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Nov 26, 2013 08:26:16   #
Bobbee
 
sb wrote:
God has a wife??? You mean she's GAY??? :)


HaHaHaHa.

I like that one I heard some time ago...

"God created man in her own image............." loved that one.

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Nov 26, 2013 08:32:04   #
Bazamac Loc: Manchester, UK
 
larry48911 wrote:
God has a wife?????Oh come on children ! Read the BIBLE!


God exists??? Oh come on children! Grow up!

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Nov 26, 2013 08:37:31   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm sure most of you guys have visited God and spoken to him personally but discounting other theories is just close minded.


Of course not...painting Christians as nut-jobs is not only unfair but it shows your lack of balance when discussing views you disagree with.



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Although I wouldn't use the word wife, it was believed by the Pagans that there was a male and a female god and that they ruled the earth. The female was dominant in the Spring and Summer and the male counterpart in the Fall and Winter.
As many of the Christian beliefs are traceable to their Pagan roots, I wouldn't be too quick to discount everything.


Having heard, and dealt with this sloppy/bogus accusation many times, I'd invite you to email me with whatever case you'd like to make showing that Christianity is a copy of an earlier religion.



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Christmas which we celebrate on December 25, was originally the Winter Solstice and the burning of the Yule Log was part of that celebration along with what we know now as the Christmas Tree.


Probably true but not for the reason you think.


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So tell me, what makes you guys so certain or for that matter so defensive about having a female deity?



Not defensive, just like to protect the truth from unwarranted baseless accusations....that's all.


We are certain that the Bible is God's word, and therefore what it speaks is truth because of the impossibility of the contrary.

When you can give a logical grounding for your own worldview that is internally and externally coherent (as the Christian worldview is) then I'll take you seriously...if all you bring to the table are internet arguments like this...then there isn't a reason to do so.

I'd invite you to discuss the viability of your own worldview vs Christianity to see who's faith is blind.

email me at:

rpavich (at) gmail (dot) com.

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Nov 26, 2013 08:55:00   #
Grand Loc: Lebanon, Pa
 
Bangee5 wrote:
The same source that everyone goes to does not say anything about there being a Mother of God except in the sense that Mary who is the mother of Jesus who is God. But Mary is the Mother of a physical man, not a spiritual God. Jesus himself said that he is the first and the last, meaning that he is God. I think that only Catholics worship, to an extent, Mary. Protestants do not.

So, no. God does not have a mother and Jesus did not have a wife.


God's plan is for all of us to have a family. So God must set the example, He has a wife. Jesus has a wife. Remember, God's plan. They both have parents.

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Nov 26, 2013 09:02:04   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Grand wrote:
God's plan is for all of us to have a family. So God must set the example, He has a wife. Jesus has a wife. Remember, God's plan. They both have parents.


God says, "Do as I say, not as I do."

And where do you suppose this 'God Family' lives? Is there a Grand-Mother God and a Grand-father God as well?

Me thinks you been watching too much History Channel's Bible Secrets Revealed!

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Nov 26, 2013 09:14:12   #
OviedoPhotos
 
God does not have a Mom.

I have not seen the show but I think a feminist invented that theory. Sad that such rubbish exists.

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Nov 26, 2013 09:40:35   #
crissx09 Loc: FL-USA
 
I see you guys discussing interpretations about almost anything you can find in the bible. I do not know if all we agree that the bible was written by men. No extra power dictates what it is in the book but...my point is: Does religion unite people or divide them? Personally my belief is that religion in general is the place in which we can find better reasons to control the primitive instinct we all carry deep inside ( some carry them not very deep )and that is the reason religion is necessary. Many do not need religion and do not need a god to have moral, righteous lives and that is something that many ultra religious should understand and accept.

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Nov 26, 2013 09:53:57   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
crissx09 wrote:
I see you guys discussing interpretations about almost anything you can find in the bible. I do not know if all we agree that the bible was written by men. No extra power dictates what it is in the book but...my point is: Does religion unite people or divide them? Personally my belief is that religion in general is the place in which we can find better reasons to control the primitive instinct we all carry deep inside ( some carry them not very deep )and that is the reason religion is necessary. Many do not need religion and do not need a god to have moral, righteous lives and that is something that many ultra religious should understand and accept.
I see you guys discussing interpretations about al... (show quote)


The only thing religion does is ameliorate the fear of death. By promising an afterlife, it brings hope that things will be "better" in heaven.

The "primitive instinct" was reigned in by the social contract. Rousseau had it right.

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Nov 26, 2013 09:57:06   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
Frank T wrote:
If man is made in his image, then wouldn't he have the form of a human?


No. We have the eternal form of His spirit.

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Nov 26, 2013 09:58:02   #
Shadowfax Loc: Florida
 
Don't any of you actually read the Bible? The Bible was written by Jewish people and so reflects their customs. If you read about the wedding in Cannan, which states that Jesus provided the wine, then going by Jewish tradition, it was always the BRIDEGROOM who provided the wine!! Say no more-nudge,nudge,wink, wink.

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Nov 26, 2013 10:03:28   #
oldgabby Loc: Middle Tennessee
 
ANCIENT ALLIENS. YEAH, THAT'S THE TICKET.

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Nov 26, 2013 10:04:37   #
jcave Loc: Cecilia, Kentucky
 
As an infrequent contributor I do enjoy the discourses here on UHH's Chit Chat. The more unprovable a topic, the greater the intensity of the arguments by some contributors. Why is this?

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Nov 26, 2013 10:06:07   #
Bobbee
 
rpavich wrote:
Not defensive, just like to protect the truth from unwarranted baseless accusations....that's all.


We are certain that the Bible is God's word, and therefore what it speaks is truth because of the impossibility of the contrary.

When you can give a logical grounding for your own worldview that is internally and externally coherent (as the Christian worldview is) then I'll take you seriously...if all you bring to the table are internet arguments like this...then there isn't a reason to do so.

I'd invite you to discuss the viability of your own worldview vs Christianity to see who's faith is blind.

email me at:

rpavich (at) gmail (dot) com.
Not defensive, just like to protect the truth from... (show quote)


Ok, Catholic boy here with 25+ year of religious upbringing. So that is where I come from.

"We are certain that the Bible is God's word".

It is, I do believe, one or a few men's interp. of what they believed at the time was God's word. Let's not mistake who wrote this book(s). I sort of like Ian's lyric from his Jethro Tull song. He sez it nice, he sez it plain and it has meaning.

".......So to my old headmaster (and to anyone who cares):
before I'm through I'd like to say my prayers --
I don't believe you:
you had the whole damn thing all wrong --
He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays........".

Relax, be good, help your fellow man, stop being so petty and for Christ sake, stop believing in other peoples rendition of religion. Started toooooo many wars, fights and UH threads. At the end of the day, without anyone's agreement, you have to review what you did for the day and ask "Was I a good person? If not, and you tried, adjust, and try again. That is all 'HE' asks.

And get this, coming from probably the most un-religious person typing here.

Take care!!!

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Nov 26, 2013 10:07:38   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm sure most of you guys have visited God and spoken to him personally but discounting other theories is just close minded.
Although I wouldn't use the word wife, it was believed by the Pagans that there was a male and a female god and that they ruled the earth. The female was dominant in the Spring and Summer and the male counterpart in the Fall and Winter.
As many of the Christian beliefs are traceable to their Pagan roots, I wouldn't be too quick to discount everything.
Christmas which we celebrate on December 25, was originally the Winter Solstice and the burning of the Yule Log was part of that celebration along with what we know now as the Christmas Tree.
So tell me, what makes you guys so certain or for that matter so defensive about having a female deity?
I'm sure most of you guys have visited God and spo... (show quote)


Stirring up a hornet's nest, aren't you? GO FOR IT! :mrgreen: 99% of the Bible stories are based on very ancient, ancient stories, which may or may not have some truth in them. Most ancient religions worshiped the female aspect of God. Male dominance came with the Jews and has been the norm ever since. And women have been paying for it ever since.

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Nov 26, 2013 10:15:44   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
crissx09 wrote:
I see you guys discussing interpretations about almost anything you can find in the bible. I do not know if all we agree that the bible was written by men. No extra power dictates what it is in the book but...my point is: Does religion unite people or divide them? Personally my belief is that religion in general is the place in which we can find better reasons to control the primitive instinct we all carry deep inside ( some carry them not very deep )and that is the reason religion is necessary. Many do not need religion and do not need a god to have moral, righteous lives and that is something that many ultra religious should understand and accept.
I see you guys discussing interpretations about al... (show quote)


It is very understandable that man does not need God to have moral, righteous lives. After all, man is created in the image of God so it is to be expected. Man is born Godly but his corrupt nature makes him Godless.

The first thing that a baby learns is the concept of "my toy"! He wants what is not his and does not want to share what is his. A lot of people never grow up.

Yes, the bible was written by man but is inspired by God. Why is this concept so hard to understand by those that believe that since the bible is written by man that it is corrupt, just as man is? There are many translations, true but each translation is true to the original. I have three different versions of the bible on my computer and all three say the same in meaning if not in words used.

Sure religion unites those who believe but divides those who don't. The bible itself says that the word of God will divide father from son, mother from daughter because there are those who refuse to accept and will attack those who do. You can find proof of that on this forum where religion (and politics) is the topic.

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