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Feb 16, 2014 08:00:23   #
Frapha Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A separate camera policy would cover specific items, so every time I bought or sold, I'd have to contact the company. Just a thought.


In most cases, that's correct, although some policies automatically cover replacements (when you sell a piece, the replacement is automatically covered for a period of time until you add it). However, generally, you're only asked to list by name, serial & model number for the "major" items and can usually include miscellaneous items such as cards, rechargeable batteries, chargers etc as "miscellaneous equipment" with a single bulk value. Also remember that "consumables" such as lens cleaner, lens tissues, non-rechargeable batteries, etc are generally considered to be uninsurable because they're eventually consumed.

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Feb 16, 2014 08:39:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Frapha wrote:
Most such policies are Replacement Cost -- i.e., no depreciation -- but again this can vary by company & state. Also, some companies offer an "inflation" coverage that automatically increases you coverage amount annually -- some offer as a standard part of the policy, some offer for a slight additional premium charge, and some don't offer. You're correct in that it can be an incentive for a "moral risk" but on the other hand, too many strange claims and you're likely to get a letter from the company that will make you a member of their "alumni association". :D Also remember that "consumables" such as lens cleaner, lens tissues, non-rechargeable batteries, etc are generally considered to be uninsurable because they're eventually consumed.
Most such policies are Replacement Cost -- i.e., n... (show quote)

The better the coverage, the higher the cost.

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Feb 16, 2014 08:48:00   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
I think you need to explore all venues. I have $20,000 worth of cameras, tripods, lenses, meters, etc insured for 275 annually with AAA homeowners. I had to provide a receipt for each item. It is insured against ALL incidents, drops, thief, etc., with no deductible. However, if I make a claim, I worry that my homeowners will go up or worse, they cancel me. But AAA is great, no hassle, responsive coverage. If something were to happen, they would be on top of it in a second. However, I worry about camera insurance and their addendum's, stipulations, and possibly face claim denied.

Bottom line - You do need protection.

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Feb 16, 2014 09:52:40   #
UtahBob Loc: Southern NJ
 
Frapha wrote:
Most such policies are Replacement Cost -- i.e., no depreciation -- but again this can vary by company & state. Also, some companies offer an "inflation" coverage that automatically increases you coverage amount annually -- some offer as a standard part of the policy, some offer for a slight additional premium charge, and some don't offer. You're correct in that it can be an incentive for a "moral risk" but on the other hand, too many strange claims and you're likely to get a letter from the company that will make you a member of their "alumni association". :D Also remember that "consumables" such as lens cleaner, lens tissues, non-rechargeable batteries, etc are generally considered to be uninsurable because they're eventually consumed.
Most such policies are Replacement Cost -- i.e., n... (show quote)


Thanks, I'll have to investigate a policy now.

As for Jerry's comment. I had a piece of equipment, not photography related, that was leased and required a property policy and was the only item on the policy. I sold it and since I thought the policy premium was fully earned (i.e. I was at a minimum premium) I didn't contact them when I sold it (and I believe it covered unscheduled misc tools and equip so I figured if I had a problem in that area I could at least have coverage through the end of the policy period). When the policy came up for renewal I declined and my broker noted that they could put in the bill of sale and the insurer might prorate the premium. Nothing ever happened but I called the insurer two months later and they said they couldn't do anything because my bill of sale didn't match the equipment description in the policy. So the problem was that I had a full description of the equipment with serial number but the broker had scheduled the piece with some less than detail description but I don't see the schedule because they do it electronically. Given that this was the only equipment on the policy, I'm surprised that they would go this far to avoid a proration but since I didn't renew it was in their best interest (although they had the policy for four years and the premium total in all that time was 50% of what the equipment cost - $2k on a $4k piece). I'm just glad to be rid of both a this point.

So my comment is that descriptions can make or break you in the end depending on the policy.

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Feb 16, 2014 10:00:12   #
2 Dog Don Loc: Virginia Beach VA
 
Well I can tell you from a recent personal experience that I added all my camera equipment to my valuable personal property rider on my home owners insurance. If you look closely at your home owners or renters insurance the things that get stolen are often not covered! Yes it is a pain to add and delete items from the list but not as painful as not having coverage. I recently had all my gear stolen while on travel in Europe. I had purchased a new lens for the trip and did not add it to the policy. I was reimbursed the full price for everything except the new lens. The insurance only cost about $35 per year for about $3,000 worth of equipment.

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Feb 16, 2014 12:41:08   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
My wife was an insurance agent. She says that the camera is covered under your home owners policy with most companies, and your deductible applies in there is a loss (camera value-deductible=settlement). There is another alternative. With most insurance companies you can "itemize" your camera equipment and select a deductible or not for the coverage. The additional cost on a home owners policy for my Nikon D700, 28-300, 16-35, and 50 is $31.00 per year for $4,000 worth of coverage with no deductible. The items must be itemized on the home owners policy. No all insurance companies are the same. My wife was an independent agent and placed the coverage with Auto-Owners Insurance Company, which is the coverage we have today. Hope this help. By the way, there is Professional use coverage and amateur use coverage. Be sure you know what you are asking for and buying.

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Feb 16, 2014 12:58:01   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
PVR8 wrote:
I will do that on Monday. Thanks!


I wrote about this company in my earlier post. Try Worth Ave. Group. It will provide you with coverage on all your electronic, camera, lenses, and even cell phones and laptops. You can find them on 'Google". I looked into the Home Owners scam. I found with all the companies, if you make a loss, thief claim it will be against your entire Home Owners policy. In the end you will pay more for your loss than it was worth in increased Home Owners insurance premiums. Also, be sure the company you choose is licensed in your State.

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Feb 16, 2014 13:18:36   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Frapha wrote:
Speaking from point of view of an Insurance professional with 43+ years in the industry, It's automatically covered under your Homeowners Policy (or renters policy), subject to whatever deductible you have on your homeowners policy. It's covered for theft from the premises or away from premises, fire, vandalism, etc. However, if you drop it or knock it off the table, the Homeowners policy will NOT provide coverage.

For that, you need a "camera floater" or "personal articles floater" (also referred to as Inland Marine Coverage) and they are cheap (assuming you're not a professional), -- talk with your homeowners agent. If you're a professional (income producing with camera), you can still get the coverage, it's just a little more expensive but still affordable considering the option of having nothing when your equipment is damaged.

You’re much better off with a separate policy, rather than attaching this coverage to your homeowners coverage for a couple reasons. First, if attached to your homeowners insurance, you’ll generally have a much higher deductible. Second, if attached to your homeowners insurance and you happen to have a theft claim on your camera equipment, it could result in a surcharge on your entire homeowners premium. By having on a separate policy, you can get a much lower deductible and avoid any potential surcharges on your homeowners policy if you have claim activity. In addition, the separate "Inland Marine" policy provides a much broader form of coverage that you get under your homeowners policy.

Rates vary widely from state to state. Check with the agent who writes your homeowners insurance about a separate policy. Your homeowners company/agent undoubtedly has ability to provide a separate policy covering your camera equipment with broader coverage (and cheaper) than the homeowners policy, and with much lower deductible (or no deductible). No need to find a different company unless you just don't like the company you already have.
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Feb 16, 2014 16:58:42   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
Bill Emmett: One loss does not necessitate an increase in your home owners policy. It's the number of claims and the period of time between claims that is the issue. Insurance is a competitive business and from year to year some insurance companies increase rates overall, others may cancel certain types of policies, and others eliminate specific demographics. An overall statement that a claim will increase your home owner policy premium is just not true.

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Feb 16, 2014 17:00:59   #
Frapha Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
 
Indiana wrote:
Bill Emmett: One loss does not necessitate an increase in your home owners policy. It's the number of claims and the period of time between claims that is the issue. Insurance is a competitive business and from year to year some insurance companies increase rates overall, others may cancel certain types of policies, and others eliminate specific demographics. An overall statement that a claim will increase your home owner policy premium is just not true.


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