birdseyeview wrote:
My brother and I were at a show this weekend selling out photos. We had several in frames hanging in our display
when a well to do woman and her mother walk up to look and the woman takes out her cell phone and takes shots of three photos! When we asked her if we could help she says Oh I just like the frames I think they are lovely....
Then she walks away without the decency to even ask for out business card or our names! the shots were full pic and frame. Do any of you think this is theft or just an attempt
to steal my ideas on my frames so she can have some one else make the frames for her? Personally I did not like what she did. Am I wrong or should I have confronted her about it? Thanks for your thoughts
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Welcome to the human race. "Why should we pay this guy for pictures? I can photograph them with my cell phone and make all the copies I want." Of course the quality of such a reproduction would be pretty bad. Try working retail for a few days, and you'll see what people are really like.
You're thinking about it too much. Although you may capture wonderful photos, have a thriving sales business, etc., you are not so special that anyone is tracking down your work and "stealing" it. An annoyance possibly, but something to get excited about, don't waste your time. You will never eliminate all the d*#ks in the world.
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
Maybe you could run a little banner across a corner of each photo with further information - maybe your web address. This would make it a little less likely that someone would/could actually reproduce your photos, and would provide further information. That and a "Please, no photographs" sign might do the trick.
From the lady's comment, it seems she was perhaps more interested in the frames. Maybe she wanted to photograph them in case she ran across them somewhere. Of course, if you had the frames made, she is out of luck.
amyinsparta wrote:
From the lady's comment, it seems she was perhaps more interested in the frames. Maybe she wanted to photograph them in case she ran across them somewhere. Of course, if you had the frames made, she is out of luck.
I make all my own frames for my pictures.
I own my own cabinet shop and have over 30 years experience dealing with people. 99% of my business is word of mouth and repeat customers! I know how to make them happy...
I am new to selling photos so this is why I was just curious about this situation but thanks for your thoughts.
joer wrote:
I wouldn't think much of it. Its a cell phone for crying out loud.
Don't ever underestimate a cell phone camera. if you do your making a terrible mistake.
birdseyeview wrote:
My brother and I were at a show this weekend selling out photos. We had several in frames hanging in our display
when a well to do woman and her mother walk up to look and the woman takes out her cell phone and takes shots of three photos! When we asked her if we could help she says Oh I just like the frames I think they are lovely....
Then she walks away without the decency to even ask for out business card or our names! the shots were full pic and frame. Do any of you think this is theft or just an attempt
to steal my ideas on my frames so she can have some one else make the frames for her? Personally I did not like what she did. Am I wrong or should I have confronted her about it? Thanks for your thoughts
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I have no idea what people do with the many images they capture with their cell phones, and I don't really care. I display my work at art shows, and often encounter those who wish to photograph my photographs. Some ask and some don't. Never has bothered me. They'll not capture the quality of the original, so I don't consider it "stealing." Other artists, however, have told me they object to photography because they want to protect their ideas. Some validity there, particularly in the craft categories.
I can understand how you feel, knowing myself with working in picture framing a long time ago, so if she was possibly interesting in the mouldings for later framing something she would want to remember what the mouldings looked like to then show the people at whatever store she would be going to. To be taking a lot of pictures at a show like that though really is not nice, esp. if not asking you first.
A simple sting with a small price tag hanging over the photo will ruin any phone shots. If someone is interested in a photo the price tag with string could be removed for better inspection.I don't think anyone would want to steal a photo with a price tag hanging in front of it. Even if it's only a 1/2 in square the photo would be prevented if the tag is hanging right in the middle
ozdude
Loc: Brisbane Australia
Hey if you guys want to take a shot of me in the street without my permission whats the problem. Isn't it your right? Oh maybe this is different. Just saying LOL
birdseyeview wrote:
My brother and I were at a show this weekend selling out photos. We had several in frames hanging in our display
when a well to do woman and her mother walk up to look and the woman takes out her cell phone and takes shots of three photos! When we asked her if we could help she says Oh I just like the frames I think they are lovely....
Then she walks away without the decency to even ask for out business card or our names! the shots were full pic and frame. Do any of you think this is theft or just an attempt
to steal my ideas on my frames so she can have some one else make the frames for her? Personally I did not like what she did. Am I wrong or should I have confronted her about it? Thanks for your thoughts
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Every vendor at these events have the same problem you do with this issue. People are crude and crass to take pictures of anyone's art work, even those artists with pottery, sculpture, woodwork, jewelry, etc. Stealing ideas for artwork is not new and a vulgar practice, simply because it is done with such an air of entitlement.
I would check the policy with the people who jury or manage the events and see what they have in place about people taking pictures.
Otherwise, posting a sign is probably a good idea.
Cell phone or not, it's the first step leading to copyright theft.
Several years ago a man came into my booth with a nice camera and before I knew it he filled his camera screen with my photograph perfectly. He even removed the frame. I put my hand in front of his lens and asked him to leave my booth. When leaving, I asked him what he would do with the images. His response:
"I just want to take them home and make prints for my walls."
He quickly disappeared from the park.
The sign for "No Photographs, Please" - works .. However, some (Not All) "well-to-do" people 'steal' and do things that are Out Right Rude all the time. Do they think about it? NO I do not believe that these people ever think of anything but themselves. I have posed my self alongside my work on display at galleries and shows. And I do not object to the use of a cell phone - as I think that there will be No Print made from this.
So -- Make a sign - at least You are the one who thinks :-)
ginnykuhn1 wrote:
... He even removed the frame. I put my hand in front of his lens and asked him to leave my booth.
Your mistake was not wetting your thumb and putting it on his lens!!!
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