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When should I use/not use a lens hood?
Feb 2, 2014 14:11:23 #
wj cody
Loc: springfield illinois
mwsilvers wrote:
The Link Sondek and the SOTA are high end audio turntables. Not sure why he brought them up.
the reason i brought them up, is it is another endless argument. folks who want to use lens hoods, will. those who don't won't simple as that.
in re: the turntables, back in the 1970s column after column, articles, and editorial letters were full of the "which one is better". it went on and on. and no one ever figured out the best turntable was the one your local stereo shop sold you and could support.
the endless round of filters/lenshoods is the same thing. evidently metaphors go here to die.
Feb 2, 2014 14:28:59 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
wj cody wrote:
the reason i brought them up, is it is another endless argument. folks who want to use lens hoods, will. those who don't won't simple as that.
Some of us are willing to learn and take advice. I didn't use lens hoods until about 15 month ago, when a fellow photographer explained how it helped even in the studio setting we were in. I've used them ever since.
Feb 2, 2014 14:41:17 #
wj cody
Loc: springfield illinois
i guess i'm sort of surprised you had not used them until then. but, there you go, i learn new things every day!
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Feb 2, 2014 14:45:25 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
wj cody wrote:
i guess i'm sort of surprised you had not used them until then. but, there you go, i learn new things every day!
And I didn't use or understand the benefits of back button focus a few weeks ago, thanks to people here. Now I can think of several situations where it would have made my life easier.
Feb 2, 2014 15:17:26 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
wj cody wrote:
the reason i brought them up, is it is another end... (show quote)
Having owned at various times a Linn as well as other high end tables, I completely understand the point you were trying to make. However, without getting back into the debate, I do think your analogy between the use of filters vs hoods to similar debates in high end audio is a little vague and one that would not be understood or appreciated by many here.
Feb 2, 2014 15:24:32 #
Feb 2, 2014 15:27:08 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
wj cody wrote:
i know, that's why everyone uses digital, today. (heh-heh)
See, a digital vs analog joke. I get it. But who else here will?
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Feb 2, 2014 15:36:27 #
wj cody
Loc: springfield illinois
ahhh, who cares in the great scheme of things?
it's just nice to know, someone was discerning and got it.
thanks!
it's just nice to know, someone was discerning and got it.
thanks!
Feb 2, 2014 15:38:43 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
wj cody wrote:
ahhh, who cares in the great scheme of things?
it's just nice to know, someone was discerning and got it.
thanks!
it's just nice to know, someone was discerning and got it.
thanks!
OK, you're welcome.
Feb 2, 2014 16:00:22 #
lighthouse
Loc: No Fixed Abode
wj cody wrote:
the reason i brought them up, is it is another endless argument. folks who want to use lens hoods, will. those who don't won't simple as that.
..........the endless round of filters/lenshoods is the same thing. evidently metaphors go here to die.
..........the endless round of filters/lenshoods is the same thing. evidently metaphors go here to die.
You have it slightly wrong wj cody.
And by doing so you are misrepresenting the argument.
The "filter/glass in front of lens" folk don't have a problem with the "hood for protection" folk.
It is the "hood for protection" folk that seem to be continually incensed by those of us who have a protective layer of glass on the front of our lenses.
nekon loves to tell us not to listen to Bryan Peterson, to listen to Moose Peterson instead because he knows his stuff and Bryan doesn't.
Well, here is nekons guru (who knows his stuff), telling us that he uses protective glass in front of every lens, and nekon fobs it off with "thats his problem"??????
Credibility gap widening there me thinks.
I agree with you.
If someone wants to use a hood, no worries.
If someone wants to use a UV or clear filter, no worries.
If someone wants to use both, or neither, depending on the circumstances, no worries.
But why do the hood crowd seem to get so incensed about it?
Feb 2, 2014 16:08:37 #
wj cody
Loc: springfield illinois
i don't know, to be honest. it puzzles me, too. i mean, everyone has a choice and gets to exercise it. while i've always used minolta and nikon cameras, i do admit a very personal hatred for nikon's break away lens hoods. spent half my life picking those damn things up. either they were a lousy idea, or i was clumsy!!
Feb 2, 2014 16:13:01 #
You people can waste all the money you choose on clear glass and UV filters.
They not only don't provide you any protection good common sense won't give you, but they degrade your image quality.
Go ahead; throw your money away. I'm sure you've got PLENTY to spare these days. :mrgreen:
They not only don't provide you any protection good common sense won't give you, but they degrade your image quality.
Go ahead; throw your money away. I'm sure you've got PLENTY to spare these days. :mrgreen:
Feb 2, 2014 16:14:13 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
lighthouse wrote:
You have it slightly wrong wj cody. br And by doin... (show quote)
Well, not all of the hood crowd. I use a hood exclusively unless I'm in a harsh environment with lots of wind and crap blowing around. In those occasional situations I will use filter. I have nothing against any one who chooses to use a filter or even a filter/hood combo all the time. Everyone should use whatever makes them comfortable. This is not a contest after all. If someone asks me if I use or recommend a filter my response may vary depending on who is asking and what equipment they have. Many people tend to be careless with their equipment, constantly banging into things. For them I would recommend a filter. But for the rest of us I don't think its necessary most of the time.
Feb 2, 2014 16:38:07 #
wj cody
Loc: springfield illinois
yup, in my little world took years to learn 2nd shutter curtain release! duh!
Feb 2, 2014 16:40:30 #
wj cody
Loc: springfield illinois
CHOLLY wrote:
You people can waste all the money you choose on clear glass and UV filters.
They not only don't provide you any protection good common sense won't give you, but they degrade your image quality.
Go ahead; throw your money away. I'm sure you've got PLENTY to spare these days. :mrgreen:
They not only don't provide you any protection good common sense won't give you, but they degrade your image quality.
Go ahead; throw your money away. I'm sure you've got PLENTY to spare these days. :mrgreen:
i must say, in defense of uv filter users, schott glass does not degrade anything. and other than a macro lens, the front element never focuses on the filter - does not recognise the existance of the filter and therefore remains unaffected by the presense of said filter.
i think i'm done with this.
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