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Apr 27, 2014 08:06:07   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
My friend, a mortician, just can not wait for the repeal of "Obama care". Without ACA in place more people will die more quickly, thereby protecting the income of small business such as his mortuary and his friend who makes ornate small caskets. He especially loves working on children who die of curable pre-existing conditions, they require very little embalming fluid -- highly profitable.

Like all my fellow Republicans I feel that we should not interfere with a person's right to die and that death is normal. Death should not to be tinkered with by man, especially those radical liberals. AIDS is justice for perverted sex, small pox, typhus, polio, and many other diseases are normal and cleanse the population of the poor class. Work on sickle-cell anemia, is in its self racist, it weeds out unfit, unhealthy blacks... a waste of tax payers money.

Non-Classical Adrenal Hyperplasia, Tay-Sachs Disease, and Torsion Dystonia were cast upon the Jews because they refused to accept Christ as their savior. Certainly, we should not accept them for ACA and spread the cost to good Conservative Christians... and we are a Christian Nation.

Repeal Obama Care for sure. It is not just Oregonians who suffer all of us in this Nation of Christ suffer from ACA.

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Apr 27, 2014 08:09:00   #
mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
 
Gitzo wrote:
Oregon Taxpayers 'Stuck' With Bill From Failed Obamacare Website

Friday, 25 Apr 2014 07:04 PM Article By; / Todd Beamon


Republicans slammed the taxpayer waste from scrapping Oregon's $303 million, problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange on Friday, citing it as yet another example of why the healthcare law should be repealed.

"Once again, Obamacare causes chaos and confusion for Oregonians," Rep. Greg Walden, the state's only GOP member of Congress, said in a statement. "Today, the same board that oversaw the colossal waste at Cover Oregon voted to throw in the towel, and taxpayers are left stuck with the bill.

"The board should explain further to the taxpayers of Oregon and the nation how exactly this massive failure happened."

Jahan Wilcox, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said: "It's remarkable that Cover Oregon was such a disaster that moving into the troubled HealthCare.gov is considered an improvement."

He also referenced U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley's support of the Affordable Care Act in 2010. The Oregon Democrat, who has since distanced himself from the beleaguered law, is seeking re-election this fall.

"Oregonians can give themselves a real upgrade by firing Sen. Jeff Merkley, whose deciding vote for Obamacare resulted in the creation of Cover Oregon," Wilcox said.

The board overseeing the state's Obamacare program, Cover Oregon, on Friday accepted an advisory committee's recommendation to ditch its troubled portal after spending months and millions of dollars on trying to get it to work. Oregon instead will use HealthCare.gov for private policies.

According to Cover Oregon officials, fixing the troubled portal would have cost $78 million and would have taken too long. Using HealthCare.gov, which has had its own share of glitches and problems since the Obamacare rollout, would cost just $4 million to $6 million.

"I don't know that anyone in the room is excited about going down this path," Liz Baxter, who chairs the Cover Oregon board, said in a report in The Oregonian. "But I think it's the only option."

In more than a dozen states that opted to create their own exchanges, Oregon's was seen as the most dysfunctional. It was plagued by technical problems so severe that almost all the 50,000 people who signed up for insurance through the exchange did so using paper applications or with help from a professional.

Right up to the end, Oregonians were not able to use the website to sign up for coverage in one sitting.

Oregon residents instead had to use an arduous paper-online process to sign up for insurance — despite the $134 million the state paid Oracle Corp. to build the online exchange. Oregon received a monthlong enrollment-deadline extension because of the technology problems.

The state enthusiastically embraced Obamacare, and the website had been a pioneer for state marketplaces.

And even though several other states have had major problems with their Obamacare exchanges, only Oregon has voted to scrap it entirely. Maryland recently decided to adopt the technology used on Connecticut's successful exchange.

In March, the Government Accountability Office in Washington said that it would investigate the Oregon exchange, including looking at whether the federal government can reclaim grant money given to Cover Oregon if taxpayer funds were mismanaged.

Officials at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said they were working with Oregon on the next steps in the effort.

Meanwhile, an independent investigation ordered by Gov. John Kitzhaber found state managers repeatedly disregarded reports about technical problems that prevented the Cover Oregon exchange from launching when the Obamacare individual mandate took effect in October.

It also found that Oracle did a poor job in building the exchange's technology. Five Oregon officials connected to website's development have resigned.

Kitzhaber said communications about the portal's troubles never reached him as the Oct. 1 launch neared. The governor said he agreed with the technology advisory committee's recommendation to scrap the website.

State officials said they would keep the Cover Oregon website, redesigning it to direct people to HealthCare.gov. Oregon also will use the federal call center, but it will retain some customer outreach, education efforts and initial carrier management.

Because HealthCare.gov enrolls people only in private health plans, Oregonians who are declared eligible for the Medicaid program for low-income Americans will be redirected to the Oregon Health Authority.

That agency can enroll them in the Oregon Health Plan, Oregon's version of Medicaid.

So far, about 242,000 Oregonians have enrolled in coverage through Cover Oregon. About 70,000 are in private plans, while 172,000 are enrolled in the Oregon Health Plan.


Related Stories:
Once a Leader, Oregon Insurance Exchange Struggles

Republicans Probe 3 States With Failing Obamacare Exchanges
End of article


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In spite of stories like this coming out every day, the ignorant libs keep right on insisting that Obamacare is a "great thing"!

It sure looks like it was a "great thing" for Larry Ellison's Oracle Corp., which scored $134 million to "build" what didn't work, and was then thrown into a dumpster! And libs still can't understand why other people refer to them as being, "low-information", "ignorant", and just plain STUPID!

I repeat......"You can always tell a liberal.......but you can't tell them "much"!

(At least with having any expectation of them actually understanding what you're talking about!)

OK, libs, you can start your usual rants now......(not that anyone will be paying any attention to you. )
Oregon Taxpayers 'Stuck' With Bill From Failed Oba... (show quote)


All taxpayers are going to get stuck with this albatross before it's over

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Apr 27, 2014 08:12:13   #
SBW
 
mikedidi46 wrote:
All taxpayers are going to get stuck with this albatross before it's over


You are absolutely spot on. That is why they have put off many of the provisions of this disastrous law way into the future and AFTER the next two elections.

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Apr 27, 2014 08:41:04   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
mikedidi46, why do you and many other UHH responders feel it is necessary to Quote such lengthy stuff. Do you not assume that people are aware of the subject.

I would like to here more from you regarding your feelings about the ACA and how it corresponds and is likened to the Albatross which is a bird. If you are using it as a metaphor, then you are saying that by killing ACA, Obama Care, that the Republican Party will be cursed and die a horrible death!! Why do you say that? In case you flunked literature in High School please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albatross_%28metaphor%29

The Republican leadership, especially Speaker Boehner and Senate Minority Leader McConnell, sit with The Sword of Damocles ...

My use of the Sword of Damocles refers to an object in a Greek legend that is designed to illustrate the perils of being in a position of power. Held in place by a simple horse hair, form some horses ass, well, if it falls the Republican party dies and will stay dead for three decades. Repealing ACA, may cut that hair... is it worth it?

So that we Republicans will be thought of as knowledgeable rather than stupid and ignorant and un caring, we should educate our selves regarding the proper use of metaphors:
http://www.npr.org/2011/08/19/139799434/sword-of-damocles-reference-sometimes-misused

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Apr 27, 2014 09:02:36   #
larryg Loc: Central Wi.
 
Folks, you need to remember two things about wrestling with a pig in the mud. Number one, everyone is going to get dirty, and two, the pig really enjoys it. Hard to get on board with someone with so many cartoon characters in his arsenal.
About as appealing as Polosi and Reed. It's time for a three party system.
Gitzo refers to us Independents as fence sitters.



Just another Independent fence sitter

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Apr 27, 2014 10:39:02   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
dljen wrote:
You're really digging for this, Gitzo. I thought you were better than this crap.

Why not write your congressmen/women and tell them how you don't want your party to appear to be stupider than they are? Geez, someone needs to tell the conservatives that they just aren't making the right choices in choosing friends. This latest Bundy crap is an example.


You seem to know everything so answer my question:

5 to 6 million lose policies they liked in the opening months of the ACA.

Healthcare.gov cost approximately 634 million to get working. 8 million are signed up, so that is a cost of 7.9 million per subscriber.

Population of the U.S. is 300 million. There were an estimated 43 million uninsured, due mostly to loss of jobs. Eight million signed up for the ACA.

The White House will not release exact figures on how many who signed up never had coverage. Many had no coverage because they could not afford it. How has the ACA changed that?

8 million signed up, so how is that a success?

The only winner here is the insurance industry. How does pointing that out indicate hatred?

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Apr 27, 2014 10:42:52   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
dpullum wrote:
My friend, a mortician, just can not wait for the repeal of "Obama care". Without ACA in place more people will die more quickly, thereby protecting the income of small business such as his mortuary and his friend who makes ornate small caskets. He especially loves working on children who die of curable pre-existing conditions, they require very little embalming fluid -- highly profitable.

Like all my fellow Republicans I feel that we should not interfere with a person's right to die and that death is normal. Death should not to be tinkered with by man, especially those radical liberals. AIDS is justice for perverted sex, small pox, typhus, polio, and many other diseases are normal and cleanse the population of the poor class. Work on sickle-cell anemia, is in its self racist, it weeds out unfit, unhealthy blacks... a waste of tax payers money.

Non-Classical Adrenal Hyperplasia, Tay-Sachs Disease, and Torsion Dystonia were cast upon the Jews because they refused to accept Christ as their savior. Certainly, we should not accept them for ACA and spread the cost to good Conservative Christians... and we are a Christian Nation.

Repeal Obama Care for sure. It is not just Oregonians who suffer all of us in this Nation of Christ suffer from ACA.
My friend, a mortician, just can not wait for the ... (show quote)


Wow! You need professional counseling sir.

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Apr 27, 2014 10:44:33   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Gitzo wrote:
Oregon Taxpayers 'Stuck' With Bill From Failed Obamacare Website

Friday, 25 Apr 2014 07:04 PM Article By; / Todd Beamon


Republicans slammed the taxpayer waste from scrapping Oregon's $303 million, problem-plagued Obamacare health exchange on Friday, citing it as yet another example of why the healthcare law should be repealed.

"Once again, Obamacare causes chaos and confusion for Oregonians," Rep. Greg Walden, the state's only GOP member of Congress, said in a statement. "Today, the same board that oversaw the colossal waste at Cover Oregon voted to throw in the towel, and taxpayers are left stuck with the bill.

"The board should explain further to the taxpayers of Oregon and the nation how exactly this massive failure happened."

Jahan Wilcox, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said: "It's remarkable that Cover Oregon was such a disaster that moving into the troubled HealthCare.gov is considered an improvement."

He also referenced U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley's support of the Affordable Care Act in 2010. The Oregon Democrat, who has since distanced himself from the beleaguered law, is seeking re-election this fall.

"Oregonians can give themselves a real upgrade by firing Sen. Jeff Merkley, whose deciding vote for Obamacare resulted in the creation of Cover Oregon," Wilcox said.

The board overseeing the state's Obamacare program, Cover Oregon, on Friday accepted an advisory committee's recommendation to ditch its troubled portal after spending months and millions of dollars on trying to get it to work. Oregon instead will use HealthCare.gov for private policies.

According to Cover Oregon officials, fixing the troubled portal would have cost $78 million and would have taken too long. Using HealthCare.gov, which has had its own share of glitches and problems since the Obamacare rollout, would cost just $4 million to $6 million.

"I don't know that anyone in the room is excited about going down this path," Liz Baxter, who chairs the Cover Oregon board, said in a report in The Oregonian. "But I think it's the only option."

In more than a dozen states that opted to create their own exchanges, Oregon's was seen as the most dysfunctional. It was plagued by technical problems so severe that almost all the 50,000 people who signed up for insurance through the exchange did so using paper applications or with help from a professional.

Right up to the end, Oregonians were not able to use the website to sign up for coverage in one sitting.

Oregon residents instead had to use an arduous paper-online process to sign up for insurance — despite the $134 million the state paid Oracle Corp. to build the online exchange. Oregon received a monthlong enrollment-deadline extension because of the technology problems.

The state enthusiastically embraced Obamacare, and the website had been a pioneer for state marketplaces.

And even though several other states have had major problems with their Obamacare exchanges, only Oregon has voted to scrap it entirely. Maryland recently decided to adopt the technology used on Connecticut's successful exchange.

In March, the Government Accountability Office in Washington said that it would investigate the Oregon exchange, including looking at whether the federal government can reclaim grant money given to Cover Oregon if taxpayer funds were mismanaged.

Officials at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said they were working with Oregon on the next steps in the effort.

Meanwhile, an independent investigation ordered by Gov. John Kitzhaber found state managers repeatedly disregarded reports about technical problems that prevented the Cover Oregon exchange from launching when the Obamacare individual mandate took effect in October.

It also found that Oracle did a poor job in building the exchange's technology. Five Oregon officials connected to website's development have resigned.

Kitzhaber said communications about the portal's troubles never reached him as the Oct. 1 launch neared. The governor said he agreed with the technology advisory committee's recommendation to scrap the website.

State officials said they would keep the Cover Oregon website, redesigning it to direct people to HealthCare.gov. Oregon also will use the federal call center, but it will retain some customer outreach, education efforts and initial carrier management.

Because HealthCare.gov enrolls people only in private health plans, Oregonians who are declared eligible for the Medicaid program for low-income Americans will be redirected to the Oregon Health Authority.

That agency can enroll them in the Oregon Health Plan, Oregon's version of Medicaid.

So far, about 242,000 Oregonians have enrolled in coverage through Cover Oregon. About 70,000 are in private plans, while 172,000 are enrolled in the Oregon Health Plan.


Related Stories:
Once a Leader, Oregon Insurance Exchange Struggles

Republicans Probe 3 States With Failing Obamacare Exchanges
End of article


Comments;
In spite of stories like this coming out every day, the ignorant libs keep right on insisting that Obamacare is a "great thing"!

It sure looks like it was a "great thing" for Larry Ellison's Oracle Corp., which scored $134 million to "build" what didn't work, and was then thrown into a dumpster! And libs still can't understand why other people refer to them as being, "low-information", "ignorant", and just plain STUPID!

I repeat......"You can always tell a liberal.......but you can't tell them "much"!

(At least with having any expectation of them actually understanding what you're talking about!)

OK, libs, you can start your usual rants now......(not that anyone will be paying any attention to you. )
Oregon Taxpayers 'Stuck' With Bill From Failed Oba... (show quote)


Good grief, get a life. Heard they are predicting tornadoes in your area, why not set your computer on the porch.

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Apr 27, 2014 11:07:13   #
mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
 
I am a Republican and I have seen people have their premiums go up more than normal when they were forced onto the plan. Forced because they lost their insurance because it didn't conform. I lost mine before switching to Medicare/Humana Advantage. But I still pay $104 @ month for Medicare.

I am now 68 and why should I have to pay for a pregnancy rider, I am single without kids.

Oh and addressing the GOP Leadership, most of them are RINO's in my eyes. I am of the Conservative mode and do not believe in much of the present intervention by the Feds. I want a strong Military [being combat vet], lower taxes, term limits for all Politicians & Judges. Turn over education to States, and Federal lands, EPA run by the states, and some others. I have my opinions and they probably do not match others, but it is time for people to start paying attention and draw their own conclusions. I also want a strong fiscal policy and foreign policy, not what is currently happening, again IMO.

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Apr 27, 2014 11:07:47   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
ted45 wrote:
Wow! You need professional counseling sir.

Now Ted45, I was just trying to think like a Republican and give good, tho fictitious, examples of advantages of doing away with ACA. Perhaps it is the Republicans that need the professional counseling.... hummm, whatchatank.

With the epidemic of diabetes (among many pre existing conditions) in the young, thanks to lots of hi fructose sugar and sugar in general.... along with tons of carbs... coupled with lack of activity due to the advent of the remote control and long hours of video games.... well with ACA they will be able to get insurance coverage.

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Apr 27, 2014 11:11:22   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
dpullum wrote:
Now Ted45, I was just trying to think like a Republican and give good, tho fictitious, examples of advantages of doing away with ACA. Perhaps it is the Republicans that need the professional counseling.... hummm, whatchatank.

With the epidemic of diabetes (among many pre existing conditions) in the young, thanks to lots of hi fructose sugar and sugar in general.... along with tons of carbs... coupled with lack of activity due to the advent of the remote control and long hours of video games.... well with ACA they will be able to get insurance coverage.
Now Ted45, I was just trying to think like a Repub... (show quote)


...you forgot another contributor to this mess, UHH 8-) 8-)

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Apr 27, 2014 11:14:07   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
[quote=mikedidi46] said in part: I am now 68 and why should I have to pay for a pregnancy rider, I am single without kids.
Have you forgotten how old Bing Crosby was with his second family. Not sure if medicare will pay for you getting that gun to shoot blanks. Also I get most of my $100 rebated with the Secondary coverage I have. Mine is with Optimum, works well. If you delay taking the add on, not only do you have to pay the $100 but you will be penalized for not taking it... chose win/win or lose/lose. I chose win/win.

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and Yes dljen, I get mildew of the rump from UHH computer fixation syndrome. And these political operatives like Gitzo are payed like Fox News is paid ... just to spread bunk.

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Apr 27, 2014 11:14:43   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
dpullum wrote:
Now Ted45, I was just trying to think like a Republican and give good, tho fictitious, examples of advantages of doing away with ACA. Perhaps it is the Republicans that need the professional counseling.... hummm, whatchatank.

With the epidemic of diabetes (among many pre existing conditions) in the young, thanks to lots of hi fructose sugar and sugar in general.... along with tons of carbs... coupled with lack of activity due to the advent of the remote control and long hours of video games.... well with ACA they will be able to get insurance coverage.
Now Ted45, I was just trying to think like a Repub... (show quote)


We need to fix the problem of health problems with people. If people took good care of themselves instead of abused their bodies we would not have as many problems.
But we can not tell them what to do with their bodies. :? :cry:

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Apr 27, 2014 11:16:17   #
mashooter
 
gitzo,
by now you should know that between the two of them ole sarg and djen they could not put 1/2 of a brain together. they are both stupid morons and ole sarg was nothing more than what we in the service called a shitbird

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Apr 27, 2014 11:20:05   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
mashooter wrote:
gitzo, by now you should know that between the two of them ole sarg and djen they could not put 1/2 of a brain together. they are both stupid morons and ole sarg was nothing more than what we in the service called a shitbird

There we go with elivated intellect in a discussion again, seems typical of the far right. You left me out so that may bring the lib brain count to 75% of a full brain.
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and yes I agree with you TrainNut:
" We need to fix the problem of health problems with people. If people took good care of themselves instead of abused their bodies we would not have as many problems. But we can not tell them what to do with their bodies." Yes, we can tell them, you and me also, but at times it does little good, we are human.... mmmmm, yum, time for coffee and cookies .....

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