Gun Question (Page 12): yes I know it was general chit chat but still thought that since it was about photography maybe you would have been talking about how to take a picture of a gun...

Babby Blair Loc: Highmore, SD

yes I know it was general chit chat but still thought that since it was about photography maybe you would have been talking about how to take a picture of a gun not the basic usage of it. Not that I'm against guns. I have a few myself and know how to use them. I may also add that I will NEVER give them up and believe in my RIGHT TO OWN AND BARE ARMS. They are not dangerous if you know how to use them. there are no bad guns just bad people. :thumbup:

warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA

WereWolf1967 wrote:

Ah Yes,

The Venerable M-1 Garand. I've gotten a few M-1 "Thumbs" from being too slow.

9.5 Lbs.

DickC Loc: NE Washington state

edfed wrote:

Jerry,

I was in Nam and when we were on patrol, we kept our finger on the guard and not on the trigger. If you inadvertantly stepped in a hole with your finger on the trigerr, two things could happen: One you could fire your weapon and alert the enemy to your position, and or two, you could accidently shoot your fellow solider in front of you. Obviously. neither one a good senario.

This is the way we did it too, but in an urban situation it is advisable to keep finger alongside the trigger guard until you determine whether its a good guy or a bad guy! :-)

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

DickC wrote:

This is the way we did it too, but in an urban situation it is advisable to keep finger alongside the trigger guard until you determine whether its a good guy or a bad guy! :-)

An urban situation? How many of us are going to be caught up in an urban situation? Are we still talking movies here? Can I keep my finger on the trigger if I am out hunting Zombies?

I live alone. If someone is breaking into my home then he is the bad guy. The finger will be on the trigger.

At a Gun Range the situation will be different - finger along side trigger guard and keep it there till ready to fire. Don't forget your eye and ear protection.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Bangee5 wrote:

An urban situation? How many of us are going to be caught up in an urban situation? Are we still talking movies here? Can I keep my finger on the trigger if I am out hunting Zombies?

I live alone. If someone is breaking into my home then he is the bad guy. The finger will be on the trigger.

At a Gun Range the situation will be different - finger along side trigger guard and keep it there till ready to fire. Don't forget your eye and ear protection.

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jjwright71 Loc: Lubbock,Tx

sb wrote:

It is a safety issue. People have has the trigger of their Glock catch on their clothing. I personally didn't like the idea of having a round in the chamber of a weapon with no safety, so I traded my Glock in for a Beretta. Not only does it have a safety, it won't fire if the magazine is removed, which is a major cause of accidental shooting deaths.

well i promise you that if i get ready to light of a round ,i mean for all16 rounds to be present ,and i may need then in place ,HAR!

Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now

raferrelljr wrote:

Ain't it the truth.HAHAHAHAHA!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Ain't it a Bitch ?

WereWolf1967 Loc: Knoxville, TN

imntrt1 wrote:

Off the trigger until ready to send a round toward... (show quote)

You must have really ticked someone off to be permanent point man.

marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL

Spindrift62 wrote:

While we are on the subject of gun firing methods, when did the ridiculous sideways on, barrel sloping towards the ground become the norm? I never had many dealings with automatic pistols, but wouldn't the shell casing be ejected into the shooters face with this sloppy droopy hold which now seems to be the regulation hold for all criminal types on TV?

From what I understand that's called the "gangsta" style of firing commonly used by street gangs and it's worthless. There's no way to aim properly, no way to hold the gun steady because of gravity and weight versus wrist strength, etc. I watched a surveillance video of a real shoot out in a bar in Toledo before I moved away and they showed 20 people inside and outside of the place firing at each other. After several minutes of this the police showed up to stop it and NONE of the 20 involved had been hit by any bullet. That's really lame.

My brother had a shoot out in his retail store with him using a standard stance and two hand grip on his .45ACP 1911-style Kimber. The assailant was using one hand and sideways "gangsta" style with a revolver. His one shot missed my brother by almost 4 feet. My brother hit him 4 out of 5 times. I think that pretty well tells the story.

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

WereWolf1967 wrote:

You must have really ticked someone off to be permanent point man.

It was my choice.....I liked it because I then felt the job was being done right....several of them at my retirement party said the same thing...They knew that with me going in to secure things they were going to go into a safer environment when they entered...."Things were going to be okay" was the way they worded it. That was quite a compliment for me because almost all the members of our Detective Bureau were veterans of police shootings and one guy was a combat marine in Vietnam. Closest we came to a bad ending was going through the door on the first floor, facing a flight of stairs to the Apartment where we were serving the warrant. The bad guy stepped out onto the landing above and pointed a shotgun at us coming up the stairs. For whatever the reason, he retreated instead of spraying all of us with shotgun pellets.

Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada

I may be a bit late , but my son teaches fire arms handling in Ottawa to new custom officers . he says the only time you keep your finger on the trigger is when your in battle . never when your busting a door down. and
any one who answer's otherwise on a test fails

Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada

DougW wrote:

You want a little cheese with that whine?

You got a problem with 10 pages?
Select unwatch at the top of the page

not really as im on the first page or there abouts and if I comment , I may say the same thing as u . then you can wine that I copied you .

DougW Loc: SoCal

Bram boy wrote:

not really as im on the first page or there abouts and if I comment , I may say the same thing as u . then you can wine that I copied you .

No cause you'll be on page 12 or 13

Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip

jerryc41 wrote:

My son is going to be a local production of Miss S... (show quote)

When handling a firearm it is unwise to have your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire a round, therefore the trigger finger should be outside of the trigger guard.
Some weapons have a very light trigger pull, some much heavier. When in a combat situation, adrenalin is present and even a firm trigger pull can result in an unintended round being fired. When it is necessary to fire a round then the trigger is engaged.
On several of my target weapons the trigger pull is measured in ounces rather than pounds. My hunting rifles are as low as 3 pounds, My combat weapons are 5-6 pounds. Still substantially below factory settings.
PS only a qualified armorer should attempt to change the trigger pull of any weapon.
To eliminate trigger creep is as far as most shooters will ever need.
Trigger snaps like breaking glass

Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip

marcomarks wrote:

From what I understand that's called the "gan... (show quote)

Had the "gangsta's" had the benefit of US Army Basic Training they would have learned firearms protocol and perhaps the story might have been different.
Good that the low-life's do not watch war movies or combat footage.