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Apr 9, 2014 11:51:49 #
I KNOW, probably not the first time this was posed to very smart photog,s!!, the only thing i know {which is not much } is that with the d800e required more photoshop time and the d800e is supposed to have a crisper photo! any help will be appreciated.
Apr 9, 2014 12:09:53 #
Hi, the D800E has no anti aliasing filter, that means most of the time you will see slightly crisper photo on pixel peeping level. The photoshop time I do not know about, if there is a difference or not.
I have used a D800E and worked a lot with files from that camera and it surely delivers great pics. But if I was thinking about buying one of those and not in too much hurry, I would buy neither of them and wait for the D800s that is expected later this year. It will be an upgrade from the D800E at a lower price if rumors are right.
I have used a D800E and worked a lot with files from that camera and it surely delivers great pics. But if I was thinking about buying one of those and not in too much hurry, I would buy neither of them and wait for the D800s that is expected later this year. It will be an upgrade from the D800E at a lower price if rumors are right.
Apr 9, 2014 12:10:17 #
D800e does not imply more PP work.
The D800e has a filter in front of the sensor disabled, that is ALL the difference. Theses two cameras are otherwise identical.
The D800e has a filter in front of the sensor disabled, that is ALL the difference. Theses two cameras are otherwise identical.
Apr 9, 2014 12:13:08 #
When I bought my D800 (I was on the waiting list) the D800E wasnt released yet so at that point I didnt have a choice.
I believe in order to notice any difference you would have to use top of the line glass, shoot tripod mounted with either "MUP" or "Live view" (M is UP in live view) and pixel peep with images from both renditions of the camera side by side to notice a difference.
If buying today I might consider the D800E since I shoot raw exclusively and process each image indiviually. I heard a rumor that there may be a pending D800S with no high pass filter and better moire control. From what I hear the moire isnt as big a deal as was anticipated anyway.
That said, the regular D800 serves my purposes just fine.
I believe in order to notice any difference you would have to use top of the line glass, shoot tripod mounted with either "MUP" or "Live view" (M is UP in live view) and pixel peep with images from both renditions of the camera side by side to notice a difference.
If buying today I might consider the D800E since I shoot raw exclusively and process each image indiviually. I heard a rumor that there may be a pending D800S with no high pass filter and better moire control. From what I hear the moire isnt as big a deal as was anticipated anyway.
That said, the regular D800 serves my purposes just fine.
Apr 9, 2014 12:18:11 #
Apr 9, 2014 15:04:34 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
redhogbill wrote:
I KNOW, probably not the first time this was posed to very smart photog,s!!, the only thing i know {which is not much } is that with the d800e required more photoshop time and the d800e is supposed to have a crisper photo! any help will be appreciated.
In the grand scheme of photography decisions which matter, I'm not sure this one makes the list. But, like JimGuy, I didn't have to make the decision, so it's easy enough for me to say. :-)
The D800E costs about 10% more. Does it produce 10% sharper pictures? I doubt it. But when you have the whole system, the price difference is 2-4%. Does the D800E produce 2-4% sharper pictures? Possibly. Do 2-4% sharper pictures matter? No. Does 2-4% more in cost matter? No.
Is this my most unhelpful post on UHH? Yes. :-)
I'll try better next time...
Apr 9, 2014 16:53:24 #
thanks to all....I now know there is not as big a difference as I thought.....{except price}
Apr 9, 2014 17:00:55 #
DavidPine
Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
I thought long and hard about choosing between these 2 bodies. I am not sure I can recall why but I chose the D800 when I could have easily had either. I'm happy with my choice. Good luck.
redhogbill wrote:
I KNOW, probably not the first time this was posed to very smart photog,s!!, the only thing i know {which is not much } is that with the d800e required more photoshop time and the d800e is supposed to have a crisper photo! any help will be appreciated.
Apr 9, 2014 17:09:01 #
I chose the D800E hoping for that slight increase in sharpness. I really don't know if I got it or not. I do know that these are the sharpest digital images I ever shot. Fortunately my computer equipment is up to the task of handling the larger files. I couldn't be happier. Don't pay too much attention to the Ken Rockwells of the world who chant that nobody needs 36 mega-pixels. I don't need 36 mp files either but I sure like the ability to crop half the image away and still have files I would have got with an 18 mp camera and a 2x teleconverter. Either camera will suit you well, there really isn't much difference.
Apr 10, 2014 09:04:59 #
Mark7829
Loc: Calfornia
JimGuy wrote:
When I bought my D800 (I was on the waiting list) ... (show quote)
The D800 is a fabulous camera. You really would have to get out a microscope to see the difference between the D800E. The differences are just hype and the more we speak of it that difference seems to grow. It is not a concern - both are super cameras.
Apr 10, 2014 11:03:09 #
I do not see how a disabled filter that introduces a set blur onto all sensor can be hype but this is just me.
It is noticeable when you pixel peep and to be honest we rarely blowup a picture so that it makes a difference. The potential is there, same as using a wider color space, the potential is there, also seldom used and never on a screen as there are not enough pixels to display all the possible colors shade within a color space even with a color depth of 8 bit. Yet this potential translates into a better picture in the end because the average made to print/display is better, by far.
Hype? No. A concern? No. Over priced? Yes.
It is noticeable when you pixel peep and to be honest we rarely blowup a picture so that it makes a difference. The potential is there, same as using a wider color space, the potential is there, also seldom used and never on a screen as there are not enough pixels to display all the possible colors shade within a color space even with a color depth of 8 bit. Yet this potential translates into a better picture in the end because the average made to print/display is better, by far.
Hype? No. A concern? No. Over priced? Yes.
Apr 10, 2014 13:18:42 #
for some reason I have this fantasy to blow up pictures the size of a 59 Cadillac with clarity!!!!! I'm just a kid!!!
thanx again
thanx again
Apr 10, 2014 14:47:59 #
Most people can not see the difference in image quality between the two camera's. It takes a machine to tell the difference.
Apr 10, 2014 18:18:56 #
redhogbill wrote:
I KNOW, probably not the first time this was posed to very smart photog,s!!, the only thing i know {which is not much } is that with the d800e required more photoshop time and the d800e is supposed to have a crisper photo! any help will be appreciated.
The Nikon site has a very good comparison of the two with some specific criteria of the strengths and appropriate (nikon's judgement) applications for each body. Both cameras will support large prints if that's your goal but... the 800E sensor is not specifically engineered as an everyday, carry around body where the photographer has little control over the shooting environment... It'll do everyday stuff and do it very, very well and if that's the type of photography you'll be doing save yourself a few bucks and get the D-800 or wait until the D-800s comes onto the market.
Nikon is already discounting the D-800 so the D-800s is just over the horizon.
BTW... I bought an 800E for a very specific studio application, art photography. If I didn't have that need, I'd have bought a D-800.
Hope this helps a bit.
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