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Jan 3, 2014 15:51:18   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
amehta wrote:
Interesting, it's $129 on the adorama site, but $90 though their ebay page, as you said. I used 4 of these on my Australia/New Zealand trip. (So I had multiple backups, not because I took 8TB of pictures!)


The blue one is $126 at Amazon right now so $90 is still looking pretty good.

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Jan 3, 2014 15:57:57   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
The blue one is $126 at Amazon right now so $90 is still looking pretty good.

An excellent drive, and an excellent price. I have 2 attached to my laptop right now.

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Jan 3, 2014 19:18:51   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
amehta wrote:
The "cloud" part of this is entirely secondary. The NAS is really about simplifying access within the home network.

If online storage is working for you, then you're fine. But with image files getting pretty big, the cloud isn't where most photographers will keep their photos. Today's DSLRs produce raw files which are in the 20MB range, so 5000 images will be 100GB. Some people are better at throwing out pictures than others, but if you didn't take 5000 pictures last year, go out and shoot more. ;-)

Personally, I'm okay with cloud storage as a backup for some stuff, but I'm not willing to put all my pictures there, so I need something in my house. Right now I have a bunch of USB drives, which means
1. They're only accessible by one computer at a time.
2. The laptop has things attached, so it's not as portable.
The "cloud" part of this is entirely sec... (show quote)


Good points. I back up to two external drives and the cloud via Carbonite. I try to make sure I only send finished products to Carbonite--I cull out most RAW files and working "drafts" before I save it there for the reasons you so accurately address. I do save some RAW files if I think I may use them later for a different purpose. But it is a bit unusual.

And I need to shoot more. :-)

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Jan 3, 2014 19:37:19   #
Dontrain Loc: Chicago suburb
 
I am having good success with Backblaze about $5/month. I found out about it here at UHH.

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Jan 3, 2014 21:01:57   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
Dontrain wrote:
I am having good success with Backblaze about $5/month. I found out about it here at UHH.


I'm looking at switching from Carbonite to Jimmy Drive. Spoke to Jimmy Beltz, the guy who "owns" it, today about some questions. I also heard about it on the Hog.

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Jan 4, 2014 12:11:54   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
As far as I am concerned, only two types of backups are important: redundancy and disaster. There are multiple ways, but redundancy is easily done with an external hard drive (USB, FireWire, Thunderbolt, SATA, etc.). Adding more than two does not significantly lower your risk of data loss because it increases management and complexity. For example, an elaborate backup strategy with RAID5 is a bit overkill for most home users, and MOST of the NAS solutions out there run on their own proprietary file system (a derivative of Linux). Yes, they are compatible with Windows and the Mac OS, but only because they use SMB/CIFS (two common TCP/IP protocols for sharing data).

Disaster is the one we often times struggle with. How much risk are you willing to assume will ultimately dictate how much effort and money you should spend to keep your data safe 'outside your home'. Off-site online storage is a good solution for disasters. Is it critically important that you find the absolute best most reputable online storage provider? Not really because you already have a redundant copy at home. Worrying about the security of your off-site online data is another matter that must also be calculated into your risk assessment.

Since the only data critically important to me are my photos, I upload them to Zenfolio for $50 /year. I get unlimited storage. Of course, there are some drawbacks. The maximum single file size with my subscription is 36MB. I've never needed more than this for my post processed JPG files, but this excludes me from storing RAW. I'm okay with assuming this risk, but everyone is different. If I were a professional, then part of my business plan would include less risk.

I have a Gigabit Ethernet NAS storage (personal cloud) device at home for sharing, but not for redundancy due to its ext4 file system. As others have suggested, I wouldn't use a NAS for my primary backup solution, or if I did, then I'd have a backup plan to backup the backup.

Sorry for the long post. Hope someone found it useful above some of the great comments that have already been offered. I apologize for any redundancy (no pun intended) :-) -Mark

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Jan 4, 2014 12:24:28   #
Jeep for Larry Loc: Grapevine, Texas
 
amehta wrote:
This does not require being connected to the internet, simply to your "home network". Being able to share data between different machines is really nice.


I have the 2TB 'my cloud' and use it as redundant backup, 3rd copy. I really like the WD Photo app for access to photos from iphone/ipad via internet or wi-fi. I can put some photos in a folder called 'take a look' and my kids can see them (and all photos also) from their devices. I also don't have to sync my ipad/iphone daily to have access to all my recent photos, although away from home access is slower than access on home network.

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Jan 4, 2014 14:17:01   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
This is all good info. Thanks for taking the time to go into the details.

mdorn wrote:
As far as I am concerned, only two types of backups are important: redundancy and disaster. There are multiple ways, but redundancy is easily done with an external hard drive (USB, FireWire, Thunderbolt, SATA, etc.). Adding more than two does not significantly lower your risk of data loss because it increases management and complexity. For example, an elaborate backup strategy with RAID5 is a bit overkill for most home users, and MOST of the NAS solutions out there run on their own proprietary file system (a derivative of Linux). Yes, they are compatible with Windows and the Mac OS, but only because they use SMB/CIFS (two common TCP/IP protocols for sharing data).

Disaster is the one we often times struggle with. How much risk are you willing to assume will ultimately dictate how much effort and money you should spend to keep your data safe 'outside your home'. Off-site online storage is a good solution for disasters. Is it critically important that you find the absolute best most reputable online storage provider? Not really because you already have a redundant copy at home. Worrying about the security of your off-site online data is another matter that must also be calculated into your risk assessment.

Since the only data critically important to me are my photos, I upload them to Zenfolio for $50 /year. I get unlimited storage. Of course, there are some drawbacks. The maximum single file size with my subscription is 36MB. I've never needed more than this for my post processed JPG files, but this excludes me from storing RAW. I'm okay with assuming this risk, but everyone is different. If I were a professional, then part of my business plan would include less risk.

I have a Gigabit Ethernet NAS storage (personal cloud) device at home for sharing, but not for redundancy due to its ext4 file system. As others have suggested, I wouldn't use a NAS for my primary backup solution, or if I did, then I'd have a backup plan to backup the backup.

Sorry for the long post. Hope someone found it useful above some of the great comments that have already been offered. I apologize for any redundancy (no pun intended) :-) -Mark
As far as I am concerned, only two types of backup... (show quote)

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Jan 4, 2014 16:18:48   #
billjohdoittoday Loc: Arkansas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
WD now offers something called "My Cloud" for off-site backup. You get 4TB of storage for $229.99, with no monthly fees.
It works only with certain WD drives, and the offer ends January 19. You can access your files with various devices, not just your computer.


For several years I've been very happy with Carbonite. $99/year. Unlimited backup (I'm currently backing about 300 Gig). Whenever I've had to restore (two times in four years -- and always because of user error) everything has gone smoothly. Typically I've had an "oh, s*it, I didn't mean to erase that" moment, remembered I have Carbonite, retrieved the file(s) in a few minutes, and happily gone on my way. This is one of the very few products that I can 100% recommend.

Bill

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Feb 27, 2015 02:19:22   #
Timo75
 
I am actually using "Ahsay software" for taking large backup it helps me a lot. So if anyone want can use this software too. leaving a link below just check. http://www.ahsay.com/jsp/en/home/index.jsp?pageContentKey=ahsay_products_overview

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