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Apr 1, 2014 06:47:01   #
handgunz Loc: Gilford, New Hampshire
 
DavidPhares wrote:
I stand all amazed at those who only see black and white, when the real world is 256 shades of grey. One issue you fail to grasp is that there are no simple answers to complex questions.

You truly are proof positive that you just can not cure stupid with reason.

Another question: who was the miserable teacher who failed to teach you to write? I had many children of illegal patents who were far more literate than you.

Oh yeah, one more question: who turns your camera on for you? Is it the same keeper who reads the instruction manual to you?

This is fun: a battle of wits with an unarmed man!

That should really piss you off!
I stand all amazed at those who only see black and... (show quote)



Maybe you should proof read more before belittling others. Can you tell us exactly how many children of illegal patents you taught? I didn't know patents could have children illegal or otherwise

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Apr 1, 2014 06:51:38   #
Bill Coleman
 
All of the people who allowed illegal immigration should be in jail for a long time. The illegals' home countries, where they have or should have citizenship, needs them too...as much as or more than the USA does. If all illegals could be sent home with guns, ammo and a copy of our constitution in their native language to fight for, their home countries would be good places to live and work. Instead, areas of our country are becoming more like their native countries and will someday be annexed to their home country.

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Apr 1, 2014 07:02:27   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
dirtpusher wrote:
you go right ahead and kiss their behind all day.
they are flooding the job market . working for any wage to be able to stay over here and send money hope instead of keeping money here . yo not very bright if you haven't figured it out by now... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


They are doing the jobs Americans don't want. And this video is not about the overall problem of illegal immigration - it is about the kids that are here not of their own choice.

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Apr 1, 2014 07:17:04   #
jecanes Loc: Taumarunui, New Zealand
 
dirtpusher wrote:
you go right ahead and kiss their behind all day.
they are flooding the job market . working for any wage to be able to stay over here and send money hope instead of keeping money here . yo not very bright if you haven't figured it out by now... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


You are a genuine A'hole.

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Apr 1, 2014 07:23:19   #
jdtx Loc: SA, Tx.
 
ILLEGAL Immigrants...get the difference straight in your head

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Apr 1, 2014 07:41:25   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Thanks for posting the link, it certainly puts a different perspective on the issue.

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Apr 1, 2014 07:42:52   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
busted_shutter wrote:
Yea...you're right. Our forefathers only slaughtered the bison, forced the Am. Indian into living on reservations, and enslaved the black man. Very prideful group.


Very true, but since then, we have redeemed ourselves. We have brought the bison back from the verge of extinction, given the Native Americans the choice of living on their own reservations or in any city or town of their choosing, and we have a black man in the oval office. That was then, and this is now

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Apr 1, 2014 07:53:22   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
tschmath wrote:
It's obvious from your use of the English language in your posts that English is a second language for you, because you come across as infinitely more ignorant than any of the kids in this video. As I said earlier, I pity your black heartless soul.


OK, here's the king's English: Let them go back to the old country and build up the infrastructure there. There is a threshold where even Harvard graduates are not finding jobs, and our tax dollars are going to developing countries to maintain the status quo. Perhaps if they committed to returning to their parent's country of origin and committed to increasing the standard of living there, I might, just might, buy this sob story the left has perpetuated for totally political purposes.

First the left denigrates the American dream by calling it alienating, class oriented, racist, sexist, and then they try to sell it to illegal immigrants.

You can't have it both ways.

Isn't that racist to refer to my soul in the negative as "black?" Perhaps soulless, might be more apt, but considering I'm an atheist pragmatic, economic realities are what I base my reasoning.

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Apr 1, 2014 07:54:42   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
tschmath wrote:
I challenge you to watch this video and not be moved by its message. And be sure to watch it to the end.

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/191580.html


Nobody , especially republicans, ever said immigrants are destroying ANYTHING. Duh. The kids in your movie are NOT the ones anybody is concerned with. The problems around immigration are the ones who are here illegally, have no skills other them muscle, who have no intention of becoming a citizen There are millions of themÂ… without them and ally he expenses and problems they cause,, there would be ways of accepting more.

This movie is all about the mess anybody who supports illegal immigration has caused.

Case in point. I have a friend who is Muslim from Sarajevo, who fought in that war. A side story is he told how his mother used to love to hear the bells ring on Sunday - The CHristian Bells- they got along just fine before the war- then it all became politicized. I could go on with his 'horror' stories of the war) . Anyways he was an IT guy at a place I freelanced. He married a doctor he met here, also from Sarajevo, also muslim- he had already become a citizen, she only had a green card. I have lost touch now when he took another job, but even though he had married her and she paid an enormous amount of US taxes, they would not let her in as a citizen.

We joked that all she needed to do was to go to Mexico and walk across the border. He thought this enormously ironic and laughed at the gallows humor. She is precisely the immigrant we need, someone who WANTS to be a citizen, as opposed to someone who just wants to work here with no loyalty whatsoever. These kids are too.

Where I I've we have huge amounts of Vietnamese and Bosnian immigrants, whole sections of the city are being taken over and turned back into once neighborhoods from the people who used to live there. They work hard, and care, their kids speak perfect English and translate for them. I know dozens!

The class of immigrant we don't want are the ones we don't really need , those who support them want slaves wiling to work for below living pay , no benefits, no protection, and find a way for them to participate in our elections because you know who they will vote for. Thats the immigrant nobody wants.

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Apr 1, 2014 08:00:06   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
I know right. Irish need not apply. They could take all of the jobs.


IMHO, the history of immigration in the US is like the game "King of The Hill" which my friends and I played as kids. In that game, the first kid at the top of the hill tried to keep everyone down. Once another kid made it to the top, he in turn pushed others away and so on. In like fashion, the those of English ancestry tried to keep out the Irish, who in turn, tried to keep out the Italians. Ditto for the Jews, Asians, Mexicans, Arabs, etc

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Apr 1, 2014 08:00:43   #
FutureLook Loc: Florida, USA
 
dirtpusher wrote:
you go right ahead and kiss their behind all day.
they are flooding the job market . working for any wage to be able to stay over here and send money hope instead of keeping money here . yo not very bright if you haven't figured it out by now... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


Hey dirtpusher. I was puzzled with the derogatory language that you used against immigrants and I fully understand why after reading your occupation as a retired "bulldozer seat cover". You have really learned to speak that lingo well. However, I hope you learn that your lingo does not sit well with many hear that are used to a much kinder and humane lingo. Have you forgotten that your ancestors were immigrants as well? Your profile does not show your real name so if I am wrong by assuming that your ancestors were not immigrants, please forgive me for my mistake. Now, if you are an American Indian, I think you have the right to express your anger against all of us immigrants, including you. I think that you should look at the video again, before you ridicule yourself one more time. If you didn't make it far in school for whatever reason, don't put down any immigrants including Irish, Brits, French, Italian, Jews, Latin Americans and many more that made this beautiful country a power house. Repeat after me... God bless America!!!

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Apr 1, 2014 08:04:50   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
tschmath wrote:
It may be, but the push to adopt the Dream Act, which would give these kids a fighting chance, is ongoing. These kids deserve to achieve whatever they can. We owe them the chance to succeed. No child should be punished for the sins of their parents.


You are correct that no child should be punished for the sins of their parents. I agree with you on this matter. If the article is correct and we are talking about two million kids than they should get a break. In a country of three hundred million, two million kids are not going to break the bank.

The issue is that both sides of the immigration argument lie and lie and lie. How is anyone supposed to determine the truth. How do you keep the kids and send the parents back? The parents broke the law and there is no way around that. Maybe the right thing to do is to jail every congressman and every law maker that turned a blind eye and allowed this situation to get where it is today.
That would free up some jobs.

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Apr 1, 2014 08:06:07   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
Beercat wrote:
When I was young life was black and white. We all knew what was right and what was wrong. Now days we have 256 shades of grey, as a country we have lost our moral compass ......

Let me make this more visual. Back 50 years ago there was a large area of white and a large area of black with just a small grey area. Now we have a huge grey area and hardly any white and black ......


The shades of grey are on their way to black and white.

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Apr 1, 2014 08:08:20   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
FutureLook wrote:
Hey dirtpusher. I was puzzled with the derogatory language that you used against immigrants and I fully understand why after reading your occupation as a retired "bulldozer seat cover". You have really learned to speak that lingo well. However, I hope you learn that your lingo does not sit well with many hear that are used to a much kinder and humane lingo. Have you forgotten that your ancestors were immigrants as well? Your profile does not show your real name so if I am wrong by assuming that your ancestors were not immigrants, please forgive me for my mistake. Now, if you are an American Indian, I think you have the right to express your anger against all of us immigrants, including you. I think that you should look at the video again, before you ridicule yourself one more time. If you didn't make it far in school for whatever reason, don't put down any immigrants including Irish, Brits, French, Italian, Jews, Latin Americans and many more that made this beautiful country a power house. Repeat after me... God bless America!!!
Hey dirtpusher. I was puzzled with the derogatory ... (show quote)


While I might not agree with all of his sentiments, there is no need to insult him that way. We would not have been able to build this country without generations of "bulldozer seat covers" After nearly 30 years of providing medical care to them, I talk like them too. Hasn't hurt my professional reputation. I am also 1/16 Cherokee Indian. I say send the whites back to Europe, the Blacks to Africa, and the Chinese to Hong Kong.

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Apr 1, 2014 08:18:42   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
DavidPhares wrote:
Sounds like proof positive of the old saying, "Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, then to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Fits ole dirtpusher to a T.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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