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Jan 9, 2014 10:51:03   #
RAFriedman Loc: NYC/ Philadelphia
 
No, no video. Strictly still images and though I occasionally use the GH2 now, I find the images look flat and wan compared to a full-frame dslr or even a scanned 35mm neg.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:00:28   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
RAFriedman wrote:
No, no video. Strictly still images and though I occasionally use the GH2 now, I find the images look flat and wan compared to a full-frame dslr or even a scanned 35mm neg.


But the question one has to ask with a statement like that...do you want to lug that FF camera (unless you are talking A7r) around with you? The EM5 would be a huge step up in performance for you...the EM1 even more.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:01:58   #
ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
The handling that night when I took the photo is what convinced me that mirrorless was the way to go. The photos that I took with the E-5 after the sun went down were virtually useless.

Now before the sun went down the, the E-5 was great, and I took some cool shots that evening with it. But with no light...the noise was too much to stand...the epm2 stepped in nicely. Funny thing was, I just happened to just grab it on the way out the door...didn't really plan on bringing it with me. Boy that would have been a mistake.
The handling that night when I took the photo is w... (show quote)


I understand. Once dusk hits then I pretty much put the E-3 away unless I am using a tripod, low ISO and long exposure. I end up using my little X10 more in low light or even no light as that EXR sensor is no gimmick. Only 6mp vs 12 but still enough there to work with. Not even worth mentioning in the same sentence with the EM-5 but....

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Jan 9, 2014 11:03:16   #
RAFriedman Loc: NYC/ Philadelphia
 
Right now any upgrade is out of budget, so the plan is to maximize the potential of the gear I have. But I will definitely check out.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:05:07   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
What software do you use to edit? I have found switching to LR5 has really helped, as does shooting in RAW, but that's just me, I really enjoy editing photos.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:07:02   #
RAFriedman Loc: NYC/ Philadelphia
 
Currently running an ancient PC with LR2. Upgrade would certainly improve image quality.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:08:45   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
I'd start there...big improvements from LR2 to LR5. Besides if you ever upgrade your camera (and shoot raw)...you'll want to upgrade LR. unless you want to convert all your files to DNG (free, but a PITA).

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Jan 9, 2014 11:14:44   #
ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore
 
RAFriedman wrote:
Currently running an ancient PC with LR2. Upgrade would certainly improve image quality.


I also like the way Noiseware cleans up the noise with minimal to no smearing. I use the free Community Edition. (And LR5)

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Jan 9, 2014 11:22:08   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
I have a Panasonic DMC-G1 (first generation) a set of lenses and I love the u-4/3 format, it's great for traveling. And smaller and lighter is good in many ways and many applications.

Micro-4/3 bodies have gotten better since the G1, and they will continue to get better. More and better u-4/3 lenses are appearing. And those lenses are a lot more cost effective than full frame lenses.

Each generation of sensors improves on performance, to the point that some smaller sensors of today are as good (or better) as the larger sensors of yesterday.

Will state of the art full frame sensors always be better state of the art cropped frame sensors? Perhaps, but the differences may narrow down to the point that the size and cost of the larger sensors and lenses only makes sense for professional applications. Full frame cameras today still have their use, but people don't carry them around everyday.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:24:09   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
jd7000 wrote:
Will state of the art full frame sensors always be better state of the art cropped frame sensors? Perhaps, but the differences may narrow down to the point that the size and cost of the larger sensors and lenses only makes sense for professional applications. Full frame cameras today still have their use, but people don't carry them around everyday.


:thumbup:
The average to above average person doesn't really need FF.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:34:58   #
ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
:thumbup:
The average to above average person doesn't really need FF.


Ever seen that great TV ad where a famous photographer (I can't remember who - Bailey?) is on the street with a PEN and confronting all these folks who are shooting DSLR, many FF, with great big honking lenses on them and everyone of them is shooting on full auto and when he questions them about the merits, functions and capabilities of their cameras they haven't a clue? So why not, he asks, shoot with a smaller camera that can do 90% of what the big cameras can and some things better?

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Jan 9, 2014 11:41:09   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
ocbeyer wrote:
Ever seen that great TV ad where a famous photographer (I can't remember who - Bailey?) is on the street with a PEN and confronting all these folks who are shooting DSLR, many FF, with great big honking lenses on them and everyone of them is shooting on full auto and when he questions them about the merits, functions and capabilities of their cameras they haven't a clue? So why not, he asks, shoot with a smaller camera that can do 90% of what the big cameras can and some things better?


never seen it...if you find it post it.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:42:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
[why not, he asks, shoot with a smaller camera that can do 90% of what the big cameras can and some things better?[/quote]

Exactly. And way cheaper too.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:47:52   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
ocbeyer wrote:
Ever seen that great TV ad where a famous photographer (I can't remember who - Bailey?) is on the street with a PEN and confronting all these folks who are shooting DSLR, many FF, with great big honking lenses on them and everyone of them is shooting on full auto and when he questions them about the merits, functions and capabilities of their cameras they haven't a clue? So why not, he asks, shoot with a smaller camera that can do 90% of what the big cameras can and some things better?


To this point, my ex-wife (with whom I'm still very friendly) has an old Canon 1DMk2 full frame DSLR that my E-5 blew away, but now my EM-1 just trounces. It's really about how little noise the sensor generates as a function of its pixel density, light gathering ability (through the lenses), and image processing software to help organize the colors, contrast, ex-out the artifacts, etc. Systems today are far more capable for a lot less money, size and weight than even 7 or eight years ago.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:48:39   #
adolphjohn2
 
Thank you everyone for your response. Very helpful. Blessings.

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