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Jan 21, 2012 13:20:32   #
Photo-Al Loc: Sonoma County, CA
 
When I first saw the title of this, my thoughts went to football (Hey, it is playoff time ...!!) and for me, the Orton effect would be Kyle Orton throwing an incomplete pass or dropping the ball, so I assumed this would be about dropping your lens or chucking the camera downfield when a photo didn't turn out. :shock: Fortunately, it wasn't like that. Some good photos here and a chance to learn something.

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Jan 21, 2012 19:49:34   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
Photo-Al wrote:
When I first saw the title of this, my thoughts went to football (Hey, it is playoff time ...!!) and for me, the Orton effect would be Kyle Orton throwing an incomplete pass or dropping the ball, so I assumed this would be about dropping your lens or chucking the camera downfield when a photo didn't turn out. :shock: Fortunately, it wasn't like that. Some good photos here and a chance to learn something.


I was thinking professional wrestling.....you know, Randy Orton? :thumbup:

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Jan 21, 2012 20:20:10   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.

It has been described as follows:


The Orton Effect, named after Michael Orton who first used the technique, is a sandwich of two images, one in focus the other out of focus. Freeman Patterson and Andre Gallant have both used the technique successfully in their work as well.
The Orton image has traditionally been done using slide film with the first, sharp image overexposed by two stops and the second, out of focus image over exposed by one stop. It is important to use a tripod for this type of work to ensure your photographic elements remain in register on the film. The shots were then sandwiched together in a single slide mount to produce a beautiful, impressionistic image. We are beyond that now and with so many things in the world of digital photography, we can now duplicate the same effect in multiple ways.

A tutorial exists at this link-

http://osp.wikidot.com/orton-technique
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to s... (show quote)


couple of my interpetations of Orton effect

Long Island windmill
Long Island windmill...

Orton Lilly
Orton Lilly...

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Jan 21, 2012 22:15:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.

It has been described as follows:


The Orton Effect, named after Michael Orton who first used the technique, is a sandwich of two images, one in focus the other out of focus. Freeman Patterson and Andre Gallant have both used the technique successfully in their work as well.
The Orton image has traditionally been done using slide film with the first, sharp image overexposed by two stops and the second, out of focus image over exposed by one stop. It is important to use a tripod for this type of work to ensure your photographic elements remain in register on the film. The shots were then sandwiched together in a single slide mount to produce a beautiful, impressionistic image. We are beyond that now and with so many things in the world of digital photography, we can now duplicate the same effect in multiple ways.

A tutorial exists at this link-

http://osp.wikidot.com/orton-technique
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to s... (show quote)


couple of my interpetations of Orton effect
quote=greymule Does anyone use the Orton Techniqu... (show quote)


I think I know that windmill.

I tried Orton today with limited success. The tutorials I used were not for my software - PS5 and PE10. I did get a nice effect using Startrails, although my program is in German.

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Jan 21, 2012 22:22:04   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.

It has been described as follows:


The Orton Effect, named after Michael Orton who first used the technique, is a sandwich of two images, one in focus the other out of focus. Freeman Patterson and Andre Gallant have both used the technique successfully in their work as well.
The Orton image has traditionally been done using slide film with the first, sharp image overexposed by two stops and the second, out of focus image over exposed by one stop. It is important to use a tripod for this type of work to ensure your photographic elements remain in register on the film. The shots were then sandwiched together in a single slide mount to produce a beautiful, impressionistic image. We are beyond that now and with so many things in the world of digital photography, we can now duplicate the same effect in multiple ways.

A tutorial exists at this link-

http://osp.wikidot.com/orton-technique
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to s... (show quote)


couple of my interpetations of Orton effect
quote=greymule Does anyone use the Orton Techniqu... (show quote)


I think I know that windmill.

I tried Orton today with limited success. The tutorials I used were not for my software - PS5 and PE10. I did get a nice effect using Startrails, although my program is in German.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=greymule Does any... (show quote)


The windmill is on the south fork , the town and specific road escape my memory. lovely are, part of college campus.

found out thru "learn by doing" Subtle is best ( Mores Law does not appy)

I use dynamatrix plug in for PSE, 12 or 15 buckss I remember, great little toy HDR and Orton digital filter

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Jan 21, 2012 22:25:42   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Photo-Al wrote:
When I first saw the title of this, my thoughts went to football (Hey, it is playoff time ...!!) and for me, the Orton effect would be Kyle Orton throwing an incomplete pass or dropping the ball, so I assumed this would be about dropping your lens or chucking the camera downfield when a photo didn't turn out. :shock: Fortunately, it wasn't like that. Some good photos here and a chance to learn something.


you coulkd kill a man throwing a brick with a lens like the Minolta SRT Body ( then take a photo of the corpse)
Sturdy gear back in the day

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Jan 21, 2012 23:37:22   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.

It has been described as follows:


The Orton Effect, named after Michael Orton who first used the technique, is a sandwich of two images, one in focus the other out of focus. Freeman Patterson and Andre Gallant have both used the technique successfully in their work as well.
The Orton image has traditionally been done using slide film with the first, sharp image overexposed by two stops and the second, out of focus image over exposed by one stop. It is important to use a tripod for this type of work to ensure your photographic elements remain in register on the film. The shots were then sandwiched together in a single slide mount to produce a beautiful, impressionistic image. We are beyond that now and with so many things in the world of digital photography, we can now duplicate the same effect in multiple ways.

A tutorial exists at this link-

http://osp.wikidot.com/orton-technique
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to s... (show quote)


Yes, I have played alot with this and achieving similiar effects both with film and slide sandwiching and now with digital. There is much more than "meets the eye" with these approaches and 90% starts in the field.

Image below created in-camera. I have Michael Orton's one and only book on this "effect." The images I've seen created using the software (after the fact) approach do not come close to what he was creating.



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Jan 22, 2012 00:13:16   #
RockinRobinG Loc: The Middle of Nowhere, Nebraska
 
I tried this on an image in PSE 10 which will actually assist you in adjusting blur, noise, and brightness.

The image I am posting was sent to me by a friend who asked me to "do something with this." photo of her with her mom who is in a nursing home. The original image (NOTmine) was taken with a cell phone and is posted with permission. I was able to enlarge the Orton Effect image to 5x7 with good results.

It's the first time I had ever tried it...and it made her cry.

My job is done.

What I had to work with...
What I had to work with......

Orton Effect
Orton Effect...

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Jan 22, 2012 05:30:53   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
great representation of the technique!

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Jan 22, 2012 07:44:38   #
RockinRobinG Loc: The Middle of Nowhere, Nebraska
 
Wanda Krack wrote:
I occ. use the orton effect, it depends on the image. Bright flowers work well with this technique. However, here is how I do it, as given to me by a friend years ago. #1 duplicate layer, change blending mode to screen. #2 duplicate that layer (it gets really light). #3 use Gaussian blur.....sliders for the amount....I usually use around 24. #4 on this layer, change the blending mode to multiply.....sliders for the amounts. That's it....easy. I don't know if this is the true orton effects that was original, and I certainly don't shoot one shot out of focus for this, but it works on some images. I quickly used this on an image I took in the mountains a couple of weeks ago, just to show the effects.

I have also discovered an effect similiar to this, by using the clarity slider toward the negative numbers in camera raw......it softens the image considerably, and sometimes resembles the orton effect.
I occ. use the orton effect, it depends on the ima... (show quote)


Wanda, this is lovely photo and beautiful use of the Orton Effect. It reminds me of a Thomas Kinkade painting (without a little bungalow with light shining through the windows).

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Jan 22, 2012 09:56:36   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
RockinRobinG wrote:
Wanda Krack wrote:
I occ. use the orton effect, it depends on the image. Bright flowers work well with this technique. However, here is how I do it, as given to me by a friend years ago. #1 duplicate layer, change blending mode to screen. #2 duplicate that layer (it gets really light). #3 use Gaussian blur.....sliders for the amount....I usually use around 24. #4 on this layer, change the blending mode to multiply.....sliders for the amounts. That's it....easy. I don't know if this is the true orton effects that was original, and I certainly don't shoot one shot out of focus for this, but it works on some images. I quickly used this on an image I took in the mountains a couple of weeks ago, just to show the effects.

I have also discovered an effect similiar to this, by using the clarity slider toward the negative numbers in camera raw......it softens the image considerably, and sometimes resembles the orton effect.
I occ. use the orton effect, it depends on the ima... (show quote)


Wanda, this is lovely photo and beautiful use of the Orton Effect. It reminds me of a Thomas Kinkade painting (without a little bungalow with light shining through the windows).
quote=Wanda Krack I occ. use the orton effect, it... (show quote)


good job with grannie but it is NOT the "Orton effect."

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Jan 22, 2012 11:22:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I followed an Adobe tutorial using PS Elements 10 to get the Orton Effect. Not quite the same as the real thing, but it does give a nice effect.

I'll have to keep working with the two shots - sharp, blurry, and overexposed.

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Jan 22, 2012 13:12:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.


Here is an attempt at Orton using PS5. I'll keep trying. There's a tremendous amount of variation possible using PS.



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Jan 22, 2012 13:23:57   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.


Here is an attempt at Orton using PS5. I'll keep trying. There's a tremendous amount of variation possible using PS.


yes and just think.....what if you were to actually create this look in-camera? How cool would that be?

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Jan 22, 2012 15:33:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
docrob wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
greymule wrote:
Does anyone use the Orton Technique? I'd love to see some images using this tecnique.


Here is an attempt at Orton using PS5. I'll keep trying. There's a tremendous amount of variation possible using PS.


yes and just think.....what if you were to actually create this look in-camera? How cool would that be?


That will probably be a menu item on the next generation of something.

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