Bloke
Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
ggttc wrote:
I am disappointed in the manual. It was written by teenage alien schizophrenics who were off their meds and put out 286 pages of text without giving a comprehensive overview of any feature except how to turn the camera on and off...
There...I feel so much better.
But as Linda from a state that starts with an "M" said...ask a question here and you will get an understandable answer from people who are knowledgable photographers and have actually used the camera.
Personally, leave the manual at home...put the camera on auto and go out and learn the ins and outs of focusing...auto focus can get fooled pretty easily...and no feature can help with an out of focus shot...then work your way thru the other modes...one by one, refering to the manual and the folks here.
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I agree about the manual. I am also unhappy that I had to pay to get it printed before I could find out how bad it was - I cannot work with a manual on screen, I need a book in my hand. Normally, when I get something complex like this, the first thing I do is sit down with it and the manual, and figure it out.
I don't use auto mode at all. I understand the normal functions well enough to get by. A lot of the time it is in P, switching to Av or Tv when I need that extra bit of control. Most of the 'extra' functions that don't work with RAW, I will never use anyway. It is just nice to know that I *can* get at them if I need to, by switching to jpeg only.
Two thirds of the manual are taken up with all that stuff... Does anyone really do all that B&W/HDR/assign colour/ stuff in the camera these days? When there are a gazzillion programs to do it all on a computer - and *not* to lose the original shot...
Maybe Canon figure that 'real' photographers won't buy a camera like this, and aim the manual squarely at the beginner crowd? I downloaded the manual for the 5D when the mark III came out - wishful thinking! - and that is a *proper* manual. I would hope that - at that price - it comes with a proper book, too!
Bloke
Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
Yep, I already have it. It was in the mail when I had Staples print out the manual for me. Looking at it when it first came, it is very difficult to understand without having read and understood the relevant sections of the manual. Looking at it again last night, it now makes a lot more sense. Definitely something worth having, to stuff in the gadget bag. It isn't a substitute for the manual, though - in case anyone is thinking of getting one instead of, rather than as well as.
Given the state of the manual, I am surprised that someone hasn't come out with a 'dummies guide to' book on the SX50... You know, the "missing manual..." kind of thing. I scoured amazon, and if there had been one there, I would have had it like a shot! Nope, nothing even close.
Bloke wrote:
... Does anyone really do all that B&W/HDR/assign colour/ stuff in the camera these days?.....
There are a number of people that DO use the IN-CAMERA B&W, HDR, etc. SOME of those modes do not get used, but a lot do.
And there are a great share of the SX50 users that do NOT use RAW!
I have tried the RAW and feel that there is too much work to get to the results I see from the JPGS I download because I get the camera set correctly before snapping. I rarely do much in post process other than cropping unless I took the picture with a special project in mind.
Wahawk wrote:
There are a number of people that DO use the IN-CAMERA B&W, HDR, etc. SOME of those modes do not get used, but a lot do.
And there are a great share of the SX50 users that do NOT use RAW!
I have tried the RAW and feel that there is too much work to get to the results I see from the JPGS I download because I get the camera set correctly before snapping. I rarely do much in post process other than cropping unless I took the picture with a special project in mind.
Wahawk, I am trying to get to the point that I don't need much pp either. Not there yet. Another personal problem, is that I am extremely critical of my shots. If they don't compare to the best I have seen from others, then I delete them or ignore them. Some, that made me go "wow" when I first view them, I later decide were no good after all. I really have a hard time being objective. Plus I don't trust my gut either. Yeah, I am a mess LOL.
Bloke wrote:
I agree about the manual............................ It is just nice to know that I *can* get at them if I need to, by switching to jpeg only.
Two thirds of the manual are taken up with all that stuff... Does anyone really do all that B&W/HDR/assign colour/ stuff in the camera these days? When there are a gazzillion programs to do it all on a computer - and *not* to lose the original shot...
You don't have to physically switch to JPG mode to use the scene modes.. just turn the dial it automagically turn RAW off and switches to JPG. I was just playing with the modes and thought I'd get the photos in RAW also. Nada.
I don't use all those editing things in camera, I use my editing program on my computer, if I edit with that stuff to begin with... as far as I'm concerned, that stuff is fluff and not needed.
I was a bit overwhelmed with the 286 page manual, too. What I found helpful was to print just a couple of pages of the feature I was trying to learn. My first thought was to try everything that was new and different but then I came to my senses and slowed down a bit. 8-) I also went through all the YouTube videos that another UHH'er posted by FatDragon100. She goes through just about every feature using her SX40 and you can also apply it to the SX50 to a large degree. Check out her videos when you have time, Bloke. In the meantime keep shooting. :D
Lee
I broke down and printed off the manual in two sided mode... for a loose leaf notebook size book. I can see it.
Have you tried to use the Index at the back? It's almost useless.
Please don't mind my shots with the window light... they're just some of the first shots with my camera.
Bloke
Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
RedIris wrote:
I broke down and printed off the manual in two sided mode... for a loose leaf notebook size book. I can see it.
Have you tried to use the Index at the back? It's almost useless.
Please don't mind my shots with the window light... they're just some of the first shots with my camera.
I didn't even *find* the index until someone here pointed it out. It is lost in the pages of warnings and bumf. And yes, it is useless. There should be a mention of *every* feature in there at least once!
Maybe I am missing something, but I have been using the SX50 since February of this year and still haven't looked at the manual!!! Just played around with it for a while before I took it out shooting!!
Wahawk wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, but I have been using the SX50 since February of this year and still haven't looked at the manual!!! Just played around with it for a while before I took it out shooting!!
We feel we are missing something too.... a clear and precise manual. ;)
I went from a G series camera to the xs50hs, and I know how the Menus are laid out. So, I read through and have only looked at it a few more times since May, when I bought my camera. When you want to know something about your camera, you look it up in the manual. If it isn't in the INDEX or Table of contents..... why should you have to re-read the whole manual to find what you're looking for?
You shouldn't have to 'take notes' as to where you found the answer.
In comparison, I was reading over the manual for the new PS G16 the other day... it's much more "tutorialistic" and an easier read than the sx50hs manual.
Bloke
Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
Wahawk wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, but I have been using the SX50 since February of this year and still haven't looked at the manual!!! Just played around with it for a while before I took it out shooting!!
I don't know, maybe you had experience of other digital cameras before? I don't know about everybody else, but this is so far from my previous experience that it is not intuitive at all.
Heck, maybe we are all dumb and you are the clever one... I don't know.
Every other camera I have ever handled which had a Tv mode - Canon A1, Nikon F2 and FE something, Chinon (store-branded slr) - if you set a shutter speed, then that was the speed the shutter went at, no matter what. Why would I guess that the camera might not let me shoot at my chosen speed?
Enough people have posted here to let me know I am not alone in this!
Bloke
Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
RedIris wrote:
We feel we are missing something too.... a clear and precise manual. ;)
I went from a G series camera to the xs50hs, and I know how the Menus are laid out. So, I read through and have only looked at it a few more times since May, when I bought my camera. When you want to know something about your camera, you look it up in the manual. If it isn't in the INDEX or Table of contents..... why should you have to re-read the whole manual to find what you're looking for?
You shouldn't have to 'take notes' as to where you found the answer.
In comparison, I was reading over the manual for the new PS G16 the other day... it's much more "tutorialistic" and an easier read than the sx50hs manual.
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I have just been out shooting, and found another 'clever extra' feature... At some point, I turned off the review of the shot just taken. I was shooting today in strong, directional sunlight, and I wanted to see if it was working out. I went in to the menu, and the review option is set to OFF, and greyed out so it cannot be selected. Changing the camera to Auto, I go into the menu, and review is ON, and set to 2 seconds. Change back to P, or Tv or Av, the option is still set to OFF and unavailable.
I tried searching in the wonderful pdf manual - turns out adobe reader does not have a search feature, which kinda defeats any positive reason for the online manual, but still.
I found 3 pages which reference the review function. According to the grid of features at the back, this is available in all the modes I am trying to use. The other 2 places it was mentioned do not give any indication that it cannot be turned back on again.
I know I am starting to sound like a scratched record (dating myself there...), but can anyone tell me how to get this back?
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