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May 25, 2014 11:18:15   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Capture48 wrote:
Not sure what you mean, but LR is NOT a RAW only program. Yes it can read RAW files as JEG as it can PSD, TIFF and more.
And video, including AVCHD.

For those with a video button on their camera, you can take clips and put them in LR just like photos. Then adjust them, trim them and output a video complete with a title screen, a credit screen and soundtrack.

Lightroom calls it a "slideshow", not a "video".

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May 25, 2014 11:24:01   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
I use PSP too but I first process my RAW files in Lightroom.
bwilliams wrote:
I use psp 6 and am starting to shoot in raw. Would there be an advantage using a raw only program like light room or I am thinking photo ninja?

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May 25, 2014 11:31:38   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Of course there is. LR is one of the most popular programs made. It handles raw images the way they should be handled.

I use PSP and it too seems to handle raw images as they should be handled. But maybe I just don't know what LR does that PSP cannot do.

I'd like to find out from someone familiar with both programs.

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May 25, 2014 11:51:48   #
mkahn
 
As previously stated, Lightroom and Photoshop are complementary. The Raw Processing step (Bridge in Photoshop) uses the same engine in both, so you will get the same results. The latest edition of LR allows some decent local processing in addition to the global processing.
The advantage of LR is that everything is non destructive, and it is easy find and batch process images. I find that it is much faster to work in LR than Photoshop (Bridge). I select images to process in Lightroom and then edit about 70% within Lightroom. The remainder, I finish in Photoshop. By choosing "Edit in", the images are opened in Photoshop, and when saved from Photoshop are then brought back into Lightroom.
Using Lightroom, you will use two programs (Lightroom and Photoshop), but you are currently using two programs (Lightroom and Bridge).

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May 25, 2014 11:52:06   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
For me I try to do as much as I can in LR. Then finish if needed in Photoshop CC. Of course my goal is to do very little in either one.

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May 25, 2014 11:54:24   #
Agedwell Loc: Austin
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Lightroom and Photoshop serve different purposes and complement each other.

Thank you, amfoto1. I've never used any of them and have often wondered about what each does. Yours is the very best explanation I've seen. A great help!!

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May 25, 2014 12:38:59   #
mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
 
bwilliams wrote:
I use psp 6 and am starting to shoot in raw. Would there be an advantage using a raw only program like light room or I am thinking photo ninja?


I have been shooting RAW for a few years and I am using Lightroom 5.4. I never did try PSP 6 or earlier. Lightroom has all the tools I need.

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May 25, 2014 12:46:59   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
Capture One Pro

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May 25, 2014 14:13:25   #
rebride
 
Mudshark wrote:
Capture One Pro


Capture One is on sale right now, half price. Express 7 is only $49.00.
Complementing PSP 6 with either Raw Therapee, Photo Ninja, or Capture One would make for a nice bit of kit.
Adding Lightroom is rather redundant.

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May 25, 2014 15:34:51   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
I learned to photograph in the last 5 years. was told to shoot raw from the beginning which I did. I used PSE8 to alter exposure and the rest of PSE to cook up a decent picture over the top of my mistakes. - the more you do the more you learn. used PSE11 and it has a little edge on 8 but it died on my old computer and hasn't been replaced so sticking with 8
bought L R 4 just when 5 came out. It does things slightly different but nothing outstanding to date. the organisation side is wasted on me - I don't rate my pictures and I don't even change their file names that often. I keep them in year folders and month folders. once in a while I look to see what 'I was going to work on but didn't' and delete. My stock improves that way.

I have no idea why someone would batch process. If you shoot that many photographs incorrectly consistantly perhaps you need one of those 'special' cameras that folks keep asking about. I don't think I will be using presets in LR either - certainly not buying other people's when I could simply save some of my own.

I've seen the work topaz does in PSE and could wish for it but haven't mastered plug ins yet - too busy writing essays on UHH.

Thing to look for: Is your camera listed in the Raw converter, will it read and adjust your lenses? Adobe generally has a quick response to new cameras but doesn't always do every model. THAT might be an important first step in your decision.

good luck

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May 25, 2014 17:43:42   #
GaryS1964 Loc: Northern California
 
pixbyjnjphotos wrote:
I use a free program called Raw Therapee to initially process raw photos and then save out as tif files. Try it out for yourself. It is free and pretty comprehensive.


I agree. It has a lot of PP tools in addition to just converting RAW images. Considering it's free why would you want to pay $100+ or - for a commercial program? Give it a try and compare the results with PSP.

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May 25, 2014 18:25:10   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
pixbyjnjphotos wrote:
I understand that lightroom is not only a RAW program. The OP indicates he already has PSP and I was merely suggesting RAW Therapee for free instead of paying more for lightroom.


I use Lightroom 5, I have used Nikon View NX2 and Nikon Capture NX2, but Lightroom is my main processing program now. I will, occasionally go to Capture NX2 for things that I haven't figured out in Lightroom yet, but I HIGHLY recommend Lightroom as the mainstay for processing, organizing, and creating slideshows etc.

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May 25, 2014 19:15:41   #
deneke
 
Think of Raw as the negative of film days. RAW captures all the detail in the sensor of a given camera and format, be it Dx or Fx, APS, 4/3rds or whatever. It takes post-processing (PP) to develop a useful visual image in both media. In film days it took additional, or subtraction of light (exposure), liquid chemicals and lots of water and drying time to process a useful image. In our current digital era, post processing is the equivalent of "developing" the negative of film days. It's print output has several formats, such as: jpeg, tiff, png, etc. Jpeg is popular for its expedient usage for email illustrations, web sites, commercial advertising and the like. It losses data (information) every incident it's opened, and/or closed; thus generally having a shorter life. Tiff files, however, have long archival life and is the only format that the National Park Service accepts for listing a historical resource for listing in its National Register of Significant Artifacts and Places. That criterion alone should tell you something. The downside of that longer longevity of its data is its larger file size. Prints of babies, children, family members and places and things subject to change are appropriately shot and printed in tiff, ping, etc. formats.

Deneke~

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May 25, 2014 20:36:01   #
leftyD500 Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
pixbyjnjphotos wrote:
I also use PSP X6 Ultimate. I think PSP's raw module is a little weak so, I use a free program called Raw Therapee to initially process raw photos and then save out as tif files. Try it out for yourself. It is free and pretty comprehensive.


GThanks a lot for this suggestion, I tried to download the program and got a virus that i cannot get rid of, and won't let me log in on my home page on my web site. Thank you kindly!

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May 27, 2014 15:10:08   #
GaryS1964 Loc: Northern California
 
jradose wrote:
GThanks a lot for this suggestion, I tried to download the program and got a virus that i cannot get rid of, and won't let me log in on my home page on my web site. Thank you kindly!


Sorry to hear that. What website did you download it from?

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