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Mar 30, 2014 19:39:28   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
I agree with Amehta. With all the small twigs in these photos, it's very difficult to use autofocus to find the bird in the middle of all that. Pick a definite subject without all the possible distractions and give it a go. If you're in a situation where there are a number of possible objects that auto focus might select, then go to manual focus so that you can be more selective in what you're focusing on.

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Mar 30, 2014 19:45:40   #
Cassy Loc: New England
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Cassy - I've posted DPP crops below with the shooting info. There's nothing obvious to me although the 3rd example with the tree limbs in front of the cardinal would be a challenge to most any camera. One review said the lens should be sharp wide open at 400mm. I might still step it down some.

You didn't mention a tripod or windows or filters. Windows or filters could be an issue.

I'm wondering if manual with ISO - auto, f/8 at say 1/500 or 1/800 shutter will generated same or better results? You might also try manual focus. I was trying for good sharp focus of birds indoors at the zoo over the past few weeks and practiced such a set-up.
Cassy - I've posted DPP crops below with the shoot... (show quote)


HI, I was shooting through our front window plus I have a protector filter on my lens. Although I did take the filter off, went out side and I did try manual focus as well. No tripod at any time though. Today wasn't the best light either. I am not good with Manual focus, so I depend on the AF to work.
There are times is seems to work pretty good, but not getting the Sharp pictures I except to get. I guess I have a lot of learning to do in a short time. I am hoping the Ospreys come back this year so I can spend my summer shooting them again. That is why I bought this lens :-). I will keep trying different things and let you know how I make out.

All, thank you so much for the help on this.
Cassy

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Mar 30, 2014 19:46:51   #
Cassy Loc: New England
 
amehta wrote:
I think when you're trying to figure out if there's an AF issue, it helps to simplify the shooting situation: aim at simple subjects for the AF to lock on, have bright enough light, and use a stationary subject. Then try it with lower light to see when it gets limited. Once the lens passes those tests, you can start adding complexity.


I will try this too. Thanks so much for the help.
cassy

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Mar 30, 2014 19:48:30   #
Cassy Loc: New England
 
gym wrote:
I agree with Amehta. With all the small twigs in these photos, it's very difficult to use autofocus to find the bird in the middle of all that. Pick a definite subject without all the possible distractions and give it a go. If you're in a situation where there are a number of possible objects that auto focus might select, then go to manual focus so that you can be more selective in what you're focusing on.


That is what My husband is telling me too. My problem is, I have a really hard time with Manual Focus, so I really depend on the AF.
I will try this though. Thanks for the help
Cassy

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Mar 30, 2014 20:13:13   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Cassy wrote:
That is what My husband is telling me too. My problem is, I have a really hard time with Manual Focus, so I really depend on the AF.
I will try this though. Thanks for the help
Cassy


If the birds are staying in the one spot long enough, maybe you could use tripod, live view, 10x zoom, autofocus, remote/cable shutter trigger.

Edit: But failing that, do whatever Swamp Gator suggests. Its his area and he is very good at it.

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Mar 30, 2014 20:28:41   #
Cassy Loc: New England
 
lighthouse wrote:
If the birds are staying in the one spot long enough, maybe you could use tripod, live view, 10x zoom, autofocus, remote/cable shutter trigger.

Edit: But failing that, do whatever Swamp Gator suggests. Its his area and he is very good at it.


Great, thanks so much!!

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Mar 30, 2014 21:42:30   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You might too look at a monopod. It will need to be a good one to hold the weight, but will make a difference in your ability to hold steady. The single subject shooting is to confirm the camera + lens accuracy. If in a controlled environment things are correct, then it becomes available light, shutter speed, aperture and techique in the field.

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Mar 30, 2014 22:07:20   #
Cassy Loc: New England
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You might too look at a monopod. It will need to be a good one to hold the weight, but will make a difference in your ability to hold steady. The single subject shooting is to confirm the camera + lens accuracy. If in a controlled environment things are correct, then it becomes available light, shutter speed, aperture and techique in the field.



Thanks, CHG_CANON, I really appreciate all your help today. Cassy

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Mar 30, 2014 22:32:48   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Cassy wrote:
HI, I was shooting through our front window plus I have a protector filter on my lens. Although I did take the filter off, went out side and I did try manual focus as well. No tripod at any time though. Today wasn't the best light either. I am not good with Manual focus, so I depend on the AF to work.
There are times is seems to work pretty good, but not getting the Sharp pictures I except to get. I guess I have a lot of learning to do in a short time. I am hoping the Ospreys come back this year so I can spend my summer shooting them again. That is why I bought this lens :-). I will keep trying different things and let you know how I make out.

All, thank you so much for the help on this.
Cassy
HI, I was shooting through our front window plus I... (show quote)


Shooting through a window will distort the quality as well as any extra piece of glass that is between the front lens glass and your subject.

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Mar 31, 2014 06:43:25   #
tmrawshooter Loc: Tampa, FL
 
You might also try checking your AF distance setting switch (on the lens). It has 2 positions: 1.8m - Infinity and 6.5m - Infinity. You may be having an issue with distance to subject or (hopefully not) a problem with the lens. Chances are its something already mentioned by others above. Keep shooting, keep posting and good luck!

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Mar 31, 2014 06:45:20   #
Xantoz Loc: Delaware
 
Make sure you have the focusing distance button on the left upper side of the lens set on the proper range. This drove me crazy also. I still have to check that it's set correctly. It gives you the ability to focus something in close range as opposed to the max range of the lens. It will not autofocus properly if you are not focusing in the right range for this setting. I have had this lens for many years I love it.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:04:09   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
I will suggest two things - move closer ( larger subject size) and the use of a well articulated monopod - not so much for the stabilisation ( you already have that - to some degree) as for the ergonomics and ability to concentrate on the subject. As mentioned, whatever filter you are using - I would leave it off. I would also get a round metal lenshood and leave it on the lens 24/7 and cap it for protection.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:41:18   #
LolaPL Loc: Richardson, Texas
 
How is the small slider near the AF/MF slider set? 1.8 is for closer subjects and 6.5 makes farther subjects sharper.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:41:37   #
clicktime Loc: Yucca Valley Ca.
 
One more thing with a new lens. It might not be in sink with the camera. Most new camera's have a adjustment for focus distance settings. You can adjust the focus point forward or backwards in camera if it consistently is off. Take a pic at an angle of a chain link fence with the focus point locked on a set point [ a ribbon tied on the fence ] If the focus is forward or backward then you need to do a focus adjustment in camera. I had this issue with my 400mm and it made all the difference once I had it correct.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:53:49   #
avman Loc: Normal IL
 
LolaPL wrote:
How is the small slider near the AF/MF slider set? 1.8 is for closer subjects and 6.5 makes farther subjects sharper.


Don't forget the stabilizer mode switch also....if not panning (don't think you are) this switch needs to be set on 1...even if you are panning consider 1....I have been fighting this for two years shooting aircraft and finally came to realize this is an important setting. Additionally, shooting through a window...get as close to the glass as you can, take the lens hood off and even rest the front of the lens on the glass...hope this helps!....

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