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Nov 26, 2013 00:40:40   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
imagemeister wrote:
24mm is not wide enough on crop frame - you will have to be a L-O-N-G ways away to get 15 people in the frame unless you have stairs for the people or a high viewpoint for the camera. The Canon 15-85 is a much better lens for crop frame than 24-105.....


Yes I was thinking 24 might be a bit long, I have (and love) a 24-105 2.8 but you might find some places a bit cramped and the 15-85 would be better in a tight space. Indoors especially Even the basic 18-55 shouldn't be overlooked.

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Nov 26, 2013 00:45:38   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
Bob Yankle wrote:
Group shot, no flash (but only because I left it in the trunk of the car, drat!), 16mm, 1/50 sec, f/3.5, ISO 1600. Best viewed in download mode as brochure mode casts a greenish hue to the photo. This was shot with a Canon 5D MK III, so the T3i would have cropped this considerably.+


Thanks so much for this shot. 46 people? If you look at my most recent post you will see why I took note. The 16 does show the effect of wide angle at the outside doesn't it. I see you used a full frame camera, your closing comment makes sense knowing that. Supports the arguments put up for wider than the 24mm (esp on cropped)

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Nov 26, 2013 01:17:43   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
dadcowell wrote:
My kids, their spouses, my grandkids, my wife and I are all going on a Disney cruise. I have warned them that I'll be taking lots of pictures. I'm particularly interested in a picture of the 15 of us in that central area that all cruise ships seem to have. You know: the area with the chandelier and the staircase.

Any way, I have the Canon T3i and the Canon speedlite 423ex flash, and the Canon EF 24-105 L lens.

I'm always looking for an excuse to get new equipment.
Should I stick with my 24-105 or would an investment in the Canon 50mm 1.4 prime yield a better result?
My kids, their spouses, my grandkids, my wife and ... (show quote)


8-) 8-) 8-) Your EF 24-105 will fill most of your needs. Extra gear equates to extra care. which you can spend on the kids instead. Remember, the photographer is rarely in the picture. Be part of the group, and have a great time! :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Nov 26, 2013 01:21:17   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
St3v3M wrote:
I love my 50 f/1.4 and would normally recommend it, but you will have to step back aways to get everyone in. My recommendation then, if you can only bring one, is to use your 24-105 L lens. If you are looking at something to shoot in low light without flash though you are back the to 50! Cheers.


8-) 8-) 8-) "low light"? I thought if you were in low light on a ship you were someplace you were not supposed to be. And you want to take pictures? Now those, you gotta post! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Nov 26, 2013 01:25:41   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
davidrb wrote:
8-) 8-) 8-) "low light"? I thought if you were in low light on a ship you were someplace you were not supposed to be. And you want to take pictures? Now those, you gotta post! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Laf!

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Nov 26, 2013 01:42:04   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Bob Yankle wrote:
It turns out that Sigma makes a 10-20mm also, for about $429.00, new. I agree, with the 1.6 crop factor, you'd be getting the same shots as the 16-35mm on a full framed camera, and that's a right-healthy wide angle.


I am always cautious about non-OEM lenses, there has to be a really good reason to go with that. Significant price differences can be a deciding factor, and each person has to decide what "significant" means. But if you end up with image quality you don't like, you won't use the lens, and the whole amount was wasted.

Tokina makes an excellent wide-angle crop-sensor (EF-S or DX) lens, as good as or better than the Nikon option, but not really better than the Canon option. I did not know about the Sigma lens, so I'd have to see some strong reviews to prefer it over the Canon lens.

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Nov 26, 2013 05:52:18   #
lone ranger Loc: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
 
absolutley, for a group that large, your 105, although, it is a portriat lens, its not a wide angle lens.therefore, you will have to make a decision, on a good, and fast, wide angle lens, something in the 2.8 range, for excellent results...........bon voyage, have a great time

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Nov 26, 2013 07:04:30   #
georgeretired Loc: Manitoba Canada
 
charles brown wrote:
Stick with the zoom. Will work just fine. Keep in mind one thing, need to ask non family member to take that photo. Otherwise some member of the family will be missing from the picture. Have pages and pages of family photos with me missing. Granddaughter once asked why I never went on the trips with rest of the family.


Isn't that the truth. Did my own 50th Wedding Ann pictures and if it wasn't for an accommodating serving person who offered to click the shutter for me with my camera on a tripod, I would have been the missing "relative". As it was and after it was all over, there was NO picture of my wife and myself. I shoot with a canon D50 and used a canon 24-70 lens.

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Nov 26, 2013 07:08:18   #
lone ranger Loc: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
 
your lens incorporates a good wide angle advantage,

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Nov 26, 2013 07:34:02   #
djtravels Loc: Georgia boy now
 
You will be able to use stairs for the area you want. You might also consider on deck areas where you can be higher than your group set. And all will work with your remote, just need a good tripod. Add weight to it? There are a ton of areas for you to work with. Need to figure out the best time, so you have the area to yourself. Have a great trip.

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Nov 26, 2013 07:41:48   #
Flipper2012 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
Mormorazzi wrote:
I took this with a 24-85 this summer and had room to spare. If you go too wide, you may get distortion.


very nice

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Nov 26, 2013 07:43:05   #
Flipper2012 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
very nice
Bob Yankle wrote:
Group shot, no flash (but only because I left it in the trunk of the car, drat!), 16mm, 1/50 sec, f/3.5, ISO 1600. Best viewed in download mode as brochure mode casts a greenish hue to the photo. This was shot with a Canon 5D MK III, so the T3i would have cropped this considerably.+

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Nov 26, 2013 08:21:53   #
Buckeye Loc: Dayton, OH.
 
You might also consider the Canon AF-s 10-22. On a crop frame camera it will give you the angle of view of the 16-35 on a full frame body.

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Nov 26, 2013 08:24:35   #
Sunwriter Loc: High Plains
 
NIce group shots!

Don't forget that with a stairway to work with you might consider the oft-overlooked vertical orientation. And if you have some darker faces due to uneven light they can always be adjusted in PSE. Good luck!

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Nov 26, 2013 09:52:42   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
davidrb wrote:
8-) 8-) 8-) Your EF 24-105 will fill most of your needs. Extra gear equates to extra care. which you can spend on the kids instead. Remember, the photographer is rarely in the picture. Be part of the group, and have a great time! :XD: :XD: :XD:


Why is the photographer not in the shot? The t3i has a 10 sec built in timer. Even if you don't have a tripod a table or some such will get the job done.

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