Kuzano wrote:
Just read a post where a member on the forum commented that he/she wanted to buy a camera to work toward becoming professional. Camera budget ... $900.
That person literally got hammered by 2 to 1 posts about "better rethink the budget"... some proffering $9000 as a starting point.
REALLY??????
How does this type of reaction to a simple post encourage photography at any level.
That sounds great but there is a reality...that it takes money to start a real business.
They weren't being cruel, they were being truthful and practical. You may not agree..that's fine, but possibly they had some insight to the real world?
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I know there are some on this board who want to stifle professional dreams as a function of protecting a domain they think they alone own. I discount those people off the bat.
Interesting...you are psychic?
How in the world can you tell a person's motives through a forum post?
Could it possibly be that they've already have been through the grinder and know what it takes to be a pro?
Could it possibly be that they are giving the benefit of their experience just as others are?
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Does everybody really think that a person with skills and the courage to market their work (KEY word) cannot begin to sell their work and go on to created a thriving photography business.
It depends...are they going to be a real pro with insurance and enough gear so disasters don't happen (like the camera stops working 5 minutes before the wedding and the "pro" doesn't have a contingency plan) or are they just going to call themselves a pro because they can hit the shutter button and they could afford a camera?
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To people like the poster in this case, I say good luck and Go For It, even if there is only $900 bucks in the bank at the moment.
That's cool....it's not your money they are risking...if you think they should go for it...that's fine...but why do you feel the need to squelch opinions that don't agree with yours?
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The poster did not say they weren't able to spend more when it becomes necessary.
No comment...didn't read the post
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There certainly are many cameras/lens kits out there that can create work that WILL sell, and priced at $1000 or less. This is true particularly if you include used and refurbished camera's.
Sure...that's great but that wouldn't be the point would it?
Just because a camera can take a quality picture doesn't mean that that's the sum total of what it means to be a pro...right?
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I'm not the friendliest guy on this forum, and not particularly well liked by some whose shit I have gotten into it with.
I can certainly see why...
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But come on folks. Where's the camaraderie, the good intent, and the willingness to give a fellow hogger a hand up.
Yes, you can start a photography business with any number of camera's I can think of.
Sure...and if that's all that was to be considered..then nobody would disagree...but buying a camera isn't the end of the story for a pro is it?
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The camera is NOT the deterrent. The lack of willingness to do the work is the problem. Many of the responses on this forum would deter others and kill such willingness to make the attempt. Sad!! Sad!! Sad!! :cry:
Well...that and the lack of willingness to be legal...pay taxes on your profit, get insurance, get backup gear so that you don't fail at the worst time...and on and on...
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I would go ahead and make up a list of $900 camera's that will produce images that can be sold, but frankly the list is way to long.
heck...we'd agree...but nobody is saying that...you are building a straw man argument to burn it down.
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The spirit and creativity of the individual who does the appropriate things to become a professional is the heart of success.
Yeah...like pay business tax, get redundant gear for when disasters happen, keep books, get insurance..etc...
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Most of those who poo poo'd the $900 camera budget clearly have no aspirations of becoming professional, particularly if they think the camera and the money spent on it is the key to opening that door.
Lol...more psychic abilities swami?
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Big surprise for those people....A professional uses the camera that is available when the subject or scene presents itself. I am confident that many who are professional today started out with an UNDER $1000 camera equipped with one lens. :shock:
Yeah..and your point would be?
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To me, being a Professional Photographer, means creating part or all of your income with a camera and photography, no matter how much equipment you own or what you spent for it!
Yeah...and paying taxes on your profit, having insurance so that you protect yourself in case someone is hurt by your negligence or sues you, or having redundant gear so that you can deliver a product if your first camera fails, having a business license...etc...all those pesky details that separate pros from the wanna-be's.