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Mar 30, 2014 08:01:20   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
lukan wrote:
OMG! You've nailed it and I commend and applaud your rationale! Brilliant, actually. Here's the deal... I do not do this for a living (obviously), and I have spent 10 times these figures on stuff that doesn't give me nearly as much pleasure as photography (cars, stereos, stupid golf clubs, etc.). After putting pencil to paper, I can make the complete system switch for under $5000. That's a complete system switch! I can then add other bodies, etc., over time, and not worry about mounts changing, or the EVF evolving, etc. And, I'll have one totally bad-ass setup in my hand, all the while. Thank you! :idea: :-D
OMG! You've nailed it and I commend and applaud y... (show quote)

It's time I face the Income/ Hobby Ratio numbers and pony-up!

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Mar 30, 2014 08:01:25   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
lukan wrote:
I could get the 5DMk3 for a lot less money than the 1DX but is that even the point? If you could get the D4S at a significant (at least 20%) cost savings, wouldn't you at least consider it whether you would make full utility of its capabilities or not? I don't know, I have an opportunity but it might just be GAS. :oops:

Yes, I would consider it, but then it would still have to go through the same analysis at the new, still pretty high price. Of course, all these prices are relative, and somehow I didn't think very long about getting the D800 (probably because I had already justified the same amount three years earlier for the D700, and felt it was valid). But the D3/D3s/D4/D4s have never seriously made it on the radar. That's $5-7k, plus lens which I think can be (has been?) better spent on other aspects of the hobby.

Yes, it's an opportunity. But if you weren't seriously considering the 1DX before, don't do it now just because it's a little cheaper, maybe 10% off the cost of the system.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:07:57   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
amehta wrote:
Yes, I would consider it, but then it would still have to go through the same analysis at the new, still pretty high price. Of course, all these prices are relative, and somehow I didn't think very long about getting the D800 (probably because I had already justified the same amount three years earlier for the D700, and felt it was valid). But the D3/D3s/D4/D4s have never seriously made it on the radar. That's $5-7k, plus lens which I think can be (has been?) better spent on other aspects of the hobby.

Yes, it's an opportunity. But if you weren't seriously considering the 1DX before, don't do it now just because it's a little cheaper, maybe 10% off the cost of the system.
Yes, I would consider it, but then it would still ... (show quote)


You're killing me. I thought you were helping me INTO the 1DX, not being sensible and responsible and rational and steering me away from it. I thought you were supporting the rationale of acquiring this thing, not letting it slip to the wayside.
Honestly, I've been eyeing it for about a year, but never considered it because it was so large. With the battery grip on my A99, it is even larger, so I resolved that obstacle in an awful hurry!

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Mar 30, 2014 08:12:02   #
avman Loc: Normal IL
 
lukan wrote:
You're killing me. I thought you were helping me INTO the 1DX, not being sensible and responsible and rational and steering me away from it. I thought you were supporting the rationale of acquiring this thing, not letting it slip to the wayside.
Honestly, I've been eyeing it for about a year, but never considered it because it was so large. With the battery grip on my A99, it is even larger, so I resolved that obstacle in an awful hurry!


You obviously want the 1dx and associated lenses...why are you agonizing over this decesion? If money isn't an issue...why don't you already have it?

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Mar 30, 2014 08:12:36   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
lukan wrote:
You're killing me. I thought you were helping me INTO the 1DX, not being sensible and responsible and rational and steering me away from it. I thought you were supporting the rationale of acquiring this thing, not letting it slip to the wayside.
Honestly, I've been eyeing it for about a year, but never considered it because it was so large. With the battery grip on my A99, it is even larger, so I resolved that obstacle in a n awful hurry!

There are two different questions:
1. Income/Hobby ratio
2. spending within the hobby
So I'm rationalizing spending more money on photography, but being rational about how to spend it. In the end, what will give you more pleasure and get you more great pictures, the 1DX or opportunities to shoot? I could have gotten the D4/D4S if I hadn't gone to Australia and New Zealand last year, but then I'd have a second great camera but not the pictures, experiences, and memories from that trip. The stuff we buy is only useful if it enhances our experiences.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:14:30   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
avman wrote:
You obviously want the 1dx and associated lenses...why are you agonizing over this decesion? If money isn't an issue...why don't you already have it?

You should have seen how much he agonized over the Sony A77. :-)
It started a 19 page topic! (http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-187570-1.html )

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Mar 30, 2014 08:18:51   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
lukan wrote:
OMG! You've nailed it and I commend and applaud your rationale! Brilliant, actually. Here's the deal... I do not do this for a living (obviously), and I have spent 10 times these figures on stuff that doesn't give me nearly as much pleasure as photography (cars, stereos, stupid golf clubs, etc.). After putting pencil to paper, I can make the complete system switch for under $5000. That's a complete system switch! I can then add other bodies, etc., over time, and not worry about mounts changing, or the EVF evolving, etc. And, I'll have one totally bad-ass setup in my hand, all the while. Thank you! :idea: :-D
OMG! You've nailed it and I commend and applaud y... (show quote)


A complete system switch to a 1Dx for under 5K that you apparently have no trouble affording and you have to ask?? Instead of responding to these posts I would be busy writing the check if i were in your place! Oh, one thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the weather sealing of the 1Dx is far superior to just about anything else on the market.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:21:24   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
amehta wrote:
There are two different questions:
1. Income/Hobby ratio
2. spending within the hobby
So I'm rationalizing spending more money on photography, but being rational about how to spend it. In the end, what will give you more pleasure and get you more great pictures, the 1DX or opportunities to shoot? I could have gotten the D4/D4S if I hadn't gone to Australia and New Zealand last year, but then I'd have a second great camera but not the pictures, experiences, and memories from that trip. The stuff we buy is only useful if it enhances our experiences.
There are two different questions: br 1. Income/... (show quote)


Thank you, Dr. Mehta. You're absolutely correct. My greatest obstacle is taking the time off from work. Ironically, I can take as much time as I want, but take very little actual "vacation".
I'll think this through some more... Let you know.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:23:36   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
lukan wrote:
Thank you, Dr. Mehta. You're absolutely correct. My greatest obstacle is taking the time off from work. Ironically, I can take as much time as I want, but take very little actual "vacation".
I'll think this through some more... Let you know.

Yes, time is much more important than we consider. And "Dr. Mehta" is my dad. Or mom. I'm just Anand. :-D

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Mar 30, 2014 08:28:07   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
amehta wrote:
You should have seen how much he agonized over the Sony A77. :-)
It started a 19 page topic! (http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-187570-1.html )


Now be fair, Anand. The issue wasn't whether to buy an A77. It was how to maximize the reach of certain lenses while obeying weight constraints for a safari (that hasn't materialized). All of it was quite involving with some of the greatest photography minds on the UHH weighing in, and I loved that thread. Your input was invaluable. By the way, the A77 is excellent, so CHOLLY can be happy now that I gave it and him a shout-out. :D

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Mar 30, 2014 08:33:05   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
avman wrote:
You obviously want the 1dx and associated lenses...why are you agonizing over this decesion? If money isn't an issue...why don't you already have it?


Actually the opportunity came up yesterday afternoon, quite by accident. The numbers are being finalized, and I should know by Tuesday. Actually, it might cost even less than my initial calculation.
I wouldn't just go out and buy the 1DX; I don't shoot anything professionally. I do however have great respect for the camera, and the "deal" is enticing as heck. That's really it in a nutshell.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:34:32   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
amehta wrote:
Yes, time is much more important than we consider. And "Dr. Mehta" is my dad. Or mom. I'm just Anand. :-D


That's funny, my dad was and my mom is Drs. Lukas too...

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Mar 30, 2014 08:35:22   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
lukan wrote:
Now be fair, Anand. The issue wasn't whether to buy an A77. It was how to maximize the reach of certain lenses while obeying weight constraints for a safari (that hasn't materialized). All of it was quite involving with some of the greatest photography minds on the UHH weighing in, and I loved that thread. Your input was invaluable. By the way, the A77 is excellent, so CHOLLY can be happy now that I gave it and him a shout-out. :D

Yes, it was a great thread. But it was also an excellent example of the level of agonizing you are capable of, and for what level of detail. :-D

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Mar 30, 2014 08:36:49   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
LFingar wrote:
A complete system switch to a 1Dx for under 5K that you apparently have no trouble affording and you have to ask?? Instead of responding to these posts I would be busy writing the check if i were in your place! Oh, one thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the weather sealing of the 1Dx is far superior to just about anything else on the market.

In his defense, being able to afford something and actually writing the check for it are two different things. And I think that's a good thing. :-)

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Mar 30, 2014 08:38:12   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
LFingar wrote:
A complete system switch to a 1Dx for under 5K that you apparently have no trouble affording and you have to ask?? Instead of responding to these posts I would be busy writing the check if i were in your place! Oh, one thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the weather sealing of the 1Dx is far superior to just about anything else on the market.


LF, I love these posts! Also, SharpShooter is haunting my brain. I'm afraid he'll gloat that I came over (returned) to the Canon camp, and do the victory dance.
Fortunately for the gear, my mom taught me to come in out of the rain when I was a kid, and now I love the weather-sealed stuff more and more. The weather sealing isn't the major factor why I'd be attracted to the 1DX. It's combo of lowlight IQ, great autofocus, high processing speed, and great colors makes it attractive. The 5Dmk3 has a lot of that too, but my pal doesn't have one of those for sale!

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