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Jan 28, 2012 08:55:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
It's always safest to uninstall programs that have keys when you're getting a new computer. I have forgotten to do that and had a hard time reinstalling various programs.

Of course, if the drive dies, then uninstalling is not possible.

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Jan 28, 2012 09:38:02   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:

if the drive dies, then uninstalling is not possible.


I have 4 HDs, W-XP and W-7 AND a backup of each!!! I use a neat hardware addon by ORICO. The unit fits in a 5.5 opening if you use a 3.5 floppy adapter or in a 3.5 " drive opening. It has 4 bottons to activate the power to the SATA drives. New programs are installed and then the backup is activated once the new program proves OK. By having backups you are not in disaster by a HD failure or a Virus attack.... simply clean to factory pure and use it as a backup.

I can not find the gadget on ORICO site, but it is on EBay for about $25... Ouch,,, only found today the 6 bay for $60 ... thing change! 4 botton works great,,, Surly the 6 will too.

My second advice... Do as I say not do as I do... OK, will back up that W-7 today.. yep Im'a sinner too!!! Don't cast any stones my hard drives are made of glass!

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Jan 28, 2012 09:49:09   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
dpullum wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:

if the drive dies, then uninstalling is not possible.


I have 4 HDs, W-XP and W-7 AND a backup of each!!! I use a neat hardware addon by ORICO. The unit fits in a 5.5 opening if you use a 3.5 floppy adapter or in a 3.5 " drive opening. It has 4 bottons to activate the power to the SATA drives. New programs are installed and then the backup is activated once the new program proves OK. By having backups you are not in disaster by a HD failure or a Virus attack.... simply clean to factory pure and use it as a backup.

I can not find the gadget on ORICO site, but it is on EBay for about $25... Ouch,,, only found today the 6 bay for $60 ... thing change! 4 botton works great,,, Surly the 6 will too.

My second advice... Do as I say not do as I do... OK, will back up that W-7 today.. yep Im'a sinner too!!! Don't cast any stones my hard drives are made of glass!
quote=jerryc41 br if the drive dies, then uninst... (show quote)


I use ChronoSync to sync and/or backup files. I have backups scheduled at 2:00 AM daily to different drives.

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Jan 28, 2012 10:01:49   #
One Jughead Loc: Greene County, OH
 
Old Timer wrote:
I am sorry for putting the wrong program on the question, I meant to say portraitprofessional. I will blame it on old-himzer desease.


I don't know how old you have to be to get the old-himzer disease, but I do know that you can get "Sometimers" at almost any age. I know because I have it.

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Jan 28, 2012 10:31:32   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Old Timer wrote:
Does any one know how many computers you can install the program on. I have tried to find out on there site, and do not get a answer on therer phone or email. I know photo shop is two.




Generally, most software companies license their software for two computers, the thinking being laptop/desktop combination.

The interesting thing is the license for "use" or license to "install" concept. This would limit the number of computers on which the software can either be used or installed. Most of the licenses I've run across are in the use category.

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Jan 28, 2012 11:09:11   #
mtbearded1 Loc: U.S.A. : Montana : Missoula
 
We recently bought CS5 and loaded it onto a desktop and a laptop at the office. Brought it home to load onto the desktop at home as well, which worked fine for about three sessions. Then I got an error message saying that I was only allowed two activations, and if I wanted to continue using the software (at home), I would have to deactivate one of the original two computers. Called the office, had one deactivated and immediately got a message at home saying that the home desktop was now activated. Aside from the technological wonders involved, if anyone still thinks there's any privacy in our world today, you're sadly mistaken.

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Jan 28, 2012 11:46:10   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Mtbearded1, I have a laptop, and a desktop that has two op systems XP & 7,,,, I am but one user so I should have it on all three without protest from Adobe. That may be a big argument for PSP besides the $ issue.

But Curses be upon you because now it raises the issue of 4th Amendment Rights... you know the old document that Baby Bush destroyed along with the economy. I will be reading on this subject for hours!!.. and what use as you say privacy is an antiquated meaningless word... What right does Adobe have to spy on your computer? Next they will be peeking at my bod setting nude to keep cool in the Florida heat while saving energy as we all should! Oh, well, let them enjoy a few laughs.
http://www.cybertelecom.org/security/bigbrother.htm

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Jan 28, 2012 12:14:56   #
Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Old Timer wrote:
Does any one know how many computers you can install the program on. I have tried to find out on there site, and do not get a answer on therer phone or email. I know photo shop is two.


OT,

The basic information for the licensed use is normally found in the EULA(End User License Agreement) provided before the download/installation has been completed.

Most common EULAs allow for installation on two computer devices with the restriction that you cannot use the application on the two devices at the same time. This allows installation on both a desktop and a laptop device, but you cannot have both in operation at the same time.

Michael G

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Jan 28, 2012 12:25:55   #
Nevada Chuck
 
I could not agree more.

Imagine buying a light bulb and reading on the packaging that it could only be used in a kitchen or bathroom, and if you want the bulb for use in the living room you must take it from the bathroom.

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Jan 28, 2012 12:34:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Nevada Chuck wrote:
I could not agree more.

Imagine buying a light bulb and reading on the packaging that it could only be used in a kitchen or bathroom, and if you want the bulb for use in the living room you must take it from the bathroom.


I recently updated a program - I forget what - and I had to agree to the EULA. It was 27 pages long. Who knows what was hidden in those pages? But I agreed with it.

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Jan 28, 2012 12:48:48   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Alas analogies have a way of proving a point that does not realate to the point being proven (discussed) and that proves my point that such discussion within us is pointless and should be taken up with customer service of the particular company. If they are not reasonable, then there are other very good photoeditors for much less money..

The light bulb if a Republican light bulb burned out on the second debate when Herman left with his humor! The light bulb is a physical device, whereas the program is a code and can be installed on thousands of devices from the same disk. With the light bulb one does not have to call GE and ask may I now install it in another room.

IMO as long as multi people are not using the device then it is moral and ethical.... by the rules of two devices, we could install ,,,say MS Word,,, on a server and use it on many work stations just opening a new doc on each one. (to the computer purest..Yes, I realize a work around would be needed.)

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Jan 29, 2012 00:57:18   #
EmmonM
 
sorry guy, NOBODY SELLS soft ware, They sell you a lisence. With conditions about where you can use there stuff, one desk top and one lap top, as long as both machines are not on and useing the same programs at the same time. You don't own the sofware. Buit WTH...

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Jan 29, 2012 07:47:09   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
EmmonM wrote:
sorry guy, NOBODY SELLS soft ware, ...

Philosophy, legality, and reality and practical mater of the law are shades of gray differences...
Example, I have a photo edit program that is perhaps 20 years old. The company is defunct, yet in my hot little hand is a disk that I have loaded on my computer for years ... wonderful simplistic program to use compared to the swiss army knife called photoshop or PSP, both of which I purchased. The old program has No S# no registration possible tho the program asks saying thy will notify you of updates. Also I have several freeware that are just that, yes you agree not to alter; yet there are some open source that welcome alterations.

So Emmon, in a strict sense you are right; in a practical sense they do sell you software. If I sell a copyright photo to you, am I just allowing you to use it? No, you can draw a mustache on it, shred it, burn it.... you own it. Can you reproduce it and sell copies... no, not legally. Can you copy it and put it on each wall of the house and have it put on your coffee cup ,,, no not in the strict legal sense, but as a practical mater certainly.

IMO: While I know I can't, I feel that If I have a big house, three floors, and have stand alones on all 3 and in the basement, and a laptop, and I am the only one using the program, I should be able to use it on any floor, in any room and in MacDs while killing my self with fat and salt. I should not have to buy a multi copies. And, yep, reality is reality and the bloatware people can look into my drawers at will and restrict me! :thumbdown: (But some will work with you,,, Kudos to them :thumbup: )

By the way, soon you will have to check with Monsanto before having children... they patented the human genome!! Perhaps they automaticall allow you to have two!

Now to important things, my morning coffee... aaah.. no restrictions on the back of the package,,, I own it. :thumbup:

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Jan 29, 2012 10:00:26   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
dpullum wrote:
EmmonM wrote:
sorry guy, NOBODY SELLS soft ware, ...

Philosophy, legality, and reality and practical mater of the law are shades of gray differences...
Example, I have a photo edit program that is perhaps 20 years old. The company is defunct, yet in my hot little hand is a disk that I have loaded on my computer for years ... wonderful simplistic program to use compared to the swiss army knife called photoshop or PSP, both of which I purchased. The old program has No S# no registration possible tho the program asks saying thy will notify you of updates. Also I have several freeware that are just that, yes you agree not to alter; yet there are some open source that welcome alterations.

So Emmon, in a strict sense you are right; in a practical sense they do sell you software. If I sell a copyright photo to you, am I just allowing you to use it? No, you can draw a mustache on it, shred it, burn it.... you own it. Can you reproduce it and sell copies... no, not legally. Can you copy it and put it on each wall of the house and have it put on your coffee cup ,,, no not in the strict legal sense, but as a practical mater certainly.

IMO: While I know I can't, I feel that If I have a big house, three floors, and have stand alones on all 3 and in the basement, and a laptop, and I am the only one using the program, I should be able to use it on any floor, in any room and in MacDs while killing my self with fat and salt. I should not have to buy a multi copies. And, yep, reality is reality and the bloatware people can look into my drawers at will and restrict me! :thumbdown: (But some will work with you,,, Kudos to them :thumbup: )

By the way, soon you will have to check with Monsanto before having children... they patented the human genome!! Perhaps they automaticall allow you to have two!

Now to important things, my morning coffee... aaah.. no restrictions on the back of the package,,, I own it. :thumbup:
quote=EmmonM sorry guy, NOBODY SELLS soft ware, .... (show quote)


:thumbup:

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Jan 29, 2012 22:35:20   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
One Jughead wrote:
Old Timer wrote:
I am sorry for putting the wrong program on the question, I meant to say portraitprofessional. I will blame it on old-himzer desease.


I don't know how old you have to be to get the old-himzer disease, but I do know that you can get "Sometimers" at almost any age. I know because I have it.


Then, too, there's "Halfsheimers."

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