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Mar 21, 2014 22:14:14   #
bigwolf40 Loc: Effort, Pa.
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
There is tons of value in joining a photography forum, but if you think the only value of joining a forum is to gain clients then you are missing the reason forums are created in the first place. I can count on one hand how many clients have have gotten off a photography forum, but there is no way I can tell you how many friends I have made or even begin to measure the things I have learned.

Forums are for making friends, discussing photography, learning new skills, taking workshops, bouncing ideas of other photographers, getting feedback on your skills both with a camera and with editing. You need to be comfortable with the people you are sharing your soul with (that is what photography is for me, it's a part of me).

I am a boudoir and pin-up photographer by profession, I'm actually really good at it, part of the reason I am successful as a photographer is because I do push myself to learn and try new things. Without feedback from trusted resources I would be stale and my skill level would have stalled. That is why you (general you) need to find a place and people you trust to push you to the next level.

As a boudoir photographer I don't need comments about how the model looks or people asking for her phone number, what I need is someone to tell me her hand is placed strangely, that I have a harsh shadow on her rib cage, next time to have model arch her back a little less because it looks too hoochie. I need someone to suggest a different idea for placement of lights, maybe to try clam lighting or adding a diagonal splash on the background with a slide projector and placing my key light high and camera right (gives a great 1940 Hollywood feel to the overall finished product).

I need ideas on different ways to process skin, I've recently started to use a split frequency technique that is giving me a really nice finish (thanks to fellow photographers for the tutorials on that!).

I've never see forums as a place to gain clients, and I never will and fellow photographers shouldn't see them that way either.
There is tons of value in joining a photography fo... (show quote)


This all makes sense and is the way it should be whether male or female in all types of photography....Rich

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Mar 21, 2014 22:29:58   #
Kaperture Loc: Asheboro, NC, USA
 
Haha, this made me giggle. It's like how composers seem to all have slick-back grey hair, hipster glasses and a lanky figure, similar age bracket. Thank you for the laugh :mrgreen:

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Mar 21, 2014 22:40:45   #
bygeorge Loc: Fl.<N.J.<Fl.
 
chrisewers wrote:
I see the members photos when posting. In general, the seem predominantly male, 40 ish or older and support facial hair. Also seems to be accompanied with either a quizzical look or a big grin. Just saying ! is this a true reflection of the enthusiast photographer population at large?
No agenda on this - just curious.


Guilty. :thumbup:

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Mar 21, 2014 22:53:18   #
Michael66 Loc: Queens, New York
 
msmith44 wrote:
So let me see if I understand this...

Photographic forums are open to everyone except those restricted to females. And, you find this an intellectually defensible position given the context of the fight for equal rights.

Am I getting this right? Jeez, you sound like you teach in higher education.


There are many forums out there that are closed to the public. Some require a fee and others are invite only and some are both. I know as I belong to a few.

This thread is really starting to sound belligerent.

That said, I am beginning to wonder if some folks are thinking that these closed forums are on UHH due to a misunderstanding over the word 'forum'.

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Mar 21, 2014 22:57:45   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
shaking my head... actually if you would have read my posts further down you would have seen that there ARE men on the forums, they are NOT ladies only they are GEARED toward female photographers. The men on the forums are well respected photographers who have been asked to join the forums by the Admins of the pages.

Membership is limited to men because as female photographers we have joined forums where men have been rude, crude and downright inappropriate (both toward the photographer and clients). It's a place were as females we discuss everything from photography to family life and health. Where we talk about issues of running a business and getting a hot meal on the table for the family. How difficult it is to find a babysitter to watch the kids because you had a last minute booking or when is the appropriate time to take a break from a wedding to change your tampon. If a man wants to join in those conversations, then more power to them!
shaking my head... actually if you would have read... (show quote)


Other than that the tampon and the facial hair (in not all cases:D) I see no big differences affecting the many common interests among the two groups. Just "gearing towards" and "restricting" have different meanings, but I have no problems with either one.

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Mar 21, 2014 23:01:03   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
Sorry, duplicate

Other than that the tampon and the facial hair (in not all cases:D) I see no big differences affecting the many common interests among the two groups. Just "gearing towards" and "restricting" have different meanings, but I have no problems with either one.

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Mar 21, 2014 23:08:08   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Michael66 wrote:
There are many forums out there that are closed to the public. Some require a fee and others are invite only and some are both. I know as I belong to a few.

This thread is really starting to sound belligerent.

That said, I am beginning to wonder if some folks are thinking that these closed forums are on UHH due to a misunderstanding over the word 'forum'.


You might be right. There are No secret forums on UHH (that I know of, lol).

If they do realize these are outside of the UHH realm, I wonder why they are so threatened by photography forums that are created and geared toward female photographers. Are they also threatened by the WBENC, the NAPW and the ABWA? (all Woman's Business Associations)

What about what about the National Women's Law Association?

They all have message boards for their members... females.&#8206;

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Mar 21, 2014 23:15:50   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
I am a well respected photographer and wish for an invite to a forum geared to female photographers. I believe I can contribute in a meaningful and credible way. Any advice on how to go about this would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou sincerely.

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Mar 21, 2014 23:26:48   #
Michael66 Loc: Queens, New York
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
You might be right. There are No secret forums on UHH (that I know of, lol).


Right! ::wink::

Say, what are you bringing to the next double secret potluck dinner? My wife wants me to make the cranberry oatmeal cookies. They disappeared fast the last time.

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Mar 21, 2014 23:30:19   #
acceptance16
 
I'm a very old, single, white woman with facial hair, commonly known as a beard. Sorry, that shoots your theory.

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Mar 21, 2014 23:30:33   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
cygone wrote:
I am a well respected photographer and wish for an invite to a forum geared to female photographers. I believe I can contribute in a meaningful and credible way. Any advice on how to go about this would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou sincerely.


since I am NOT an Admin on either page it is NOT my place to extend invitations to the forums to male photographers. The Admins make that call from photographers they respect and have had previous interactions with on other forums.

and once again, why so interested in joining a female photographers forum? Do you really want to pay the monthly membership fee to watch woman talk about photography and their families? :shock:

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Mar 21, 2014 23:32:15   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Michael66 wrote:
Right! ::wink::

Say, what are you bringing to the next double secret potluck dinner? My wife wants me to make the cranberry oatmeal cookies. They disappeared fast the last time.


My spinach dip bread bowl, you seemed to enjoy it last time. :)

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Mar 21, 2014 23:34:53   #
acceptance16
 
Are you serious?

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Mar 21, 2014 23:38:23   #
acceptance16
 
chrisewers wrote:
I see the members photos when posting. In general, the seem predominantly male, 40 ish or older and support facial hair. Also seems to be accompanied with either a quizzical look or a big grin. Just saying ! is this a true reflection of the enthusiast photographer population at large?
No agenda on this - just curious.


I'm an old woman with facial hair...commonly known as a beard. I do smile when I get a picture that excites me.

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Mar 21, 2014 23:38:29   #
lxu532 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
I'm not a middle-aged male, but I do smile a lot & I love this group. Male or female, the members are so knowledgeable.

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