, the bromide will no longer have the power it does over people's minds. At that point, maybe Americans will be free to enjoy baseball games and other sporting events without all the militarism attached to them.
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Jacob G. Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom Foundation. He was born and raised in Laredo, Texas, and received his B.A. in economics from Virginia Military Institute and his law degree from the University of Texas. He was a trial attorney for twelve years in Texas. He also was an adjunct professor at the University of Dallas, where he taught law and economics. In 1987, Mr. Hornberger left the practice of law to become director of programs at the Foundation for Economic Education. He has advanced freedom and free markets on talk-radio stations all across the country as well as on Fox News' Neil Cavuto and Greta van Susteren shows and he appeared as a regular commentator on Judge Andrew Napolitano's show Freedom Watch. View these interviews at LewRockwell.com and from Full Context. Send him email.

The anti America diatribe I see in this post sickens me like none I have ever read.
I spent almost 13 years in the Marine Corps to help give you the right to freedom of speech and would have gladly given my life to help protect that right. I still feel that way today.
Even though your anti American bullsh#t sickens me more than any other I have read on this site, I totally support your right to say it.
I don't hate anti Americans, in fact I don't actually hate anyone or anything. Anything except war. I know what war is, and I know what war can do. I also know what others around the world can do to people that sit around, like yourselves, and try to intelligently discuss what is going on around them, without actually standing up and doing something about it.
There will always be people in the world looking to force others to do and say what they don't want to do or say. And I thank God there will always be people, like me and others, that are willing to stand up and put our lives on the line to stop them.
I did not attach, or address my comment to any one particular person, as I did not want to be visualized, or accused of attacking any one person. But I am proud of the fact that I am willing to stand up and do everything in my power to stop someone wronging another. I'm proud of the fact I would do anything in my power to right a wrong, up to and including giving my life in the process.
I don't have a college education. I don't have a sheep skin on my wall. But I have put my life on the line to help protect a brother. I have been recognized by my country for so called heroic actions. And I know the difference between right or wrong. To me, someone is wrong for running to another country to avoid being called up in the draft, but I understand their wanting to do so. Whether out of fear for their lives, or because of political beliefs. But I could not do it myself.
I wish there were no wars in this world. I wish there were no more people in the world bent on killing others just because they don't believe in the same things. But that's not reality. That's not the way things are.
If you don't like, and don't support our country I would like to challenge you to find one better. Try and find another country that supports your right to spout all the crap you have here in this post, and I'm sure in others. Try and find another country that supports it's citizens like this country does.
I don't agree with everything this country does. I know we are fed lies, and I know there are things that need change.but I still support it, and would put my life on the line to protect it. I'm also glad there are ALOT of people out there just like me. They are putting their lives on the line each and every day so that those of you that want to talk as much crap as you are can continue. And I thank God for each and every one of them. SEMPER FI!!!