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Apr 30, 2014 06:44:52   #
Ares23 Loc: Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
My son is going to be a local production of Miss Saigon in a couple of weeks, and there is some dispute about placement of the trigger finger. As we see on TV and in movies, the trigger finger is often placed next to, rather than on, the trigger for safety reasons. If you're in a battle situation, you want your finger on the trigger, right? Is there a general rule about that?

Also, when did that "finger near the trigger" practice begin? It seems like a relatively new thing on TV.
My son is going to be a local production of Miss S... (show quote)


Any gun safety course you go through will teach you to keep your finger on the guard not the trigger. If you go through a concealed carry course which is the only way you will get one issued to you, it's finger on the guard. Boot camp same thing. It's all for safeties sake, finger is only on the trigger when the target is acquired and you are ready to shoot.

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Apr 30, 2014 06:51:32   #
larryg Loc: Central Wi.
 
Most modern revolvers have safeties indeed. Safety position is achieved by having the hammer in the half cocked position. While in this position, no matter how hard you pull the trigger the hammer will not move. It also spaces the hammer away from the firing pin so if the weapon is dropped the hammer cannot accidently strike the pin.

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Apr 30, 2014 06:56:15   #
RetiredPhotog Loc: South West Ohio
 
Bangee5 wrote:
I believe in real life in that situation the finger would be on trigger. Makes more sense.



As a firearms instructor we teach students not to have their finger on the trigger until your weapon is extended you are ready to discharge it. You can have your finger on the frame off the trigger and ready to fire as quick as you extend your weapon. Big reason for that is what we call the startle reflex. Lets say if your going through your home looking for an intruder (finger in the trigger) and a family member comes around the corner and startles you, your muscles will tighten and if your finger is on the trigger you may have just accidentally discharged your weapon and possible taken out a family member. This has happened and even locally to a police officer that didn't follow the safety rule.

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Apr 30, 2014 07:06:54   #
roadapplemax Loc: Browns Valley Ca
 
You're right Larry. But if I had a hammer I wouldn't go off half-cocked. I usually carry a hammerless LCR. It's
a great lightweight .38 spcl with rounded corners so it
doesn't get caught up in a pocket. It's +P with laser. I have
been carrying since '66 and this is the handiest little gun I
ever had. Try one.

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Apr 30, 2014 07:07:50   #
colin mikesell Loc: ohio
 
Bangee5 wrote:
I have a Glock 19. I am told that I should chamber a round at all times but for safety shake I don't. Of course I keep finger off trigger until ready to go on target and fire but if my intent is to search and destroy shouldn't my finger be on trigger?


BIG...BIG mistake.....you should always have a round in the chamber....it's one less thing you need to remember in a stress situation....one in the chamber with safety on...first, in a stress moment are you going to remember to chamber a round and turn safety off????/hmmmmm...what do you think?????...and remember when you chamber that round of rack the slide on your 12 gauge next to your bed YOU JUST TOLD THE BAD GUY WHERE TO FIRE......nice knowing you....YOU ARE NOW DEAD.......

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Apr 30, 2014 07:41:11   #
colin mikesell Loc: ohio
 
FORGET ALL THE CRAP THESE GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT....HERE IS THE PROPER WAY TO SHOOT A SEMI AUTOMATIC HAND GUN.....YOU CAN THANK ME LATER.......

http://youtu.be/TfBWMv1kFPk

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Apr 30, 2014 07:48:02   #
jjwright71 Loc: Lubbock,Tx
 
Bangee5 wrote:
I have a Glock 19. I am told that I should chamber a round at all times but for safety shake I don't. Of course I keep finger off trigger until ready to go on target and fire but if my intent is to search and destroy shouldn't my finger be on trigger?
why ,does you gun just go off by it's self if ya gots a round at battery?? HAR!

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Apr 30, 2014 07:48:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
colin mikesell wrote:
FORGET ALL THE CRAP THESE GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT....HERE IS THE PROPER WAY TO SHOOT A SEMI AUTOMATIC HAND GUN.....YOU CAN THANK ME LATER.......

http://youtu.be/TfBWMv1kFPk

He must be a tech advisor for TV. I like how he said to rotate the gun 90° clockwise, and then he turned it counterclockwise. :D

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Apr 30, 2014 07:48:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Thanks, everyone. The finger is off the trigger till it's time to shoot.

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Apr 30, 2014 07:55:21   #
colin mikesell Loc: ohio
 
mikeg492 wrote:
I can't think of a single model sold today without a safety. What are they?


ONE I CAN THINK OF RIGHT OFF HAND IS MY S/W 40.....NO SAFETY....AND THERE ARE OTHERS....NOT ALL HAND GUNS HAVE A SAFETY......

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Apr 30, 2014 08:00:59   #
johnsnap1947 Loc: New Fairfield, CT
 
Some of todays guns have extremely sensitive triggers (hair trigger). The slightest amount of pressure or even dropping it could have a disastrous effect. Even putting the gun back in your holster can trigger the trigger..Keep your finger off of it.

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Apr 30, 2014 08:05:39   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Yep, thats the protocol. Once engaged, finger was on the trigger.

Ready on the right, ready on the left, ready on the firing line, lock and load, ready aim fire!



edfed wrote:
Jerry,

I was in Nam and when we were on patrol, we kept our finger on the guard and not on the trigger. If you inadvertantly stepped in a hole with your finger on the trigerr, two things could happen: One you could fire your weapon and alert the enemy to your position, and or two, you could accidently shoot your fellow solider in front of you. Obviously. neither one a good senario.

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Apr 30, 2014 08:12:05   #
colin mikesell Loc: ohio
 
larryg wrote:
Most modern revolvers have safeties indeed. Safety position is achieved by having the hammer in the half cocked position. While in this position, no matter how hard you pull the trigger the hammer will not move. It also spaces the hammer away from the firing pin so if the weapon is dropped the hammer cannot accidently strike the pin.


I think maybe you are confusing a revolver AKA wheel gun with a semi automatic....any revolver i have ever seen when you pull the hammer back that bad boy is ready to go....a semi has a cock and lock position...or maybe you are thinking of a safety lock where a particular revolver has a type of key that will lock the gun so it can not be fired...any revolver i have ever shot ... when you pull the hammer THEN pull the trigger and the gun goes BANG !!!!!
correct me if i am wrong.....

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Apr 30, 2014 08:31:01   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
colin mikesell wrote:
and remember when you chamber that round of rack the slide on your 12 gauge next to your bed YOU JUST TOLD THE BAD GUY WHERE TO FIRE......nice knowing you....YOU ARE NOW DEAD.......


Well there's two ways to look at that scenario.
The other way is that the bad guy just heard you rack your 12 gauge, pissed himself, and ran out of the house.

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Apr 30, 2014 08:33:57   #
Chris F. Loc: San Francisco
 
Wow, there are many. Smith & Wesson M&P 40 Cal., Kahr Arms ACP 45 Cal are two that I am very familiar with. Both sold today (I can attest to that) in the very tightly gun controlled state of CA! Most revolvers have no safety either. :) :)

Chris



mikeg492 wrote:
I can't think of a single model sold today without a safety. What are they?

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