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Mar 13, 2014 19:58:16   #
eospaddy Loc: Liverpool UK
 
IsoBob wrote:
I was just sitting here reading some posts on sensor cleaning. Something dawned on me that I never thought about before. Subject is, in camera vibration cleaning. We certainly want our sensors squeaky clean but my question is "What happens to this dust that is removed by this type of cleaning?" Where does it go? From sensor filter to where? Isn't it all in the same small area? Just wondering. Shaken off and left to climb back on? Anyone else ever thought about this or just me? Please help so I can sleep tonight!
Thanks All
Bob


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I was just sitting here reading some posts on sens... (show quote)


unless you have a problem i would stay away from the sensor area

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Mar 13, 2014 20:38:20   #
roykidd44
 
tackie strip at bottom is supposed to grab dust hope it works.

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Mar 13, 2014 21:08:05   #
IsoBob Loc: Hamilton, NJ
 
eospaddy wrote:
unless you have a problem i would stay away from the sensor area


I don't have a problem-just curious!
Bob

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Mar 13, 2014 21:35:30   #
banjonut Loc: Southern Michigan
 
SharpShooter wrote:
But even mirrorless cameras have a shutter, don't they?
Things can ONLY get in the sensor area, while the shot is being exposed, and sometimes for only 1/8000th sec. ;-)
SS


NEWS ALERT! Mirrorless cameras do not have a mirror over the sensor. If you remove the lens, you are looking directly at the sensor with no mirror to protect it.

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Mar 13, 2014 21:37:00   #
banjonut Loc: Southern Michigan
 
jlrivera wrote:
Yes, it's different dust. If you take JPEG the dust is more compressed than the dust in RAW.


But what amount of JPEG dust compression are you using?

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Mar 13, 2014 21:43:01   #
Kingmapix Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
I think the final answer to dust control is Obama Care.
The pitch I hear is the Obama Care is the answer to all our problems, including dusty sensors. Better sign up soon.

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Mar 13, 2014 22:11:59   #
banjonut Loc: Southern Michigan
 
Kingmapix wrote:
I think the final answer to dust control is Obama Care.
The pitch I hear is the Obama Care is the answer to all our problems, including dusty sensors. Better sign up soon.


Or rather it could be the end of our country as we know it.

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Mar 13, 2014 23:47:59   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
IsoBob wrote:
SS: when the dust is fine and won't budge with my rocket blower I have used a sensor brush and have been very successful. No need for sending it in for cleaning when there is just a little stubborn dust. By the way I had a D600 and had no problems what so ever. Was a terrific camera!
Bob


Same with me. My d600 hasn't had a problem. It's been a great camera.

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Mar 14, 2014 00:17:55   #
jlrivera Loc: Round Lake, Illinois
 
banjonut wrote:
But what amount of JPEG dust compression are you using?

A 100% dust compression...
:mrgreen:

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Mar 14, 2014 12:46:27   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Can't say anything about other manufacturers, but all Canon cameras with the self-cleaning sensor system have an adhesive strip alongside the sensor, that traps loose specks of dust when they are shaken off the sensor. Of course, at some point that adhesive strip itself will be saturated with dust or lose it's tackiness and need replacement.

My pair of 7Ds have this cleaning system, are about 4.5 years old and have taken about 100,000 images each, often under extremely dusty conditions...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3816/8981749757_62b13d9a13_b.jpg

I've found the automatic sensor cleaning system on these cameras to be very effective. One of my 7Ds has never been cleaned. The other one has been "wet cleaned" once. My 5DII also has the sensor cleaning system and has never been cleaned, but it sees less use and isn't often used under such dusty conditions.

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Mar 14, 2014 12:48:59   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
if you take your camera to a photo techincian, he has cleaning techniques which remove any spots or dust on your sensor. and the dust does definately not go back anywhere in your camera. so much for the shaky sensor app.

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Mar 14, 2014 13:33:49   #
CharlesA Loc: New Jersey
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Can't say anything about other manufacturers, but all Canon cameras with the self-cleaning sensor system have an adhesive strip alongside the sensor, that traps loose specks of dust when they are shaken off the sensor. Of course, at some point that adhesive strip itself will be saturated with dust or lose it's tackiness and need replacement.

My pair of 7Ds have this cleaning system, are about 4.5 years old and have taken about 100,000 images each, often under extremely dusty conditions...
I've found the automatic sensor cleaning system on these cameras to be very effective. One of my 7Ds has never been cleaned. The other one has been "wet cleaned" once. My 5DII also has the sensor cleaning system and has never been cleaned, but it sees less use and isn't often used under such dusty conditions.
Can't say anything about other manufacturers, but ... (show quote)


Alan,

Nice shot!
I have a feeling that Canon's dust shakers may be more effective than Nikon's from my own experience. When I take a before and after shot it may shake off a couple of particles, some of them are moved around and still others don't budge at all. When I get a buildup I wet clean my sensor.
Another factor may be stopping the lens down. I shoot a lot of landscapes at f/8 and beyond and any dust on the sensor will show up in the skies and clouds. I presume a lot of your work is action-oriented where you are shooting wide open. A test shot at f/2.8 will show nothing but one at f/22 on the same sensor will show everything.
But again, your Canons may be more effective at shaking dust off than my Nikons.

Cheers,
Charles

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Mar 16, 2014 11:43:07   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
we had a chuckle, Erv and i, over the weekend regarding the "shaky" feature. after 45 years as a photo technician, he laughed and said "it's just another gimmick" and don't bother with it.

if you are having problems with dust on the sensor, it needs to be wet cleaned, preferably by a technician.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:43:59   #
IsoBob Loc: Hamilton, NJ
 
wj cody wrote:
we had a chuckle, Erv and i, over the weekend regarding the "shaky" feature. after 45 years as a photo technician, he laughed and said "it's just another gimmick" and don't bother with it.

if you are having problems with dust on the sensor, it needs to be wet cleaned, preferably by a technician.


WJ-Sorry to disagree but it doesn't necessarily have to be wet cleaned or by a technician. Use of a blower first, a sensor brush as the next step, then wet clean. This is not at all difficult to do. Many tutorials on the process are available.
Bob

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Mar 16, 2014 13:29:02   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
IsoBob wrote:
WJ-Sorry to disagree but it doesn't necessarily have to be wet cleaned or by a technician. Use of a blower first, a sensor brush as the next step, then wet clean. This is not at all difficult to do. Many tutorials on the process are available.
Bob


i agree with you Bob. there are lots of tutorials on the web regarding this. but the only thing that gets the dust completely out of the body and mirror box is a wet clean. otherwise, you are just moving the dust from one place to the other.

another way to mitigate this, however, is to hold the digital body downwards when changing lenses.

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