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Dec 11, 2013 08:21:27   #
Frank3z
 
Bipartisan politics has kicked into such a high gear that many, even when presented with the facts that dispute their criticisms, will continue to support their beliefs regardless, hence the term cognitive dissonance.

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Dec 11, 2013 08:27:35   #
sourdough58 Loc: Maine
 
Canonuser wrote:
For months I've sat here reading all manner of whinging by Americans about their President. Today I saw this man stand head and shoulders above all other World leaders and make a speech at the Mandela memorial event that was stunningly brilliant. I cannot imagine any of his recent predecessors being able to speak so honestly or with such impact, conviction and meaning as he did today. We would all do well to remember his comments and implement them in our own lives, as doing so would make the World a far better place to live in. Certainly it would be far better to do this than sniping over such issues as Obamacare. His was the only contribution that brought everyone to their feet and should have made Americans feel proud, although I susoect there will still be plenty who will sadly wish to continue the sniping.
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Nelson Mandela was a terroist he united black people to kill white people. Nelson Mandela Sings "kill Whites"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8qQE4Y2Js&list=HL1386768126&feature=mh_lolz

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Dec 11, 2013 08:28:14   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
jwenz wrote:
I agree and tried to say that once on this site as well. I got blasted out of the water because like it or not, there are plenty of people who vehemently despise the elected leader of our country and they have no trouble saying they have the right (which they do) to express their angst and loathing of our current administration. Still, I continue to read their views trying somehow to understand how they can continue with so much hate.
I 'kinda' like our country and although it is not perfect, the USA is the greatest country on the planet. Those of us that live here (or there) have to live together. Or at least try. Sure it's fine to have disagreement, but some of these people take it to a frightening level. Try and roll with the punches. I just kinda nod and think 'Oh well".
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That's what is positive about these forums, you can read and shake your head, sometimes in amazement, or you can vent a little and get blasted. Not too often is anyone absolutely right. Yes, it's good to have some other views to stimulate (or not) your thinking. Some can blast you good and think they've won, but I feel the silent majority just shakes their heads and "rolls with the punches." Some, however, can justifiably blast us! :-)

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Dec 11, 2013 08:30:11   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Frank3z wrote:
Bipartisan politics has kicked into such a high gear that many, even when presented with the facts that dispute their criticisms, will continue to support their beliefs regardless, hence the term cognitive dissonance.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :-D

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Dec 11, 2013 08:34:50   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
DaveO wrote:
I made no reference as to why this forum is on UHH. I did point out that I have the ability to not read it if I don't like it. If a view you haven't considered happens to be blatantly racist or demeaning or lacking credibility when stated as fact, I wouldn't call it conceited if you pointed that out. If you are not aware of what me and others are referring to, please continue to be happy.


I would like you to point out a racist statement on this forum. I do not agree that any statement of displeasure with the current Administration is automatically racist. If that was true we could go back to the comments about Bush and declare them all to be racist. He was, after all, the most hated animal on the planet; an old white man.

I am not so conceited to make a statement like you did: "If you are not aware of what me and others are referring to, please continue to be happy." You are automatically assuming you are some how far more intelligent than anyone that disagrees with you. I should also add condescending to your attitude.

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Dec 11, 2013 08:47:39   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
ted45 wrote:
I would like you to point out a racist statement on this forum. I do not agree that any statement of displeasure with the current Administration is automatically racist. If that was true we could go back to the comments about Bush and declare them all to be racist. He was, after all, the most hated animal on the planet; an old white man.

I am not so conceited to make a statement like you did: "If you are not aware of what me and others are referring to, please continue to be happy." You are automatically assuming you are some how far more intelligent than anyone that disagrees with you. I should also add condescending to your attitude.
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Man, you got to take a breath! I'm referring to many different threads over time, not necessarily the current one, when I reference racism. It's like someone stating there are millions of starving people all over the world and you tell them to name one. Apparently you haven't read enough responses on various days where members express discord about some of the "possibly improper conduct" of others to the point they wish Admin would intervene. Also, don't presume to what you think others assume, it makes you sound condescending. :-D

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Dec 11, 2013 08:53:44   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
Canonuser wrote:
For months I've sat here reading all manner of whinging by Americans about their President. Today I saw this man stand head and shoulders above all other World leaders and make a speech at the Mandela memorial event that was stunningly brilliant. I cannot imagine any of his recent predecessors being able to speak so honestly or with such impact, conviction and meaning as he did today. We would all do well to remember his comments and implement them in our own lives, as doing so would make the World a far better place to live in. Certainly it would be far better to do this than sniping over such issues as Obamacare. His was the only contribution that brought everyone to their feet and should have made Americans feel proud, although I susoect there will still be plenty who will sadly wish to continue the sniping.
For months I've sat here reading all manner of whi... (show quote)


Obama is quite talented at delivering a scripted speech. Something that can be appreciated when you aren't directly affected by his actions or agenda. His approval ratings here in his own country have dropped below 50% in last few months and in a recent poll, a majority said they would vote for Romney if they could have a do-over of the election.

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Dec 11, 2013 08:54:56   #
ottopj Loc: Annapolis, MD USA
 
Unfortunately, there will be the nay-sayers who wish he would stay in South Africa.

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Dec 11, 2013 08:55:05   #
brow3904 Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
lolrof

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Dec 11, 2013 08:56:18   #
ottopj Loc: Annapolis, MD USA
 
We wouldn't expect you to take new information in and incorporate it into your pea brain.

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Dec 11, 2013 09:00:58   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
DaveO wrote:
Some people just don't get it. Extreme dislike often makes some people unhappy and short sighted. Totally counter-productive and limits ones ability to effectively evaluate.


It's as bad as blind ADORATION!

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Dec 11, 2013 09:05:10   #
richard-sports Loc: New York City
 
tuffsheet wrote:
1. The speech was written by somebody else....without a script he's lost. 2. Apartheid is the only subject he can relate to because he's not a businessman.
3. Someone who lives across the pond shouldn't tell us what we should be using as a guide in leading our lives.. This man you speak of has created so much division in this country it will take years to undo if it ever gets undone.
4. This is a photography forum.....So don't start contaminating this site with politics!

P.S. If you lived in this country you would see that Obamacare is just 1 major problem...Immigration is another, as is support for our military. I could go on for hours..................
1. The speech was written by somebody else....wi... (show quote)


All the President's have speechwriters you morons.

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Dec 11, 2013 09:05:50   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
DaveO wrote:
Man, you got to take a breath! I'm referring to many different threads over time, not necessarily the current one, when I reference racism. It's like someone stating there are millions of starving people all over the world and you tell them to name one. Apparently you haven't read enough responses on various days where members express discord about some of the "possibly improper conduct" of others to the point they wish Admin would intervene. Also, don't presume to what you think others assume, it makes you sound condescending. :-D
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I am tired of the Democrats playing the race card every time they can't come up with an intelligent response. Yes, there are some extremely stupid comments made on this forum but I have not seen more than one or two that were overtly racist. There seems to be a witch hunt for racism these days and it is getting old.

In the early sixties I was threatened with arrest for sharing a coke with a fellow Marine in Rocky Mt, NC simply because he was black and I'm not. I have seen real racism in my time and what goes on today is nothing compared to the real thing. The most racist town I have ever been in was Chicago in the early 70's. I have been denied jobs I applied for because the company was under federal order to hire more blacks. That was then, years ago.

If you want to keep crying racism then I want to see the proof because it doesn't show up in my daily experience.

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Dec 11, 2013 09:08:37   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
bvm wrote:
It's as bad as blind ADORATION!


Very true! :-)

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Dec 11, 2013 09:13:07   #
Frank3z
 
:thumbup:

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